RE: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-07-06 Thread N. Glen Dickey
Wim and all, Wim wrote: Do I understand rightly (from your 2/7 9:48 -0700 post to Marco) that your real libertarianism implies that the US should not deploy its army outside its own borders at all and that a really libertarian population would boycott US arms manufacturers when they export

RE: MD Emotions revisited.

2001-07-06 Thread Stephen Devlin
But language/imagination isn't Quality's Intellect, we may safely assume that cave-dwellers spoke as complex (grammatically) a language as ourselves,... I don't think thats a safe assumption really, what are you basing that assumption on? One experiment i have read about that is

Re: MD Pirsig's hypocrisy/vegetarianism

2001-07-06 Thread Elizaphanian
Hi Wim, You wrote: I do thrive on vegetarian food for 25 years now. (I confess I eat meat maybe once a year when food isn't easily recognisable or properly labelled as 'carnivores only'.) My reason for renouncing meat is not that it would be immoral for me to be instrumental in killing lower

Re: MD Emotions revisited.

2001-07-06 Thread Elizaphanian
Greetings, This is by way of an aside on the Emotions question, as I must confess to not having had a proper chance to digest everything that has been said so far in this thread, but I feel the following might be of interest (it comes from an essay I wrote a couple of years back): Antonio

Re: MD Emotions revisited.

2001-07-06 Thread SQUONKSTAIL
Hello Sam and all, I enjoyed the extract from your essay. From the point of view of the MOQ, any decision is pure quality. A decision is the outcome of DQ interrupting Static patterns, so analysing the where and whys before/after the event is going to lead to confusion? The mind/body split is

Re: Accepting reality (Re: MD Pirsig's hypocrisy)

2001-07-06 Thread Platt Holden
Hi Jonathan: But in the end, Pirsig was glad to get rid of Lila: Too true. Many moons ago, I stirred things up by suggesting that in the end, Phaedrus was the posing moralist, slinking off and leaving the real job of caring for Lila to Richard Rigel. The elements of hypocrisy that come

Re: MD Pirsig's hypocrisy

2001-07-06 Thread Platt Holden
Hi Wim Nusselder: Your wrote: I'd say: suffering from the limitations of lower levels' static patterns of value is the negative fact of Quality. DQ is the drive to eliminate that suffering, the drive behind evolution. Doesn't really contradict Pirsig, does it? Suffering as I interpret the