Re: Re[3]: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-04 Thread Jose Mejuto
At 17:13 03/02/00 -0600, you wrote: oh one stupid suggestion for the stand alone executable : it could be a good idea to allow "| more" or "/page" or " file.asc" to see the command help, now it "goes away" without seein the beginning of it Yes, that would be very useful, especially for

Re: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-03 Thread Cavallo de Cavallis
Exactly! That's the first really sensible thing I've heard on this subject. If quality improves dramaticly, it should not be activated with a -quality 10 or actually, a -quality 0, but the better quality should be provided using the same 'use best quality' setting from previous versions,

Re: Re[3]: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-03 Thread Greg Maxwell
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Joerg Hevers wrote: Hello, oh one stupid suggestion for the stand alone executable : it could be a good idea to allow "| more" or "/page" or " file.asc" to see the command help, now it "goes away" without seein the beginning of it Yes, that would be very useful,

Re: Re[3]: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:48:15 -0500 (EST), Greg Maxwell wrote: On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Joerg Hevers wrote: Hello, oh one stupid suggestion for the stand alone executable : it could be a good idea to allow "| more" or "/page" or " file.asc" to see the command help, now it "goes away" without

Re: Re[3]: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-03 Thread Mathew Hendry
From: "Greg Maxwell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can windows users redirect stderr like us poor saps stuck using Free Software? 9x users can't. NT users can; and the NT console has scrollback anyway. I'm currently running a triple boot system (Linux, Win98, Win2k). I might be tempted to switch to

Re: Re[3]: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:39:10 -, Mathew Hendry wrote: BTW, the Linux distribution I have (Mandrake 6.x) uses pgcc (a Pentium-specific branch of gcc) as its default compiler. Gives a noticable speed improvement for LAME, and I haven't noticed any glitches with it. Since pgcc was apparently used

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-02 Thread Ross Levis
Don Melton wrote: --qual low equivalent to highq=9 --qual normal " " " 5 --qual high " " " 2 The idea to create secondary options may be a good way to avoid confusion. LAME is starting to take off as a quality encoder so the user

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-02 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Jeremy Hall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I disagree. From a functional standpoint, changing an option to cause it to do the exact opposite of what it once did is confusing at best, and disrupts expected behavior. People upgrading from one release to another will find that their "great"

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-02 Thread Greg Maxwell
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Jeremy Hall wrote: I have no problems with adding new options, but changing existing options is a bit rough. Hmm.. I was still in the VBR is beta mindset. This is unfortunate, as the current situation is not very intutive. -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list (

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-02 Thread Greg Maxwell
On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Robert Hegemann wrote: Greg Maxwell schrieb am Die, 01 Feb 2000: On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Jeremy Hall wrote: but then you're in conflict with VBR. VBR should be changed. It makes more sence for big numbers to denote bigger bitrate in VBR. Well, in my opinion -V

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-02 Thread Greg Maxwell
On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Robert Hegemann wrote: Well, in my opinion -V reflects the following behaviour: -V0: allow low amount of noise : -V4: allow mid amount of noise : -V9: allow large amount of noise That's it what VBR does, allocate as much noise as allowed to achieve the

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-02 Thread Felix von Leitner
Oops, I said that with gogo the VBR setting was higher - more quality. This is apparently wrong. The latest version uses a newer lame engine and thus has the same meaning for that switch as lame. Sorry! Felix -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )

Re: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-02 Thread Robert Hegemann
We orignally used V to set the number of bands allowed to be 'over'. When we changed that, we should have V. Why? Only to confuse users? And the idea of V hasn't changed. btw, what about a "-h x" setting with x in R? x = -inf : nothing but speed counts x = 0: best quality we can do now x

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-02 Thread Jeremy Hall
-H 0 : run as slow as possible -H 9 : run as fast as possible _J In the new year, Greg Maxwell wrote: On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Robert Hegemann wrote: Greg Maxwell schrieb am Die, 01 Feb 2000: On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Jeremy Hall wrote: but then you're in conflict with VBR. VBR

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-02 Thread Ross Levis
Jeremy Hall wrote: ok, and so that -H is consistent with -V, make it do likewise. But as Gabriel Bouvigne argued, you are limiting best quality to the lowest number available -- 0. What do you do if a better quality mode is created? Go negative? :) Ross. -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list (

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-01 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
As the voice of reason (as a user), why highq instead of quality? Seeing that 9 (low quality) contradicts the variable. I would suggest something before the 3.62 is out on the website: Using 0 as the lowest quality and 9 as the highest. This would allow some future extensions. If one day all

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-01 Thread Jeremy Hall
but then you're in conflict with VBR. _J In the new year, Gabriel Bouvigne wrote: As the voice of reason (as a user), why highq instead of quality? Seeing that 9 (low quality) contradicts the variable. I would suggest something before the 3.62 is out on the website: Using 0 as the

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-01 Thread Greg Maxwell
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Jeremy Hall wrote: but then you're in conflict with VBR. VBR should be changed. It makes more sence for big numbers to denote bigger bitrate in VBR. -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-01 Thread Ross Levis
: Wednesday, 2 February 2000 09:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Jeremy Hall wrote: but then you're in conflict with VBR. VBR should be changed. It makes more sence for big numbers to denote bigger bitrate in VBR. -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-01 Thread Robert Hegemann
Greg Maxwell schrieb am Die, 01 Feb 2000: On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Jeremy Hall wrote: but then you're in conflict with VBR. VBR should be changed. It makes more sence for big numbers to denote bigger bitrate in VBR. Well, in my opinion -V reflects the following behaviour: -V0:allow low

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-01 Thread Francois du Toit
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode I disagree. From a functional standpoint, changing an option to cause it to do the exact opposite of what it once did is confusing at best, and disrupts expected behavior. People upgrading from one

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-01 Thread Jeremy Hall
ok, and so that -H is consistent with -V, make it do likewise. _J In the new year, Robert Hegemann wrote: Greg Maxwell schrieb am Die, 01 Feb 2000: On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Jeremy Hall wrote: but then you're in conflict with VBR. VBR should be changed. It makes more sence for big

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-02-01 Thread Christopher Wise
On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Robert Hegemann wrote: Well, in my opinion -V reflects the following behaviour: -V0: allow low amount of noise : -V4: allow mid amount of noise : -V9: allow large amount of noise That's it what VBR does, allocate as much noise as allowed to achieve the

[MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-01-30 Thread Mark Taylor
I cleaned up the highq mode, and implemented what was suggesting in the mailing list last week. The variable highq is now used to set verious internal options. Valid ranges are 0(high quality) ... 9(low quality), but only 3 values are really working right now, which coorespond do the -f,

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-01-30 Thread Jeff Lightfoot
Mark Taylor wrote: The variable highq is now used to set verious internal options. Valid ranges are 0(high quality) ... 9(low quality), but only 3 values are really working right now, which coorespond do the -f, default and -h modes. As the voice of reason (as a user), why highq instead of

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] highq mode

2000-01-30 Thread Mark Taylor
Mark Taylor wrote: The variable highq is now used to set verious internal options. Valid ranges are 0(high quality) ... 9(low quality), but only 3 values are really working right now, which coorespond do the -f, default and -h modes. As the voice of reason (as a user), why highq