Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/7622#issuecomment-395513360 Was I boring enough ? ;-) Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

> > Sincerely, I do not remember when/why I did add those bug. Yes, after more concentration I did remember why. In the past, when using docked forms into main form, the focus of Object instector was loosed. But it was fixed (but did not know) in 2016. By the way, that Esc feature makes life

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Friday 08 June 2018 11:32:42 fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/7622#issuecomment-395513360 > > Aaaargh, indeed they are boring too. > I see they closed your report already. I do not plan to spend much time into fights with Mint people so if Mint

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Friday 08 June 2018 11:32:42 fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/7622#issuecomment-395513360 > > Aaaargh, indeed they are boring too. > I would provide the links to the gnome 3 bug reports I sent earlier:

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello Martin. https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/7622#issuecomment-395513360 Aaaargh, indeed they are boring too. They want that a template is filled, not sure how to fill it: ``` * Cinnamon version (cinnamon --version) * Distribution - (Mint 17.2, Arch, Fedora 25, etc...) *

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

And this: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=206=270731 ;-) Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello Martin. https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-panel/issues/815 Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On 06/07/2018 01:29 PM, fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > And reporting to Github issues ? > > https://github.com/linuxmint > > Maybe I can open one there ? > Ask the Mint people? ;-) There is a hint: " Please post suggestions for improvement of Cinnamon here

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello Martin. And reporting to Github issues ? https://github.com/linuxmint Maybe I can open one there ? Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ -- Check out the vibrant tech community on

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On 07.06.2018 08:54, fredvs wrote: It has been fixed in the mean time in Gnome 3: and should be fixed in Cinnamon and Mate too. Not sure to get it. Do you mean that the bug is fixed for Gnome 3, Cinnamon and Mate ? It means that it must be fixed in Cinnamon and Mate, If yes, it should be

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

> It has been fixed in the mean time in Gnome 3: > and should be fixed in Cinnamon and Mate too. Not sure to get it. Do you mean that the bug is fixed for Gnome 3, Cinnamon and Mate ? If yes, it should be fixed for Mint too because Mint uses Mate or Cinnamon. > I tried to submit Mint bug

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Wednesday 06 June 2018 15:39:14 fredvs wrote: > >Mint people did not react to my questions and bug reports so I gave up on > > Mint. Would you like to take over the task? > > Yes, of course. > What may I do '? > The last time I checked neither Cinnamon nor Mate did implement correct window

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

>Mint people did not react to my questions and bug reports so I gave up on > Mint. Would you like to take over the task? Yes, of course. What may I do '? (And they will see how boring I can be !). Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello Martin. > objectinspectorfo.activate; <<--! Wow you are really **too** strong. And I have to install a alarm on my pc, there are trolls that add buggy code when I am not there. Sincerely, I do not remember when/why I did add those bug. I am very

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Tuesday 05 June 2018 18:30:48 fredvs wrote: > > Works for me. Maybe there is another bug? > > Yes, I know that it works with MSEide. > > But what I do not understand is that using the same original > formdesigner.pas/objectinspector.pas and their dependencies works different > with ideU. > "

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

> Works for me. Maybe there is another bug? Yes, I know that it works with MSEide. But what I do not understand is that using the same original formdesigner.pas/objectinspector.pas and their dependencies works different with ideU. Fre;D -- Sent from:

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Tuesday 05 June 2018 18:03:29 fredvs wrote: > > It is that I have to add a line in original formdesigner.pas. > > In proc designkeyevent(), at line 3964, > ... > selectcomponent(comp1); > > activate; // this added > > Otherwise, it is the Object Inspector that is focused and pressing Esc has >

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello Martin. OK, I get it. msedesigner_esc.mp4 There is only one bemol. It is that I have to add a line in original formdesigner.pas. In proc designkeyevent(), at line 3964, ... selectcomponent(comp1);

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Tuesday 05 June 2018 15:13:18 fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > > Do you use the original MSEide? > > Aaaargh. > > Indeed, with original MSEide it works with left button. > > I have to check ideU code. > > Very, very, very sorry for the noise. > > (And if you are not too angry, maybe you

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Tuesday 05 June 2018 14:56:51 fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > > AFAIK Mint uses forks of Gnome2 and Gnome3 as window managers which have > > very bad quality. > > Yes, I know that Mint is not the best. > But, according to https://distrowatch.com, Mint is still the most popular > Linux distro.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello Martin. > Do you use the original MSEide? Aaaargh. Indeed, with original MSEide it works with left button. I have to check ideU code. Very, very, very sorry for the noise. (And if you are not too angry, maybe you could give light where is code for this). Once again: sorry. Fre;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

> Do you use the original MSEide? No, it is with ideU (but form-designer and all MSEgui-manager-things are the same as last MSEide commits). OK, I will test with last MSEide. Write you later. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

> Don't have your beloved JWM at hand? Only for FreeBSD. But ok, I will test it on FreeBSD asap. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello Martin. > AFAIK Mint uses forks of Gnome2 and Gnome3 as window managers which have > very bad quality. Yes, I know that Mint is not the best. But, according to https://distrowatch.com, Mint is still the most popular Linux distro. IMHO, you should install it and test/adapt MSEgui for it.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Tuesday 05 June 2018 14:49:00 fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > > Does your window manager "eat" Esc-keys? > > Huh, what is "eat" Esc keys ? > It maybe uses the Esc-key in order to trigger a window manager action or there is a bug so it is not delivered to the application. Do you use the

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello Martin. > Does your window manager "eat" Esc-keys? Huh, what is "eat" Esc keys ? > What if you use another window manager? Sorry, I do not have any other window manager installed (and no energy to install a other now). That said, using right-button + Esc key works like charm and for me,

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Tuesday 05 June 2018 14:27:43 fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > >Steps are: > > > >LeftClick "tchartleft". > >Press ESC-Key. > >Release ESC-Key. > >Press ESC-Key. > >Release ESC-Key. > >Press ESC-Key. > >Release ESC-Key. > > I am totally sorry but on my Linux Mint 64 it does not work. > >

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello Martin. >Steps are: >LeftClick "tchartleft". >Press ESC-Key. >Release ESC-Key. >Press ESC-Key. >Release ESC-Key. >Press ESC-Key. >Release ESC-Key. I am totally sorry but on my Linux Mint 64 it does not work. LeftClick "tchartleft". ---> OK, tchartleft selected. Press ESC-Key.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Monday 04 June 2018 22:56:09 fredvs wrote: > Hello. > > What I do: > > - Click on playleft (tgroupbox) ---> OK, playleft is selected. > - Press Esc, then maintaining Esc pressed, click again on playleft ---> OK, > spectrumgroup (tgroupbox) is selected. > - Still with Esc pressed (not released),

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Re-hello. Huh, in my system, it works if... you use the right-button click + Esc... OK, solved. (but strange that mix of button by system). Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ --

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello. What I do: - Click on playleft (tgroupbox) ---> OK, playleft is selected. - Press Esc, then maintaining Esc pressed, click again on playleft ---> OK, spectrumgroup (tgroupbox) is selected. - Still with Esc pressed (not released), click again on playleft > playleft is selected back

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Monday 04 June 2018 15:30:23 fredvs wrote: > Hello. > > > Please send a simple testcase if it does not work for you. > > msemem.zip > > > Click on tchartleft or tchartright, for me even with Esc, the mainfo can > not be

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello. > Please send a simple testcase if it does not work for you. msemem.zip Click on tchartleft or tchartright, for me even with Esc, the mainfo can not be accessed. Fre;D -- Sent from:

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Sunday 03 June 2018 14:39:29 fredvs wrote: > > That would be a bug. How to reproduce? > > 1) Create a new project. > 2) On the form, add a Tgroupbox with same size as the form. > 3) On that Tgroupbox add a other Tgroupbox with same size as the parent. > 4) Try to access the form with Esc +

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

> That would be a bug. How to reproduce? 1) Create a new project. 2) On the form, add a Tgroupbox with same size as the form. 3) On that Tgroupbox add a other Tgroupbox with same size as the parent. 4) Try to access the form with Esc + Clck... Fre;D -- Sent from:

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Sunday 03 June 2018 14:13:29 fredvs wrote: > > I think there should not be more controls if not absolutely necessary. > > Maybe. > > Did you note that Esc + Click works only for 1 parent ? > If that parent is child of a other parent, that root parent cannot be > accessible. > That would be a

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

> I think there should not be more controls if not absolutely necessary. Maybe. Did you note that Esc + Click works only for 1 parent ? If that parent is child of a other parent, that root parent cannot be accessible. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Friday 01 June 2018 11:47:09 fredvs wrote: > > Please press the Esc-key until the wanted parent widget is selected. > > ... Click + Esc... wow yes, indeed it works. > > (But I still believe that a icon is faster and easier). > > OK, I will try to do it myself (advices are welcome where to look

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

> Please press the Esc-key until the wanted parent widget is selected. ... Click + Esc... wow yes, indeed it works. (But I still believe that a icon is faster and easier). OK, I will try to do it myself (advices are welcome where to look in code). Fre;D -- Sent from:

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

On Friday 01 June 2018 00:22:25 fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > In MSEFormDesigner, when a form is covered, for example by a tdockpanel, > the Object inspector cannot be accessed via the form > designer-click-on-widget. > Please press the Esc-key until the wanted parent widget is selected.

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form accessible via form-designer ?

Hello Martin. In MSEFormDesigner, when a form is covered, for example by a tdockpanel, the Object inspector cannot be accessed via the form designer-click-on-widget. It must be done with the list in Object inspector. The same for each widget that accept childs. Would it be not good to have the