[MORPHMET] Re: physignal in geomorph

2015-06-15 Thread Anneke van Heteren
Dear all

Thank you very much to those who have replied to my question. It turned out 
that my data was a 2D matrix instead of a 3D array and that that was 
causing the problem.

Best wishes,

Anneke

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 1:41:55 PM UTC+2, Anneke van Heteren wrote:

 Dear friends and colleagues

  

 I am trying to run physignal in geomorph (R), but I am running into a 
 problem I do not understand. Here is the code I am using and the error 
 message: 

  physignal(ursid_phyl, Regr_res_av, iter=99)

 Error in match.names(clabs, names(xi)) : 

   names do not match previous names

  

 However:

  name.check(ursid_phyl,Regr_res_av)

 [1] OK

  

 But:

  match(ursid_phyl,Regr_res_av)

 [1] NA NA NA NA

  match(Regr_res_av,ursid_phyl)

  [1] NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

 [24] NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

  

 This suggested to me that physignal might need the columns to carry the 
 same names rather than the rows (as my phylogeny is list of 4 and I have 15 
 landmarks=45 variables), but when I transposed my data, I get a different 
 error message:

  trans_regr_res_av -t(Regr_res_av)

  physignal(ursid_phyl, trans_regr_res_av, iter=99)

 Error in physignal(ursid_phyl, trans_regr_res_av, iter = 99) : 

   Number of taxa in data matrix and tree are not not equal.

  

 I do not know what I could try next to calculate physignal. Any help would 
 be appreciated. This is the phylogeny that I am using:



 (Ame:21.8,(Tor:14.5,((Uam:5.7,(Uth:3.3,(Usp:1.2,(Uma:1.0,Uar:1.0):0.2):2.1):2.4):0.0,(Hma:1.0,Mur:1.0):4.7):8.8):7.3);


 Thanks in advance. 

  

 Best wishes,

  

 Anneke van Heteren

  




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[MORPHMET] Landmark Editor -- MorphoJ problem

2015-06-15 Thread a.l.schulz
Hello All,

I need to ask a rather silly question for which I imagine there is a simple 
solution ... but I just can't figure it out. I've created a landmark file 
in IDAV Landmark Editor and exported an NTSYSpc (.dta) file for it. I then 
tried to upload that into MorphoJ, but to no avail. I keep getting the 
message There appear to be too many row labels in the file. I then tried 
to create the same dataset using text files exported from Landmark Editor 
but got roughly the same message. I have opened the files and looked at 
them and as far as I can tell there is nothing wrong.

Has anyone else encountered and overcome this issue? For the time being I 
am stumped.

Best,
Ari

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Re: [MORPHMET] Re: physignal in geomorph

2015-06-15 Thread Emma Sherratt
Anneke,

I'm gad you've managed to solve your issue but I need to say that making
your data a 3D array shouldn't be the fix.

 library(geomorph)
Loading required package: rgl
 data(plethspecies)
 Y.gpa-gpagen(plethspecies$land)#GPA-alignment

 #Test for phylogenetic signal in shape using data in a 3D array
 physignal(plethspecies$phy, Y.gpa$coords, method=Kmult,iter=99)
$phy.signal
  [,1]
[1,] 0.9572538

$pvalue
 [,1]
[1,] 0.04

 #Test for phylogenetic signal in shape using data in a 2D matrix
 physignal(plethspecies$phy, two.d.array(Y.gpa$coords),
method=Kmult,iter=99)
$phy.signal
  [,1]
[1,] 0.9572538

$pvalue
 [,1]
[1,] 0.02

So there must have been something wrong with your 2D matrix to not work
previously. Check that it is numeric, check that the rownames were assigned
properly, and that it contained only the data you wanted to input.

FYI, in geomorph, we use the 3D array format to specify that the data are
coordinate data, and the 2D matrix for multivariate data, not necessarily
shape data. This allows several of the functions to be used with non-shape,
multivariate datasets.

Emma

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Lecturer in Zoology,
Zoology Division, School of Environmental and Rural Science,
Room L112 Bldg C02,
University of New England,
Armidale, NSW, Australia, 2351
Tel: +61 2 6773 5041
email: emma.sherr...@une.edu.au
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 \\_//^\\_//^\\_//
  ``   ``   ``*

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On 15 June 2015 at 20:24, Anneke van Heteren a.h.vanhete...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear all

 Thank you very much to those who have replied to my question. It turned
 out that my data was a 2D matrix instead of a 3D array and that that was
 causing the problem.

 Best wishes,

 Anneke


 On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 1:41:55 PM UTC+2, Anneke van Heteren wrote:

 Dear friends and colleagues



 I am trying to run physignal in geomorph (R), but I am running into a
 problem I do not understand. Here is the code I am using and the error
 message:

  physignal(ursid_phyl, Regr_res_av, iter=99)

 Error in match.names(clabs, names(xi)) :

   names do not match previous names



 However:

  name.check(ursid_phyl,Regr_res_av)

 [1] OK



 But:

  match(ursid_phyl,Regr_res_av)

 [1] NA NA NA NA

  match(Regr_res_av,ursid_phyl)

  [1] NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

 [24] NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA



 This suggested to me that physignal might need the columns to carry the
 same names rather than the rows (as my phylogeny is list of 4 and I have 15
 landmarks=45 variables), but when I transposed my data, I get a different
 error message:

  trans_regr_res_av -t(Regr_res_av)

  physignal(ursid_phyl, trans_regr_res_av, iter=99)

 Error in physignal(ursid_phyl, trans_regr_res_av, iter = 99) :

   Number of taxa in data matrix and tree are not not equal.



 I do not know what I could try next to calculate physignal. Any help
 would be appreciated. This is the phylogeny that I am using:



 (Ame:21.8,(Tor:14.5,((Uam:5.7,(Uth:3.3,(Usp:1.2,(Uma:1.0,Uar:1.0):0.2):2.1):2.4):0.0,(Hma:1.0,Mur:1.0):4.7):8.8):7.3);


 Thanks in advance.



 Best wishes,



 Anneke van Heteren




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[MORPHMET] Using ImageJ for digitizing on Mac OS X

2015-06-15 Thread Edouard Masson-MacLean
Hello,

Is there a guide for the complete beginner on how to use ImageJ instead of 
tpsdig, especially on how to set the scale before digitizing?

Many thanks

Edouard


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Re: [MORPHMET] Landmark Editor -- MorphoJ problem

2015-06-15 Thread Emma Sherratt
Ari,

This issue is probably due to having spaces in the names of your specimens.
Find and replace with _ then try again

Emma


On Monday, June 15, 2015, a.l.schulz ariadne.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All,

 I need to ask a rather silly question for which I imagine there is a
 simple solution ... but I just can't figure it out. I've created a landmark
 file in IDAV Landmark Editor and exported an NTSYSpc (.dta) file for it. I
 then tried to upload that into MorphoJ, but to no avail. I keep getting the
 message There appear to be too many row labels in the file. I then tried
 to create the same dataset using text files exported from Landmark Editor
 but got roughly the same message. I have opened the files and looked at
 them and as far as I can tell there is nothing wrong.

 Has anyone else encountered and overcome this issue? For the time being I
 am stumped.

 Best,
 Ari

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Lecturer in Zoology,
Zoology Division, School of Environmental and Rural Science,
Room L112 Bldg C02,
University of New England,
Armidale, NSW, Australia, 2351
Tel: +61 2 6773 5041
email: emma.sherr...@une.edu.au
Twitter: @DrEmSherratt

Caecilians are legless amphibians...

*  __
(\   .-.   .-.   /_)
 \\_//^\\_//^\\_//
  ``   ``   ``*

learn more about them here: www.emmasherratt.com/caecilians

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Re: [MORPHMET] Using ImageJ for digitizing on Mac OS X

2015-06-15 Thread Vincent Bonhomme
hi there,

Analyze  Set Scale...

+
http://microscopy.berkeley.edu/courses/dib/sections/04IPIII/IJsetscale.html

hth
best,

v

2015-06-15 14:59 GMT+02:00 Edouard Masson-MacLean e.massonmacl...@gmail.com
:

 Hello,

 Is there a guide for the complete beginner on how to use ImageJ instead of
 tpsdig, especially on how to set the scale before digitizing?

 Many thanks

 Edouard


 -
 Edouard Masson-MacLean
 PhD Candidate
 Room 119
 Department of Archaeology
 School of Geosciences
 University of Aberdeen
 St. Mary's, Elphinstone Road
 Aberdeen, AB24 3UF
 Scotland, UK

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[MORPHMET] Re: Using ImageJ for digitizing on Mac OS X

2015-06-15 Thread Emma Sherratt
Dear Edouard,

You can find a comprehensive guide by David Polly 
here: http://www.indiana.edu/~g562/Handouts/Collecting%20Landmarks.pdf

And a few tips on digitizing 2D data can be found 
here: 
http://www.emmasherratt.com/morphometrics/-goal-gathering-two-dimensional-landmark-coordinates-to-describe-the-shape-of-my-favourite-structure

Best,

Emma

On Tuesday, 16 June 2015 03:26:05 UTC+10, Edouard Masson-MacLean wrote:

 Hello,

 Is there a guide for the complete beginner on how to use ImageJ instead of 
 tpsdig, especially on how to set the scale before digitizing?

 Many thanks

 Edouard


 -
 Edouard Masson-MacLean
 PhD Candidate
 Room 119
 Department of Archaeology
 School of Geosciences
 University of Aberdeen
 St. Mary's, Elphinstone Road
 Aberdeen, AB24 3UF
 Scotland, UK


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Re: [MORPHMET] Re: Using ImageJ for digitizing on Mac OS X

2015-06-15 Thread Edouard Masson-MacLean
Dear Emma

Many thanks for your help that’s very useful

Best

Edouard

Le 15 juin 2015 à 22:56, Emma Sherratt emma.sherr...@gmail.com a écrit :

Dear Edouard,

You can find a comprehensive guide by David Polly here: 
http://www.indiana.edu/~g562/Handouts/Collecting%20Landmarks.pdf

And a few tips on digitizing 2D data can be found here: 
http://www.emmasherratt.com/morphometrics/-goal-gathering-two-dimensional-landmark-coordinates-to-describe-the-shape-of-my-favourite-structure

Best,

Emma

On Tuesday, 16 June 2015 03:26:05 UTC+10, Edouard Masson-MacLean wrote:
Hello,

Is there a guide for the complete beginner on how to use ImageJ instead of 
tpsdig, especially on how to set the scale before digitizing?

Many thanks

Edouard


-
Edouard Masson-MacLean
PhD Candidate
Room 119
Department of Archaeology
School of Geosciences
University of Aberdeen
St. Mary's, Elphinstone Road
Aberdeen, AB24 3UF
Scotland, UK

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Re: [MORPHMET] Using ImageJ for digitizing on Mac OS X

2015-06-15 Thread Edouard Masson-MacLean
Great thanks Vincent!

Edouard

Le 15 juin 2015 à 21:41, Vincent Bonhomme bonhomme.vinc...@gmail.com a écrit :

hi there,

Analyze  Set Scale...

+ http://microscopy.berkeley.edu/courses/dib/sections/04IPIII/IJsetscale.html 
http://microscopy.berkeley.edu/courses/dib/sections/04IPIII/IJsetscale.html

hth
best,

v

2015-06-15 14:59 GMT+02:00 Edouard Masson-MacLean e.massonmacl...@gmail.com 
mailto:e.massonmacl...@gmail.com:
Hello,

Is there a guide for the complete beginner on how to use ImageJ instead of 
tpsdig, especially on how to set the scale before digitizing?

Many thanks

Edouard


-
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PhD Candidate
Room 119
Department of Archaeology
School of Geosciences
University of Aberdeen
St. Mary's, Elphinstone Road
Aberdeen, AB24 3UF
Scotland, UK

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Re: [MORPHMET] Re: Using ImageJ for digitizing on Mac OS X

2015-06-15 Thread Mauro Cavalcanti
Dear Emma,

Thanks, very helpful indeed.

Best regards,

2015-06-15 18:56 GMT-03:00 Emma Sherratt emma.sherr...@gmail.com:

 Dear Edouard,

 You can find a comprehensive guide by David Polly here:
 http://www.indiana.edu/~g562/Handouts/Collecting%20Landmarks.pdf

 And a few tips on digitizing 2D data can be found here:
 http://www.emmasherratt.com/morphometrics/-goal-gathering-two-dimensional-landmark-coordinates-to-describe-the-shape-of-my-favourite-structure

 Best,

 Emma

 On Tuesday, 16 June 2015 03:26:05 UTC+10, Edouard Masson-MacLean wrote:

 Hello,

 Is there a guide for the complete beginner on how to use ImageJ instead
 of tpsdig, especially on how to set the scale before digitizing?

 Many thanks

 Edouard


 -
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 PhD Candidate
 Room 119
 Department of Archaeology
 School of Geosciences
 University of Aberdeen
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 Aberdeen, AB24 3UF
 Scotland, UK

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