] Which has been implemented in DOS2 already. And why is it so hard to
] initialize once without going to Basic? Does it have something to do with
] that CLEAR-issue?
No. It has to do with the way in which MSXDOS.SYS (which is loaded in high
area of memory) manages the DOS memory.
Kind
Sure. But I think it's better to leave the memory management
to DOS2 and
use the TSR-manager from MemMan, because that part of MemMan
really rules.
Yep, but most of the TSR's will use the memmory management of memman
also, so if you seperate those routine most of the current TSRs won't
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Vasques Bravo-Villalba
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
Alex Wulms wrote:
] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ?
Yes. Great tool. All
At 10:22 12-7-00 -0300, you wrote:
Alex Wulms wrote:
] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ?
Yes. Great tool. All microcabin musics on the background :-))
Hey, I want it. Where can we find it? Does it
work with both MSX-Music and PSG? :)
If you mean the TSR can
] At 00:37 12-7-00 +0200, you wrote:
]
] I myself have never been able to do so. Just take for example R800-drive. You
] can only load it from BASIC. And the only reason that I never made a DOS .COM
] version of it is exactly because, by my knowledge, it is impossible to
] properly load a TSR
The problem is, you always see the welcome message of MemMan. You can't
switch it off.
That should be no problem. How about using a disk editor to patch MEMMAN.COM
? Just change the first character of the welcome message to '$' if it uses
the BDOS to print or to zero if it uses asciiz strings.
At 18:06 10-7-00 +0200, you wrote:
The problem is, you always see the welcome message of MemMan. You can't
switch it off.
That should be no problem. How about using a disk editor to patch MEMMAN.COM
? Just change the first character of the welcome message to '$' if it uses
the BDOS to print
[MemMan]
That's one solution. You must admit it's not a nice one, but it IS one.
IMHO it's better to rewrite the MemMan init-routine to NOT let it go to
Basic to initialize the rest...
Hm, then why not rewrite the entire MemMan (Yeah! MemMan2000! ;-)).
The specs are lying around somewhere
At 10:43 11-7-00 +0200, you wrote:
[MemMan]
That's one solution. You must admit it's not a nice one, but it IS one.
IMHO it's better to rewrite the MemMan init-routine to NOT let it go to
Basic to initialize the rest...
Hm, then why not rewrite the entire MemMan (Yeah! MemMan2000! ;-)).
Hi,
Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ?
Greetings,
Frits
Sure. But I think it's better to leave the memory management
to DOS2 and
use the TSR-manager from MemMan, because that part of MemMan
really rules.
GreeTz, BiFi
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]
] Hi,
]
] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ?
Yes. Great tool. All microcabin musics on the background :-))
Kind regards,
Alex Wulms
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]
]
] [MemMan]
] That's one solution. You must admit it's not a nice one, but it IS one.
] IMHO it's better to rewrite the MemMan init-routine to NOT let it go to
] Basic to initialize the rest...
I wish you much success with writing a TSR initialization routine that runs
under DOS and
At 00:37 12-7-00 +0200, you wrote:
I myself have never been able to do so. Just take for example R800-drive. You
can only load it from BASIC. And the only reason that I never made a DOS .COM
version of it is exactly because, by my knowledge, it is impossible to
properly load a TSR under DOS.
At 11:44 11-7-00 +0200, you wrote:
Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ?
Yes I do... What about it?
GreeTz, BiFi
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At 22:58 8-7-00 +0200, you wrote:
Or use MemMan, but that part of what they wanted to be a standard is just
as ancient as Metal Gear Solid will be in about a year... Then it really
be
last millennium :)
MemMan sucks.
It loads in an awful way (exiting to Basic).
Erix' Fossil does the same,
MemMan sucks.
It loads in an awful way (exiting to Basic).
AFAIK, there is the ONLY way in which a TSR can be loaded. It is due to
an incomplete design of MSX-DOS (makers did not though on page 3 memory
reservation...) However it is posible to avoid the BASIC exit messages
and the "_SYSTEM"
Some simple steps that make sure your program runs on all MSXes:
- Use DOS2 memory routines if they are present.
- If DOS2 memory routines are not present, make your own routines, which
store the values written to the mapper ports. When you need the current
value of a mapper port, don't do
At 23:24 5-7-00 +0200, you wrote:
] At 23:02 4-7-00 -0300, you wrote:
] P.S.: I tried it under DOS1.x I dunno if it uses DOS2 mapper control
] routines if DOS2 is installed
] and running ...
]
] It won't then... No need to try it, because the DOS2 routines overide
] manually setting a mapping any
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Albert Beevendorp wrote:
MAP.COM Which will crash the 1024 kB MSX turbo R ;-)
Huh? How standard is it then (either MAP.COM or the MSX turbo R)?
MAP.COM is a dirty hack to make ill-behaving programs work on those DOS2
machines that are able to read the mapper ports.
At 13:24 6-7-00 +, you wrote:
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Albert Beevendorp wrote:
MAP.COM Which will crash the 1024 kB MSX turbo R ;-)
Huh? How standard is it then (either MAP.COM or the MSX turbo R)?
MAP.COM is a dirty hack to make ill-behaving programs work on those DOS2
machines that
At 02:35 5-7-00 +0200, you wrote:
That's where my version doesn't need that. Strange things like having to
press the CTRL key at startup to make a game work... I know more of these
versions :(
Martos' cracks are the BEST even when is needed to press CTRL .
BTW, some of these cracks
At 23:02 4-7-00 -0300, you wrote:
P.S.: I tried it under DOS1.x I dunno if it uses DOS2 mapper control
routines if DOS2 is installed
and running ...
It won't then... No need to try it, because the DOS2 routines overide
manually setting a mapping any time... Okay, with one exception... MAP.COM
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jose
Angel Morente
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 4:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)
Hello !!!
Martos has converted A1 Spirit to a disk version to be loaded
on any MSX2 with at least 128KB
That's where my version doesn't need that. Strange things like having to
press the CTRL key at startup to make a game work... I know more of these
versions :(
At 02:45 4-7-00 +0200, you wrote:
Does some body has a crack whitch also works on a Turbo-R ? Because the
Crack of Martos doesn't
Jose Angel Morente wrote:
Does some body has a crack whitch also works on a Turbo-R ? Because the
Crack of Martos doesn't :(
Huh? It should work on MSXturboR ...
Did you press CTRL key at start up?
Yes, i did, and also tryed both versions (0 and 1), but it keep
resetting. I
Sandy Pleyte wrote:
Jose Angel Morente wrote:
Does some body has a crack whitch also works on a Turbo-R ? Because the
Crack of Martos doesn't :(
Huh? It should work on MSXturboR ...
Did you press CTRL key at start up?
Yes, i did, and also tryed both versions (0 and 1),
Hello !!!
Martos has converted A1 Spirit to a disk version to be loaded
on any MSX2 with at least 128KB mapper. If you want yo hear
SCC music you need a mapper 128KB.
It is on my web page:
http://msxjam.web.com
or
http://www.ag0ny.com/msx-legacy/index.htm
At 16:10 3-7-00 +0200, you wrote:
Martos has converted A1 Spirit to a disk version to be loaded
on any MSX2 with at least 128KB mapper. If you want yo hear
SCC music you need a mapper 128KB.
Hehe, guess what... so did I. 256 kB version only though... Available on my
FTP soon but you can mail
:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)
Hello !!!
Martos has converted A1 Spirit to a disk version to be loaded
on any MSX2 with at least 128KB mapper. If you want yo hear
SCC music you need a mapper 128KB.
It is on my web page:
http
Does some body has a crack whitch also works on a Turbo-R ? Because the
Crack of Martos doesn't :(
Huh? It should work on MSXturboR ...
Did you press CTRL key at start up?
Un saludo,
Jose Angel Morente ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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