Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:41:44PM +1300, martin f krafft wrote: Script output would be the content-type, a blank line, then the generated content. This makes me itch, but I cannot really devise a better approach. I want to say that the script needs to return the complete MIME part,

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread Akkana Peck
Matthias Apitz writes: > So, run mutt in an unicode-rxvt terminal. It presents URLs underlined > and click-able. I do so and sometimes I do hate it: you click into your Definitely not by default. I'm using rxvt-unicode, and I've tried the "matcher" and "selection" extensions but neither one

Re: Opening URLs from mutt (was: Creating HTML emails with mutt)

2019-10-28 Thread martin f krafft
Regarding the following, written by “雨宫恋叶” on 2019-10-29 at 00:41 Uhr +: For this, I think we should design a pager for that purpose. Urlview could probably be extended accordingly. It’d still be disruptive. Imagine reading a long email, and 75% down you encounter a link you want to

Re: Opening URLs from mutt (was: Creating HTML emails with mutt)

2019-10-28 Thread 雨宫恋叶
October 29, 2019 8:38 AM, "martin f krafft" wrote: > Regarding the following, written by "Dave Woodfall" on 2019-10-29 at 00:10 > Uhr +: > >> Urlview handles long and short links just fine. I've been using it >> for over 10 years. > > Yes, it does. I think Chris' and José's points were

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día lunes, octubre 28, 2019 a las 06:33:19p. m. -0400, José María Mateos escribió: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:11:31PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > >Well, do you speak for you or for a 'lot of people'? Who they are? > >I speak only for my own interests (as I said: I do not need this). > >

Re: Opening URLs from mutt (was: Creating HTML emails with mutt)

2019-10-28 Thread martin f krafft
Regarding the following, written by "Dave Woodfall" on 2019-10-29 at 00:10 Uhr +: Urlview handles long and short links just fine. I've been using it for over 10 years. Yes, it does. I think Chris' and José's points were more about requiring an external tool to provide functionality

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día martes, octubre 29, 2019 a las 11:19:43a. m. +1300, martin f krafft escribió: > Regarding the following, written by "Matthias Apitz" on 2019-10-28 at 23:11 > Uhr +0100: > >Well, do you speak for you or for a 'lot of people'? Who they are? > >I speak only for my own interests (as I said:

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread Dave Woodfall
> 2. The ability to natively display a subset of HTML (the same subset) >with the ability to trigger links to open in a browser (or perhaps >execute an arbitrary configured command). Modern terminal windows >can handle all of the formatting required to do just this much... elinks

Re: Opening URLs from mutt (was: Creating HTML emails with mutt)

2019-10-28 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 00:10:09 +, Dave Woodfall wrote: > Urlview handles long and short links just fine. I've been using it > for over 10 years. One issue I have with it is that context is lost. Marketing emails today tend to be massive strings with embedded IDs in them. Telling one from

Re: Opening URLs from mutt (was: Creating HTML emails with mutt)

2019-10-28 Thread Dave Woodfall
On Tue 29 Oct 2019 12:04, martin f krafft put forth the proposition: > Regarding the following, written by "Chris Green" on 2019-10-28 at 22:40 Uhr > +: > > Isn't that handled by your terminal program? Mine certainly allows > > one to right click on any URL to open it. > > rxvt-unicode also

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread martin f krafft
Hi Kevin, Thanks for sharing your thoughts and plans on this. This all reads really well, and I think it would go most of the way towards the ideal solution. I have a couple of points/questions about some of the things you propose: If there were an error sending, the alternative would be

Opening URLs from mutt (was: Creating HTML emails with mutt)

2019-10-28 Thread martin f krafft
Regarding the following, written by "Chris Green" on 2019-10-28 at 22:40 Uhr +: Isn't that handled by your terminal program? Mine certainly allows one to right click on any URL to open it. rxvt-unicode also has an extension ("matcher") that allows you to select and open URLs using the

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread José María Mateos
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:40:16PM +, Chris Green wrote: Isn't that handled by your terminal program? Mine certainly allows one to right click on any URL to open it. Not if the URL spans several lines. I think it's a common issue across several terminal programs and last time I read

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 06:33:19PM -0400, José María Mateos wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:11:31PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Well, do you speak for you or for a 'lot of people'? Who they are? > > I speak only for my own interests (as I said: I do not need this). > > Talking for

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread José María Mateos
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:11:31PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Well, do you speak for you or for a 'lot of people'? Who they are? I speak only for my own interests (as I said: I do not need this). Talking for myself, I really don't need point 1 (composing of HTML messages), but number 2,

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread martin f krafft
Regarding the following, written by "Matthias Apitz" on 2019-10-28 at 23:11 Uhr +0100: Well, do you speak for you or for a 'lot of people'? Who they are? I speak only for my own interests (as I said: I do not need this). Matthias, any such feature would of course be optional, and probably

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día lunes, octubre 28, 2019 a las 04:50:40p. m. -0500, Derek Martin escribió: > > FWIW, I (as a mutt user for 15++ years) do not need this. Thanks > > Perhaps not, but the fact that it keeps coming up here is pretty clear > indication that it's a feature that would be useful to a lot of >

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:06:18PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día lunes, octubre 28, 2019 a las 03:59:01p. m. -0500, Derek Martin > escribió: > > > FWIW, my two biggest wishlist items for Mutt are: > > > > 1. the ability to create and send at least simple HTML messages, with > >or

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día lunes, octubre 28, 2019 a las 03:59:01p. m. -0500, Derek Martin escribió: > FWIW, my two biggest wishlist items for Mutt are: > > 1. the ability to create and send at least simple HTML messages, with >or without multipart alternatives, specifically for basic text >formatting

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:02:38AM +0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:16:25AM +1300, martin f krafft wrote: > Native support for multipart/alternative composition isn't in my todo list. > However, I do have a plan to allow external filter generation of the > alternative.

Re: File locking on sshfs file system, possible?

2019-10-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 07:29:52PM +, Chris Green wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 01:31:57PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > You're probably better off using (local) IMAP over SSH with your Mutt > > mailboxes. That is, you can ssh into your mail server and run imapd > > locally (rather than

Re: File locking on sshfs file system, possible?

2019-10-28 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 01:31:57PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 08:58:06AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > I just tried running mutt 'remotely' by mounting ~/.muttrc and my main > > mail directory ~/Mail using sshfs and running a local copy of mutt. > > This makes handling

Re: File locking on sshfs file system, possible?

2019-10-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 08:58:06AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > I just tried running mutt 'remotely' by mounting ~/.muttrc and my main > mail directory ~/Mail using sshfs and running a local copy of mutt. > This makes handling attachments and HTML E-Mail much faster and easier > than running mutt