Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-03 Thread Jhpalmerjp
Okay. I admit it. It's me. I speak for White people. We had a Caucasian caucus on Confederate Memorial Day and I was elected emissary because of my genetics. In the future I will try and make broad ranging statements and try to be available when a comment needs to be made or questions answe

RE: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

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Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-03 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On Nov 3, 2003, at 7:51 PM, Peter T Schmitz wrote: Eric Oines writes: You are all missing the point. White people defining "Black leadership" is stupid, just as Black people defining "white leadership" is stupid. I think what Booker T is saying, if I may, is that this whole "Black leadership" t

Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-03 Thread Peter T Schmitz
Eric Oines writes: You are all missing the point. White people defining "Black leadership" is stupid, just as Black people defining "white leadership" is stupid. I think what Booker T is saying, if I may, is that this whole "Black leadership" thing ends up being a way to pidgeon-hole people of co

Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-03 Thread ken bradley
Hello Booker and Minneapolis Folks,   These are very complicated issues that bring strong emotions from many people. One person cannot speak for everyone, nor should they, but you can represent a group of people that have elected or appointed you to speak on behalf of them . We will also always ha

RE: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-03 Thread Pamela Taylor
Eric,   Congratulations.  I believe you understood my point.   I have never needed anyone, White, Black, or otherwise to lead me anywhere.  I can agree with, or disagree with, someone's point of view, or toss out my own.  It is just like Black History Month.  Somebody decided that celebrating once

RE: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-03 Thread Jason C Stone
I didn't hear white people defining black leadership. I heard *the media* defining black leadership, and then everybody falling in line responding to an over-simplified media portrayal. I think the question of leadership in the black community is quite a bit more complex, and that the 'squeak

RE: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-03 Thread Eric Oines
You are all missing the point. White people defining "Black leadership" is stupid, just as Black people defining "white leadership" is stupid. I think what Booker T is saying, if I may, is that this whole "Black leadership" thing ends up being a way to pidgeon-hole people of color and then dis

Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-02 Thread Andy Driscoll
Interesting that the reference to the Strib as The Rybak Times appears here when those who can remember back during the election, the Strib endorsed Sayles Belton over Rybak. But the matter begs the question that if the Black men mentioned here are not considered by enough of the African American

Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-02 Thread Pamela Taylor
Anne McCandless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the meantime, who does speak for the African American community? Itcan't be everyone or else we will never come to any accord. On the otherhand, it doesn't have to be just one person or group if (big IF) the peopleand groups are willing to work togethe

RE: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-02 Thread Michael Atherton
Anne McCandless wrote: > I am not sure that this question was first asked by Rybak, > the Strib or even white people in general. For many years, > it seems everyone just figured that Moss, Staten, Edwards > and McAfee spoke for the African American Community because > they were the only ones

Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-02 Thread Anne McCandless
I am not sure that this question was first asked by Rybak, the Strib or even white people in general. For many years, it seems everyone just figured that Moss, Staten, Edwards and McAfee spoke for the African American Community because they were the only ones who were speaking up loudly and freque

Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-02 Thread Neal Krasnoff
Jim Bernstein wrote: Okay, I'll take the bait! Surely though, I am not the only one who is curious to know: 1) What is "the plan" that Mr. Krasnoff refers to? 2) Who might this republican be? Let me put it another way: the social justice wing of Minneapolis politics will dig itself into thei

Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People? Who is "White"?

2003-11-02 Thread gemgram
While I have in the past been very much been in accord with some of Booker Hodges' posts (particularly those on abuse and discrimination), I am troubled by this last one about "White Leadership" for a couple of reasons. There really is NO white leadership that speaks for anyone. If anyone said he

RE: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-02 Thread Jim Bernstein
o repeat: what's the plan and whose the candidate(s)??? Jim Bernstein Fulton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Krasnoff Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People

Re: [Mpls] Who Speaks for White People?

2003-11-02 Thread Neal Krasnoff
Booker Hodges wrote: Booker T Investigates Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder Published 10-29-03 Who speaks for White people? Why don't you ask them? :-) Who is the leader of White people? Is it Robert Lilligren, Paul Ostrow, Tim Pawlenty, or R.T. Rybek? When these White people speak, are they spea