Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Oliver Larkin
Not sure if anyone mentioned jamoma - at least part of it has a permissive licence, not sure if it's the bit you would need http://redmine.jamoma.org/projects/audiograph On 8 Feb 2011, at 03:28, Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com wrote: Thanks Oliver. Just took a look. Looks like a very

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Dan Stowell
Morgan - I don't know RTCmix but the situation you describe is similar to that with SuperCollider: if you run SC's audio engine as a background process and call into the engine usually using OSC, your calling application is separate and doesn't need to be GPL'd. I don't know how convenient

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Morgan Packard wrote: It seems there are a number of ways to interpret whether an application which links to a GPL library must be open-sourced as well (based on wikipedia's expert legal advice). Wikipedia is not a legal expert nor am I. The Free Software Foundation which publishes the GPL

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Bernardo Barros
Yes, SuperCollider code *should* be GPL, thank God. That doesn't mean you can't charge for it. Build your application, charge for it, but put the stuff somewhere as GPL code too. -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive,

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Brad Garton
Yes, in fact I've been doing it for years (the rtcmix~ object for max/msp). brad On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:08 AM, Morgan Packard wrote: Brad, It seems there are a number of ways to interpret whether an application which links to a GPL library must be open-sourced as well (based on

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Brad Garton
This is how I did the sc3~ object for max/msp. RTcmix is set up to compile as a static or dynamic library, so it's a bit more tightly-coupled. brad http://music.columbia.edu/~brad On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:43 AM, Dan Stowell wrote: Morgan - I don't know RTCmix but the situation you describe

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Victor Lazzarini
and the csound~ and csoundapi~ objects for MaxMSP and PD are modules that are dynamically-linked to Csound, but their particulart licence can be anything (it's LGPL as it happens, csoundapi~). Victor On 8 Feb 2011, at 15:18, Brad Garton wrote: This is how I did the sc3~ object for

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Stefan Kersten
On 08.02.11 10:08, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Ross Bencina wrote: Morgan wrote: SuperCollider -- GPL licence, would require that I open-source my app Are you sure this is the case? even if you run scserver in a separate process (assuming you can do that on iOS) and call it from your own

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Chris Cannam
On 8 February 2011 15:50, Stefan Kersten s...@k-hornz.de wrote: the known precedents make it a risky undertaking trying to distribute _any_ GPL'd application through the app store, because apple might decide to take it out in any moment; not a sound foundation to build any business model on ...

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Very well pointed out. That is why we need to look towards other platforms... and forget this one. On 8 Feb 2011, at 15:50, Stefan Kersten wrote: that covers the i don't want to open-source my app part but it doesn't help with the apple doesn't want GPL apps in their store part, because

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Stephen Sinclair
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com wrote: Am I missing something? Is there anything -- free, or not, which I should look at for iOS development besides Pure Data? Are there not hundreds of other people with the same needs that I have? Are my options really

Re: [music-dsp] a multiband compression experiment

2011-02-08 Thread Andy Farnell
That sounds lovely Theo, really transparent on my monitors. On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 20:51:42 +0100 Theo Verelst theo...@tiscali.nl wrote: Hi all Using my new I7 motherboard's 192kS/s converters I thought I'd record a short jazz piece to test a multiband compression scheme at that sample rate.

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Andy Farnell
+1 for Zen Garden, because I was alongside Martin while he developed and know the code is quite lean and clean, designed for mobile in mind (Android and iPhone) and he is quite liberal about licensing. Also on Brad's RTCmix, I have never found anything more reliable for basic functions, in a

Re: [music-dsp] damn patents (was New patent application on uniformly partitioned convolution) [OT]

2011-02-08 Thread Andy Farnell
On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:04:53 + Richard Dobson richarddob...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I can't put a lot of time into this reply, too much else to do. But I Understood. Me too, just a few days off for hellraising and then back to the grind too. Appreciate your banter on this Richard.

Re: [music-dsp] a multiband compression experiment

2011-02-08 Thread Tom Wiltshire
Very nice. Can we hear a 'before' and 'after' for the compression, please? Thanks, Tom On 8 Feb 2011, at 19:51, Theo Verelst wrote: Hi all Using my new I7 motherboard's 192kS/s converters I thought I'd record a short jazz piece to test a multiband compression scheme at that sample rate.

Re: [music-dsp] looking for a flexible synthesis system technically and legally appropriate for iOS development

2011-02-08 Thread Brad Garton
Wow, that's longer than the tests I've done! brad On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Andy Farnell wrote: Also on Brad's RTCmix, I have never found anything more reliable for basic functions, in a test I had a sound server installation mixing wavs to make random ambient textures, it ran for 4