Re: TOFU

2002-06-06 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [2002-06-06 08:15:32 CEST] wrote: What's wrong with TOFU? Text Over Fullquote Underneath. Well, I don't know if ``TOFU'' refers to the same terrible tasting kind of plastic over at your location, too. So, here (in .de) it has at least 2 different meanings which need

Re: gpg mutt

2002-06-06 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * David T-G [2002-06-06 00:22:02 CEST] wrote: I had the same problem recently and we traced it to the gpg exit code. It turns out that I had a bogus entry in my options file that caused gpg to not fail but not exit cleanly, and mutt noticed that. Wow, just to be curious, your solution

Re: TOFU

2002-06-06 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: Hi, =20 * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [2002-06-06 08:15:32 CEST] wrote: =20 What's wrong with TOFU? =20 Text Over Fullquote

Re: save sent does not work porperly

2002-06-06 Thread Sven Guckes
* Andreas Reinhold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-05 20:47]: although save sent is set in my .muttrc .. some mails are not saved in the specified folder. bzzzt. you did not specify anything. save is neither a command name nor a variable. you should get an error there on startup. try again. I

Re: How to save copy of resent message? - add fcc header

2002-06-06 Thread Sven Guckes
* John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-05 23:22]: I note that if I resend a message from, say, my outbox by doing ESC e to open it, edit and send the new message, no copy of the newly edited and sent message is placed in my outbox. Is there a way to change this behavior? no. feature. i

Re: save sent does not work porperly

2002-06-06 Thread Michael Tatge
Andreas Reinhold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: although save sent is set in my .muttrc, some mails are not saved in the specified folder. I canŽt see why some mails arenŽt saved, the majority of sent mails is correctly put in my sent-folder, but some are not. Don't know what you mean by save

Re: How to save copy of resent message?

2002-06-06 Thread Holger Lillqvist
On Jun 5, John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I note that if I resend a message from, say, my outbox by doing ESC e to open it, edit and send the new message, no copy of the newly edited and sent message is placed in my outbox. Is there a way to change this behavior? Since 1.3.28

Re: save sent does not work porperly

2002-06-06 Thread Andreas Reinhold
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:18:55AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: bzzzt. you did not specify anything. save is neither a command name nor a variable. you should get an error there on startup. try again. Uuuh, damn...I shouldnŽt drink post mails :) Of course it is this: set record = +sent the

Re: How to save copy of resent message? - add fcc header

2002-06-06 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-06 09:22 +0200]: * John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-05 23:22]: I note that if I resend a message from, say, my outbox by doing ESC e to open it, edit and send the new message, no copy of the newly edited and sent message is placed in my

Re: gpg mutt

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Rocco, et al -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % Hi, Hi! % % * David T-G [2002-06-06 00:22:02 CEST] wrote: % % I had the same problem recently and we traced it to the ... % % Wow, just to be curious, your solution is? To not declare my default keyring in my list of keyrings, since

Re: Default folder for save attachements

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Oliver -- ...and then Oliver Fuchs said... % % On Wed, 05 Jun 2002, David T-G wrote: % % I don't believe so; % % Yes, me too :-( % ... % The closest you can probably come is changing to there before starting mutt % % t is a good hint/idea ... If you haven't yet, be sure to check out

List slow?

2002-06-06 Thread Michael Tatge
Hi all, I sent a message to this list. 10:28:55 +0200,i.e. 3.5h ago and it still doesn't show up. What's wrong? It's nether my account not working nor my relay that has trouble. Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key

Re: Lotus Notes server?

2002-06-06 Thread darren chamberlain
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-05 22:07]: * darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-05 19:44]: Notes has an IMAP interface, which is, AFAIK, compatible with other IMAP implementations. I have co-worker who have used mutt with our internal Notes server without too many

Re: List slow?

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Michael -- ...and then Michael Tatge said... % % Hi all, Hello! % % I sent a message to this list. 10:28:55 +0200,i.e. 3.5h ago and it still That's odd. I've sent a few messages in the past few minutes and they've already shown up. Have you seen new stuff from me? % doesn't show up.

Re: List slow?

2002-06-06 Thread Michael Tatge
David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: % I sent a message to this list. 10:28:55 +0200,i.e. 3.5h ago and it still That's odd. I've sent a few messages in the past few minutes and they've already shown up. Have you seen new stuff from me? Yeah and you obviously received my List slow

Re: List slow?

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Michael -- ...and then Michael Tatge said... % % David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: % % I sent a message to this list. 10:28:55 +0200,i.e. 3.5h ago and it still % % That's odd. I've sent a few messages in the past few minutes and they've % already shown up. Have you seen new stuff

Re: Lotus Notes server?

2002-06-06 Thread Ken Weingold
On Thu, Jun 6, 2002, darren chamberlain wrote: This was about two years ago; I think the problems were with mutt's IMAP support (I remember him trying to diagnose segfaults), but I'm not sure, because it wasn't me, and I know better than to acknowledge the Notes server. ;) At this point I

Re: List slow?

2002-06-06 Thread Michael Tatge
David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: % I seems that it's only my own messages that get lost. Strage! Finally my messages (on this subject) arrived. So all is well. I wonder what happend to the message I was talking about, though. I'll just bounce it and see if it get's through now. I

Re: TOFU

2002-06-06 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:18:05AM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: So, there's no real equivalent term outside .de, I guess? It is easily rendered in English as Text Over, Fullquote Under. -- Mark REED| CNN Internet Technology 1 CNN Center Rm SW0831G | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: TOFU

2002-06-06 Thread Mark J. Reed
This was a test-resend - I originally sent this message yesterday morning. So I was also a victim of the random message-munching mentioned in the List slow? thread. On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:15:23AM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:18:05AM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: So,

Re: List slow?

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Michael, et al -- ...and then Michael Tatge said... % % David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: % % I seems that it's only my own messages that get lost. Strage! % % Finally my messages (on this subject) arrived. So all is well. I wonder Yay! % what happend to the message I was talking

Re: TOFU

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Mark, et al -- ...and then Mark J. Reed said... % % This was a test-resend - I originally sent this message yesterday I wondered about that, thinking that I had seen it before... I had, in fact. I wonder whatssup. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for

Re: List slow?

2002-06-06 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * David T-G [2002-06-06 16:15:42 CEST] wrote: I forget how mutt-users is set up, but could you have turned off metoo (in the list config, not muttrc) when you weren't looking? Hmm, I thought this list is run by majordomo. I've only recognized the 'metoo' feature by Mailman (which is an

Re: List slow?

2002-06-06 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:43:59PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: * David T-G [2002-06-06 16:15:42 CEST] wrote: I forget how mutt-users is set up, but could you have turned off metoo (in the list config, not muttrc) when you weren't looking? Hmm, I thought this list is run by majordomo. I've

Dafault for saving attachments

2002-06-06 Thread Michael Montagne
How do I set a default directory for saved attachments? Currently they go to my home directory but I'd like them to go to ~/attach or something. Thanks. -- Michael Montagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.boora.com

Re: Dafault for saving attachments

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Michael -- ...and then Michael Montagne said... % % How do I set a default directory for saved attachments? Currently they % go to my home directory but I'd like them to go to ~/attach or % something. Read the list archives over the past week. Heck, the past two days will do it, even. % %

Re: List slow?

2002-06-06 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Steve Kennedy [2002-06-06 16:47:10 CEST] wrote: On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:43:59PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: But anyways, what's the problem if messages take 2 hours to be delivered? 2 or 3 days are really a bit long, but this ain't chat, imho. Could be many problems, using

NuBe: upgrade question

2002-06-06 Thread Kevin
Newbie question (ignore if you like rather than flame) . I made the switch from Redmond to Linux almost a year ago, and used KMail. Now I'm switching to Mutt as I get more comfortable with the command line. Presently I'm running Mutt 1.2.5 on RH 7.3. I've DL'd Mutt 1.4 but ran into an

Re: NuBe: upgrade question

2002-06-06 Thread Mike Arrison
First I did which mutt and found it was in /usr/bin. So I figured when running the Mutt 1.4 configure script, that I needed --prefix=/usr/bin. So I ran the script and then as root did 'make install'. This, however reported an error in that it wanted to create a directory called man. you

[Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread Kevin
Thanks. That did the trick. Kevin - Forwarded message from Mike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:04:07 -0400 From: Mike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NuBe: upgrade question To: Mutt Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] First I did which mutt and found it was in

Re: NuBe: upgrade question

2002-06-06 Thread Mike Arrison
First I did which mutt and found it was in /usr/bin. So I figured when running the Mutt 1.4 configure script, that I needed --prefix=/usr/bin. So I ran the script and then as root did 'make install'. This, however reported an error in that it wanted to create a directory called man. you

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Kevin -- Wow. TOFU, forwarding attribution in a reply context, mangling the Subject: line with brackets, and losing the References: headers -- all in one post! Ouch! If you need help to come up to speed and lose your Outlook-ly ways, please let us know. After all, I wouldn't want to lose my

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread Kevin Coyner
Wow Wow. I see that I've a lot to learn. I'm really liking Mutt, but in all honesty it's a lot of work to put everything together. Ultimately that flexibility is the beauty of Mutt, but to get started is a steep learning curve, especially if you are relatively new to Linux, and even newer to

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Kevin -- ...and then Kevin Coyner said... % % Wow Wow. I see that I've a lot to learn. We all do. Don't worry; it'll come! % % I'm really liking Mutt, but in all honesty it's a lot That's good! % of work to put everything together. Ultimately that That's understood. % flexibility

recommend good address book

2002-06-06 Thread Kevin Coyner
As the newest Mutt user on the block (and definitely still trying to figure things out), one of the things I'm leaving behind with KMail is the KAddressbook. The two integrated pretty well. I'm enjoying using Mutt, although mangling the messages, but am wondering whether there is a good console

Re: recommend good address book

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Kevin -- ...and then Kevin Coyner said... % % As the newest Mutt user on the block (and definitely still *grin* ... % % I'm enjoying using Mutt, although mangling the messages, but % am wondering whether there is a good console type address % book to use with it? 1) I don't use it, but I

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Kevin Coyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-06 19:33]: I'm really liking Mutt, but in all honesty it's a lot of work to put everything together. You're right here. I think I needed two weeks to get everything together. Ultimately that flexibility is the beauty of Mutt, but to get started is a

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread Kevin Coyner
Since I'm just getting started and haven't invested a huge amount of time, effort and config files yet, what application chain would you recommend? At this point it won't be hard for me to make major changes since I'm not set in my ways nor have any predispositions. Right now I'm headed

Re: recommend good address book

2002-06-06 Thread Mike Arrison
Kevin, I'm enjoying using Mutt, although mangling the messages, but am wondering whether there is a good console type address book to use with it? I agree that abook is good. In fact, it is the first project that to which I've felt obliged and able to contribute. Its source is

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Kevin, et al -- ...and then Kevin Coyner said... % % Since I'm just getting started and haven't invested % a huge amount of time, effort and config files yet, what % application chain would you recommend? At this point Heh. You'll find that you'll get a different answer from everyone you

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Kevin -- ...and then David T-G said... % ... % I can't think of any more tools you really need; you have something to % read your mail, send your mail, get your mail, and filter your mail; that Oh, yeah. You've already started an address book discussion elsewhere. Another interesting tool is

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-06 20:04]: Let's see, here... The perl module Mail::Audit is in there somewhere, too; I think it's a filter. Archives :-) This is a powerful filter if you know Perl. I wouldn't recommend it if you don't. Thorsten -- When the government fears the

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread -dsr-
Kevin Coyner said: Since I'm just getting started and haven't invested a huge amount of time, effort and config files yet, what application chain would you recommend? At this point it won't be hard for me to make major changes since I'm not set in my ways nor have any predispositions.

Re: NuBe: upgrade question

2002-06-06 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:58:18AM -0400, Kevin wrote: So here's my question (at long last!): Should I uninstall the Mutt 1.2.5 RPM, and then just do a default install of Mutt 1.4? I've already been using Mutt and have mail folders, etc that I don't want to lose. it may be too late but i

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * -dsr- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-06 20:34]: maildrop has a simpler configuration language than procmail, but is again not quite as powerful. Since I am one of the most vocal Supporters of Maildrop, I would be interested to hear some examples where Procmail can do more. (Background: I used

3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Kevin Coyner
First, thanks to everyone so far for their help. I'm finding Mutt challenging but fun, and with the help from this group, it's even better. Second, 3 quick questions: 1. Where do D (deleted) msgs go? Is there an equivalent of trash, or am I truly out of the disneyland GUI world now and just

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:14:30PM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: 1. Where do D (deleted) msgs go? Is there an equivalent of trash, or am I truly out of the disneyland GUI world now and just like using rm on files, there's no going back. I believe that once you've synchronized the folder,

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Dan Boger
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:14:30PM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: 1. Where do D (deleted) msgs go? Is there an equivalent of trash, or am I truly out of the disneyland GUI world now and just like using rm on files, there's no going back. of course they're truly deleted... I mean, if I wanted

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Will Yardley
Kevin Coyner wrote: 1. Where do D (deleted) msgs go? Is there an equivalent of trash, or am I truly out of the disneyland GUI world now and just like using rm on files, there's no going back. they go to the great bit-bucket in the sky. you can use a macro (see the archives) to bind 'd'

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Kevin -- ...and then Kevin Coyner said... % % First, thanks to everyone so far for their help. I'm finding % Mutt challenging but fun, and with the help from this group, % it's even better. Yay! % % Second, 3 quick questions: % % 1. Where do D (deleted) msgs go? Is there an equivalent

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
Kevin -- ...and then David T-G said... % ... % folder or, as a last resort, just having macros that change who you are % with a keystroke or two. One more trick: putting all of the identity-specific information (name, address, sig, fun X-headers, etcetc) into its own rc file and then sourcing

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Mike Arrison
Kevin, You are bringing back memories of two months ago when I started using mutt. So far every day has been better than the previous. Ain't it great? Anyway, I can't help with all your questions, but: On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:14:30PM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: 3. This is the question

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Ken Weingold
On Thu, Jun 6, 2002, Dan Boger wrote: this is really a FAQ, and if we have a canned answer for this question, I'd love the pointer... You can use *-hooks, if you always want to send from a certain folder as a certain address, or when replying to certain emails. What I use though is a bunch

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Thorsten Haude
Moin, * Kevin Coyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-06 22:14]: 1. Where do D (deleted) msgs go? Is there an equivalent of trash, or am I truly out of the disneyland GUI world now and just like using rm on files, there's no going back. They are just gone. There's help though: I use Cedric Duval's

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Gary Johnson
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:14:30PM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: First, thanks to everyone so far for their help. I'm finding Mutt challenging but fun, and with the help from this group, it's even better. Second, 3 quick questions: 1. Where do D (deleted) msgs go? Is there an equivalent

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Patrick Draper
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 01:47:58PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: In addition to setting 'alternates', set 'reverse_name'. Then, as the manual says, the default From: line of the reply messages is built using the address where you received the messages you are replying to. If your want your

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread dsr
Thorsten Haude said: * -dsr- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-06 20:34]: maildrop has a simpler configuration language than procmail, but is again not quite as powerful. Since I am one of the most vocal Supporters of Maildrop, I would be interested to hear some examples where Procmail can do more.

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Mike Schiraldi
Well here's a feature request. I wish there were an option to have mutt prompt you for which return address to use, being able to pick from a menu of addresses set somewhere in the muttrc. Any possibility? Sure, just use this simple command from within mutt: !cd /usr/src/mutt $EDITOR

Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-06 21:54]: Thorsten Haude said: * -dsr- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-06 20:34]: maildrop has a simpler configuration language than procmail, but is again not quite as powerful. Since I am one of the most vocal Supporters of Maildrop, I would be

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-06 13:28 -0700]: you can use a macro (see the archives) to bind 'd' to save messages to a folder, or better, you can apply cedric duval's excellent trash folder patch. http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/ 2. When I'm in the index mode with all mail

Color with folder-hooks and status changes

2002-06-06 Thread Joseph Ishac
Hi, I've recently noticed an issue with my attempt to color some index entries on a per mailbox basis using the folder-hook command. The desired effect (expressed with the snip-it below) is to color mail from myself blue, except if I'm looking at the mbox that stores my outbound messages.

Re: Color with folder-hooks and status changes

2002-06-06 Thread John Iverson
* On Thu, 06 Jun 2002, Joseph Ishac wrote: The desired effect would be to have the behavior of the hooks as well as always changing color for status changes (such as tagging, etc.) I beleive the color used depends on the *last* matching color index statement, so you might have to include the

Re: 3 quick questions

2002-06-06 Thread parv
in message 20020606201430.GA25992@sumida, wrote Kevin Coyner thusly... Second, 3 quick questions: this is getting ridiculous people! use more descriptive subject instead of help equivalent. if cannot come up w/ a unified subject, ask in separate e-mails then. - parv --

Mailfilter (was: Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question])

2002-06-06 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Thorsten Haude [2002-06-07 23:20:42 CEST] wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-06 21:54]: The primary example of procmail's power is the ability to create, call and distribute modules. I never heard of these modules, neither has my manpage. Are you talking about

Re: Mailfilter

2002-06-06 Thread Thorsten Haude
Moin, * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-07 05:18]: This isn't exactly the right place to discuss, but I heavliy rely on the cloning feature of procmail. The introduction to Mail::Audit I've read doesn't say anything about this one but Mail::Audit would stop after I take an action on a mail

Re: Mailfilter

2002-06-06 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Thorsten Haude [02-06-07 06:14:30 +0200] wrote: [ Perl::Mail::Audit ] It stops by default, just like Procmail does, but you can change that. I make backups at the beginning of my ruleset: $mail-accept({noexit = 1}, $backup); Sounds good. If you don't mind, let me ask one more