Replying to Email / Removing previous signature

2008-02-18 Thread Joseph
When replying to an email that you sent earlier, how would you go about removing the previous signature? Some times you communicate to someone and end up with a lot of copies of old signatures. Thunderbird at least some of the time detects that your signature is already there and removes

Re: Replying to Email / Removing previous signature

2008-02-18 Thread Breen Mullins
* Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-18 13:08 -0500]: When replying to an email that you sent earlier, how would you go about removing the previous signature? I use vim as my editor - I have a macro defined in vimrc map ,ds :.,/^-- $/-1dCRO (ds for delete-to-sigdashes). It's not automatic

Re: Replying to Email / Removing previous signature

2008-02-18 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 18 Feb 2008 13:08 -0500, by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph): When replying to an email that you sent earlier, how would you go about removing the previous signature? Run a message through this awk script before passing it to your editor. (Set $editor to a wrapper script.) ** cut ** {if ($0

Re: Replying to Email / Removing previous signature

2008-02-18 Thread Michael Kjorling
Description: PGP signature

Re: Replying to Email / Removing previous signature

2008-02-18 Thread Joseph
On 02/18/08, Breen Mullins wrote: * Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-18 13:08 -0500]: When replying to an email that you sent earlier, how would you go about removing the previous signature? I use vim as my editor - I have a macro defined in vimrc map ,ds :.,/^-- $/-1dCRO (ds

Re: Replying to Email / Removing previous signature

2008-02-18 Thread Breen Mullins
* Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-18 14:33 -0500]: Wow, that is really slick. But not original to me - I snarfed something similar a long time ago... For others who may want to try this, I had to make some changes to get it to work. You changed my definition. I actually do type

Re: Replying to Email / Removing previous signature

2008-02-18 Thread Kyle Wheeler
setting (+%s/\n\n/\r/) or you can make a key mapping out of it (map ,oe :%s/\n\n/\r/CR), whichever you prefer. ~Kyle - -- Truth springs from argument amongst friends. -- David Hume -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using

Re: howto unset signature ?

2008-01-04 Thread Dilip M
On Jan 4, 2008 4:17 PM, Paul Puschmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... snip ... unset signature set signature=~/.mutt/signatures/lnx_standard.txt send-hook . set signature=~/.mutt/signatures/lnx_standard.txt Can you tell me which of these settings is obsolete and howto delete the signature

Re: howto unset signature ?

2008-01-04 Thread Paul Puschmann
Dilip M [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 04:55:48PM +0530: On Jan 4, 2008 4:17 PM, Paul Puschmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... snip ... unset signature set signature=~/.mutt/signatures/lnx_standard.txt send-hook . set signature=~/.mutt/signatures/lnx_standard.txt Can

howto unset signature ?

2008-01-04 Thread Paul Puschmann
Hi, I use four different profiles in mutt, all loaded via F9 to F12. I use the following code to set my signatures, but it doesn't work that well. unset signature set signature=~/.mutt/signatures/lnx_standard.txt send-hook . set signature=~/.mutt/signatures/lnx_standard.txt Can you tell me

Re: howto unset signature ?

2008-01-04 Thread Rado S
=- Paul Puschmann wrote on Fri 4.Jan'08 at 12:57:47 +0100 -= Okay. When I compose a new message (like now) I still get the signature of my account F12 inserted in my editor. Is it useful to use send-hooks or is set signature enough if I simply like to have a usual signature in each mail I

Cool proverbs as signature

2007-11-18 Thread Umut Tabak
Hi list, I am a rather new user of mutt. I was wondering how to add these cool proverbs by famous people to the end of my message randomly. I guess it has a connection to fortune in bash? Or am I wrong? Rgds, Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm

Re: Cool proverbs as signature

2007-11-18 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 the mental interface of Umut Tabak told: Hi list, I am a rather new user of mutt. I was wondering how to add these cool proverbs by famous people to the end of my message randomly. I guess it has a connection to fortune in bash? Or am I wrong? set signature=`which

Re: Append signature on a case-by-case basis

2007-10-08 Thread Alexander Dahl
send-hook PATTERN set signature=SIGNATURE_FILE That's pretty cool, I'll try that to append a signature based on outgoing address. There is another notable feature, you can set SIGNATURE_FILE to a pipe like this: send-hook PATTERN set signature=SIGNATURE_FILE| mutt

Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 07:12:59PM +0100, Arthur Dent wrote: I am not, nor ever have been, a top poster. I would however just like to play Devil's Advocate for a moment and just point out a couple of examples where one might be grateful for it: When usenet newsgroups were more popular than

Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-16 Thread Marc Wilson
. It is not necessary for you to archive the entire list locally. -- Marc Wilson | Audacity, and again, audacity, and always audacity. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- G.J. Danton pgpSgI6EGsAN0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-15 Thread Arthur Dent
pgpoAwVJxxA6V.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-14 Thread Ben Gladwell
: Is there a way to tell mutt that I write my response at the top of the message, not the bottom, and that it should insert the signature right above the line that says On date, name wrote: Top-posting is evil, and should always be discouraged. I suppose since you do that, you don't edit your

Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-14 Thread Kyle Wheeler
, that's extremely annoying. ~Kyle - -- What greater thing is there for human souls than to feel that they are joined for life - to be with each other in silent unspeakable memories. -- George Eliot -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank

Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-14 Thread Kyle Wheeler
of the Orient shore, Mocha, far off, the fragrant berries bore. Taste the dark fluid with a dainty lip, Digestion waits on pleasure as you sip. -- Pope Leo XII -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption

Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-14 Thread Ben Gladwell
On 14/09/07 09:03 -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Friday, September 14 at 09:40 AM, quoth Ben Gladwell: Maybe someone should explain to me what's so bad about top posting. Seems like a matter of preference to me. To quote the jargon file: The problem with this practice is neatly summed up

top-posting and Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-14 Thread David Champion
, and I'm allowed some error in judgment. :) And sometimes I find it best to put text both before and after the quoted material. * As for your original question, because I sometimes top-post and usually do not, I don't normally use mutt for attaching my signature at all. Instead I have an editor

Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-14 Thread David Ellement
On 2007-09-14, Ben Gladwell wrote Maybe someone should explain to me what's so bad about top posting. Seems like a matter of preference to me. It *is* a matter of preference, as are good manners. Top posting puts the burden of putting the poster's reply in context and logical order on the

Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-14 Thread David Ellement
On 2007-09-14, I wrote HP Confidential This e-mail message and any attachments thereto ... My appologies to the list. I didn't intend to include the disclaimer, but forgot to delete it. I should stick to posting replies from home. -- David Ellement

signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-13 Thread Ben Gladwell
When I reply to a message, the signature you see below is appended to the very end of my reply. Is there a way to tell mutt that I write my response at the top of the message, not the bottom, and that it should insert the signature right above the line that says On date, name wrote: instead

Re: signature at the beginning, not the end

2007-09-13 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 11:04:59AM -0400, Ben Gladwell wrote: Is there a way to tell mutt that I write my response at the top of the message, not the bottom, and that it should insert the signature right above the line that says On date, name wrote: Top-posting is evil, and should always

Re: Append signature on a case-by-case basis

2007-09-08 Thread Alexander Dahl
You can accomplish this by setting signature in a send-hook, like so: send-hook PATTERN set signature=SIGNATURE_FILE That's pretty cool, I'll try that to append a signature based on outgoing address. Greets Alex -- * http://www.lespocky.de

Re: Append signature on a case-by-case basis

2007-09-08 Thread Thor Andreassen
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 04:26:14PM +0200, Alexander Dahl wrote: You can accomplish this by setting signature in a send-hook, like so: send-hook PATTERN set signature=SIGNATURE_FILE That's pretty cool, I'll try that to append a signature based on outgoing address. There is another

Re: Append signature on a case-by-case basis

2007-09-08 Thread Christian Ebert
* Thor Andreassen on Saturday, September 08, 2007 at 02:16:51 +0200 send-hook PATTERN set signature=SIGNATURE_FILE Probably should be quoted: send-hook PATTERN ' set signature=SIGNATURE_FILE' ^ if you leave a space here the command won't be recorded in history. c

Append signature on a case-by-case basis

2007-09-07 Thread Kai Grossjohann
I understand that I can set $signature to a file name with my signature. Then all subsequent outgoing messages will have that signature appended. Or I can set $signature to something else or remove the file. Then all subsequent messages will not have a signature appended. But what I want

Re: Append signature on a case-by-case basis

2007-09-07 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-09-08, Kai Grossjohann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that I can set $signature to a file name with my signature. Then all subsequent outgoing messages will have that signature appended. Or I can set $signature to something else or remove the file. Then all subsequent messages

Re: Append signature on a case-by-case basis

2007-09-07 Thread Thor Andreassen
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 12:30:42AM +0200, Kai Grossjohann wrote: I understand that I can set $signature to a file name with my signature. Then all subsequent outgoing messages will have that signature appended. Or I can set $signature to something else or remove the file. Then all subsequent

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-02 Thread Alain Bench
: They shouted the PGP signature could NOT be verified. error, just like failed verifications. The upcase S is intended to appear only when everything is entirely sure. Bye!Alain. -- Mutt compressed folders tip for stable archive timestamp: | open-hook \\.gz$ gzip -cd '%f' '%t' ; ret=$? ; touch

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-02 Thread Stefano Sabatini
. Previously, partially signed messages were considered yet more suspiciously: They shouted the PGP signature could NOT be verified. error, just like failed verifications. The upcase S is intended to appear only when everything is entirely sure. OK, thanks! This leads to: mutt random tip #6 A signed

GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-01 Thread Stefano Sabatini
) --] gpg: Signature made Tue 01 May 2007 03:34:27 PM CEST using DSA key ID gpg: Good signature from xx xxx gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. Primary key

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-01 Thread Todd Zullinger
01 May 2007 03:50:24 PM CEST) --] gpg: Signature made Tue 01 May 2007 03:34:27 PM CEST using DSA key ID gpg: Good signature from xx xxx gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-01 Thread Sander Smeenk
' in front of your message changes to an 'S' after reading it. You can test this by adding a local signature to a key for which this happens (gpg --lsign-key keyid). And i haven't added a local signature to your key :-) Regards, Sander. -- | I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-01 Thread Todd Zullinger
== Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand. Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand. pgpNmAEIlDN1h.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-01 Thread Todd Zullinger
Stefano Sabatini wrote: This is my crypto setting: # %f: message file # %s: signature file # %a: pgp_sign_as value set pgp_decode_command=gpg %?p? --passphrase-fd 0? --no-verbose --batch --output - %f set pgp_verify_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - --verify %s %f set

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-01 Thread Stefano Sabatini
. In most cases it works just fine, but in some cases I get something as: [-- PGP output follows (current time: Tue 01 May 2007 03:50:24 PM CEST) --] gpg: Signature made Tue 01 May 2007 03:34:27 PM CEST using DSA key ID gpg: Good signature from xx xxx

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-01 Thread Stefano Sabatini
On date Tuesday 2007-05-01 11:31:18 -0400, Todd Zullinger muttered: Stefano Sabatini wrote: This is my crypto setting: # %f: message file # %s: signature file # %a: pgp_sign_as value set pgp_decode_command=gpg %?p? --passphrase-fd 0? --no-verbose --batch --output - %f set

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-01 Thread Todd Zullinger
pgpGN83qHLLJZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-01 Thread Stefano Sabatini
mutt displayed in the echo/prompt line (ehm, the line at the bottom of the mutt layout, where usually are inserted commands and arguments): Part of this message has not been signed. and when I opened signed message in other folders: PGP signature successfully verified. (by the way: can someone

Re: GPG and good signature (mis?)behaviour

2007-05-01 Thread Stefano Sabatini
On date Tuesday 2007-05-01 21:24:55 +0200, Stefano Sabatini muttered: [...] (by the way: can someone suggest why this message doesn't appear with my (quite bloated) configuration? I have the line: color message brightcyan default so it doesn't seem to be a color problem. Do others

Re: Mutt and GPG: how to manually verify the signature of a message?

2007-04-23 Thread Alain Bench
Hello Stefano, On Monday, April 16, 2007 at 12:01:57 +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote: the body of the mail (which is supposedly the part which is signed). There's more signed: The MIME part mini-header, the empty head/body separator line, and of course the body. Everything between the MIME

Re: Mutt and GPG: how to manually verify the signature of a

2007-04-16 Thread Kyle Wheeler
, but it fails when I do it manually, saving in distinct files the message and the signature. For example if I save the (clear) message in message, and the signature in signature.asc, then the command: gpg --verify signature.asc message The message *body* or the message itself? Generally

Re: Mutt and GPG: how to manually verify the signature of a message?

2007-04-16 Thread Stefano Sabatini
and the signature. For example if I save the (clear) message in message, and the signature in signature.asc, then the command: gpg --verify signature.asc message The message *body* or the message itself? Generally the message includes all sorts of things (headers and such) that are not part

Mutt and GPG: how to manually verify the signature of a message?

2007-04-14 Thread Stefano Sabatini
Hi to all mutters, and sorry for the likely dumb question I'm posting. I'm testing mutt and gnupg, I can verify with no problem messages signatures, but it fails when I do it manually, saving in distinct files the message and the signature. For example if I save the (clear) message in message

Re: Breaking a GPG signature for demonstrative purposes

2007-03-31 Thread David Haguenauer
* mal content [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2007-03-31 21:05:08 Sat: This may sound like a phenomenally idiotic question, but I'd like to somehow send an email to a friend with a broken signature to make it look as if the message has been modified in transit. One way to achieve this would be to send

Re: Breaking a GPG signature for demonstrative purposes

2007-03-31 Thread mal content
On 31/03/07, David Haguenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * mal content [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2007-03-31 21:05:08 Sat: This may sound like a phenomenally idiotic question, but I'd like to somehow send an email to a friend with a broken signature to make it look as if the message has been modified

SUMMARY: Displaying PGP signature *after* the message?

2002-10-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 02:40:27PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 8 lines which said: Is there a way to display the message Good signature from... *after* the message, not between the headers and the messages? Or to hide it unless specifically called? OK

Re: SUMMARY: Displaying PGP signature *after* the message?

2002-10-18 Thread René Clerc
. msg31887/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Displaying PGP signature *after* the message?

2002-10-18 Thread Rafael C. Gawenda
* Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-16 14:40 (CEST)] Is there a way to display the message Good signature from... *after* the message, not between the headers and the messages? Or to hide it unless specifically called? (Yes, I've look at the documentation and in many .muttrc

Displaying PGP signature *after* the message?

2002-10-16 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
[I know it might have bad security consequences, but I really don't like to see most of my screen eaten by the outout of GPG checking PGP signatures.] Is there a way to display the message Good signature from... *after* the message, not between the headers and the messages? Or to hide it unless

Re: Displaying PGP signature *after* the message?

2002-10-16 Thread René Clerc
is not enough and three are too many. msg31860/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Displaying PGP signature *after* the message?

2002-10-16 Thread PeterKorman
]) There is a definite parallel between shots of tequila and a woman's breasts. One is not enough and three are too many. Mutt GPG integration is so very good it's almost a crime to suggest a change. In a perfect world, I think I'd want to know only if the signature did *NOT* check out against the keyserver copy

Re: Displaying PGP signature *after* the message?

2002-10-16 Thread René Clerc
world, I think I'd want to know only if the signature did *NOT* check out against the keyserver copy. The part of his question I replied to, is the part that doesn't require a patch for mutt, if I'm correct. I believe my reply is valid; if you want to hide GnuPG output, then don't verify

Re: Displaying PGP signature *after* the message?

2002-10-16 Thread PeterKorman
it unless specifically called? unset pgp_verify_sig In a perfect world, I think I'd want to know only if the signature did *NOT* check out against the keyserver copy. The part of his question I replied to, is the part that doesn't require a patch for mutt, if I'm correct. I believe my

Re: Displaying PGP signature *after* the message?

2002-10-16 Thread Rob Reid
At 10:27 AM EDT on October 16 PeterKorman sent off: In a perfect world, I think I'd want to know only if the signature did *NOT* check out against the keyserver copy. IMHO, that would weaken the point of crypto signatures. First, most* signature failures are innocent, being due to MTA

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-09 Thread John Buttery
material in context, #but no more; most readers will be able to refer to the earlier article #itself, if need be. Never write on the same line as a quotation, except #in lists and notes; generally leave a wholly blank line between. Do not #quote the header or the signature, unless it is relevant to do so

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-07 Thread Vikram Goyal
was taught some lessons by the guardians. :-) Thank you. Bo Also remember some people have taught their editors to remove sigs automatically while replying. Just imagine what would happen to the message with a top signature. -- Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-07 Thread Rob Park
heat from netiquette guardians.', I was taught some lessons by the guardians. :-) Thank you. Bo Also remember some people have taught their editors to remove sigs automatically while replying. Just imagine what would happen to the message with a top signature. Yeah, the fullquote

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-06 Thread Paul Brannan
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:49:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top posting sends the message I am so much more important than all several hundred of you others on this list that I don't care how much of your time I waste. Bottom posting says I respect the others on this list and I will

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-06 Thread Sam Bashton
On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 01:37:20AM -0400, Paul Brannan wrote: BTW, why did this post show up in my inbox rather than in my mutt folder? My procmailrc searches for ^TO.*mutt-users, but mutt-users doesn't seem to be anywhere in the headers (unless I missed it somehow). What part of the header

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-06 Thread jkinz
On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 10:10:31AM +0100, Sam Bashton wrote: On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 01:37:20AM -0400, Paul Brannan wrote: BTW, why did this post show up in my inbox rather than in my mutt folder? My procmailrc searches for ^TO.*mutt-users, but mutt-users doesn't seem to be anywhere in

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-06 Thread David T-G
://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg30756/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-06 Thread jkinz
On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 01:37:20AM -0400, Paul Brannan wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:49:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top posting sends the message I am so much more important than all several hundred of you others on this list that I don't care how much of your time I waste.

top-post supports bad software (was: location of signature.)

2002-09-06 Thread Sven Guckes
* Paul Brannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-06 09:03]: if someone sends you a long email (and it is necessary and/or appropriate to quote the email or a large portion of it), then replying at the top saves the reader the time of scrolling to the bottom to find the reply. so you top-post

rtfm dammit (was: location of signature.)

2002-09-06 Thread Sven Guckes
RTM ! argh! (I'm afraid Elm is still programmed into my fingers, just like vi. :) and apparently the nine line signature with the trailing spaces is, too... so, fix your From+MID+sig and upgrade to mutt 1.4. or just go back to elm. some people should stay with elm, pine, whatever so you can

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-06 Thread Oliver Fuchs
On Fri, 06 Sep 2002, Paul Brannan wrote: folder? My procmailrc searches for ^TO.*mutt-users, but mutt-users doesn't seem to be anywhere in the headers (unless I missed it somehow). Try this: :0: * ^TO_mutt-users@mutt\.org mutt :0: * ^TO_mutt-users@gbnet\.net mutt :0: *

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-06 Thread Rob Reid
At 1:37 AM EDT on September 6 Paul Brannan sent off: On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:49:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree. While bottom posting is appropriate for most public forums (because discussions on these forums generally involve a point-by-point debate), there is a valid

Re: top-post supports bad software (was: location of signature.)

2002-09-06 Thread Phil Gregory
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-06 13:54 +0200]: * Paul Brannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-06 09:03]: What part of the header should I be filtering on? using TO is fine. In my experience, it's best to find a header set by the list processing software and filter on that header.

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Jussi Ekholm
to do with M$. How odd. I THINK it is better to put the reply AFTER the quoted text and this has absolutely _nothing_ to do with M$. It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) and keep my signature closer to the main body. This also makes an email

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Charles Cazabon
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But please, remember to use correct signature delimiter (-- , that is dash-dash-space)! O:-) ITYM 'that is dash-dash-space, dammit'. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Jonathan Perkin
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 06:17:34PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: OK. I found the messages and I am not glad about those so-called rules. I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text A: Top posters Q: What's the most annoying thing about email these days? -- Jonathan Perkin - BBC

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Sven Guckes
* Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-04 23:17]: OK. I found the messages and I am not glad about those so-called rules. I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text and .. [unedited fullquote] thankyou. that's certainly enough. Sven -- echo black_list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Roman Neuhauser
) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) Yes. Just as it's natural to answer questions before they're asked. and keep my signature closer to the main body. Yes. Just as you put your signature at the top of paper letters. This also makes an email easier

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Bo Peng
I post an email, asking a simple question. What happened? I suppose that not only Will know the answer. However, I was defined as a M$ follower, a corrupted newbie. I was then directed to a manner class. After I expressed my personal preference. I get more emails, not limited to what you

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Charles Cazabon
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I post an email, asking a simple question. What happened? You ignored thirty years of netiquette and suggested it was okay to do so. Are there good manners? Most of us still have them. You don't. Charles --

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
lurk. when in rome... -- Peter Abplanalp PGP: pgp.mit.edu msg30724/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Rob Reid
At 9:39 PM EDT on September 4 Bo Peng sent off: There is nothing wrong with either order. Nobody is 'corrupted' by anything. Wrong. People are. Software as good as mutt should be neutral between these preferences, i.e. provides support for both styles. No, good != neutral. Good

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Bo Peng
This will be my last post about this topic. I am not gonna waste more time on this trivial issue, even if it is important to many of you. I do not know exactly how many people reply before quoted message but over 90% of my daily emails are in this style and I can see this kind of emails all

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
Description: PGP signature

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Ken Weingold
On Thu, Sep 5, 2002, Bo Peng wrote: I do not know exactly how many people reply before quoted message but over 90% of my daily emails are in this style and I can see this kind of emails all over the Internet. Maybe they are all bad-mannered people, maybe they are all corrupted by M$, I feel

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread jkinz
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 05:00:19PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: This will be my last post about this topic. I am not gonna waste more time on this trivial issue, even if it is important to many of you. Hi Bo, One time, about, oh, twenty or so years ago I felt the same way you currently do about top

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
msg30733/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread jkinz
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 06:01:48PM -0600, Peter T. Abplanalp wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:49:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the manner on this group, you are correct. This group can be a little rougher in its treatment of newbies than most others. I'm not sure why they

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 05:00:19PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: This will be my last post about this topic. I am not gonna waste more time on this trivial issue, even if it is important to many of you. I do not know exactly how many people reply before quoted message but over 90% of my daily

location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Bo Peng
Hi, Everyone, Mutt automatically put the signature at the end of the email. Can I let it be put before the quoted text? Thanks. -- Bo Peng Department of Statistics Rice University http://www.stat.rice.edu/~bpeng Office: DH2076, (713) 348-2863

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-04 10:24:57 + (-0500): Hi, Everyone, Mutt automatically put the signature at the end of the email. Can I let it be put before the quoted text? yes. use Outlook. -- FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 5:32PM up 14 days, 23:25, 8 users, load averages: 0.02

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Heiko Heil
* Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09/04/2002 18:01]: Mutt automatically put the signature at the end of the email. Can I let it be put before the quoted text? This discussion (Message-ID 8gcg1a$qte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]) may be helpful for you. -- Best regards Heiko

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Bo Peng
I am sorry but I could not find this message. Could you tell me its subject or date? Is it in mutt-user group? Thanks. Bo On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 08:16:12PM +0200, Heiko Heil wrote: * Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09/04/2002 18:01]: Mutt automatically put the signature at the end of the email

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread -dsr-
Bo Peng wrote: I am sorry but I could not find this message. Could you tell me its subject or date? Is it in mutt-user group? This discussion (Message-ID 8gcg1a$qte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]) may be helpful for you. It's a message ID. Go search Google Groups for it; you'll get a 12 message

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Bo Peng
OK. I found the messages and I am not glad about those so-called rules. I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text and this has nothing to do with M$. It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) and keep my signature closer to the main

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Rob Reid
(if they haven't been corrupted by years of the other way) prefer a temporal ordering, i.e. old stuff at top, new stuff at bottom. and keep my signature closer to the main body. I'd rather keep each sentence of my reply as close as possible to the point that it is replying to. This also makes

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Patrick
(quote) and keep my signature closer to the main body. This also makes an email easier to read if the quote is long. If mutt does not have this function, it is perfectly fine. But there is nothing wrong with M$ to provide it! You ARE entitled to your ?OPINION?. Hope you have a flak jacket

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Charles Cazabon
* Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-02 18:22]: It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) If the quote isn't important, leave it out altogether. Notice how I didn't quote all of the text of the original message? Notice how much easier to read it

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Bo Peng
sent yesterday would have cost the bandwidth of 1000 emails' quoted text. I will write a vim function to insert my signature. Bo

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Iain Truskett
* Bo Peng ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [05 Sep 2002 11:40]: [...] I do not see anything wrong with quoting the whole message. It is a good reference if the reader need to read it or it can be ignored easily. But I already have the previous messages. I can press P and read them. A much better

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread Will Yardley
be ignored easily. I do not think bandwidth is an issue too. The picture I sent yesterday would have cost the bandwidth of 1000 emails' quoted text. I will write a vim function to insert my signature. Fullquoting is extremely rude... especially on a discussion list, since people looking through

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