simple_search patterns
how do i engage the simple_search pattern? the manual states it it applied whenever regular expressions don't contain "~q" qualifiers, but simple strings like "fcc-save-hook "prolog" =prolog" don't work (with simple_search set to "~f %s | ~s %s | ~C %s"). -- clemens([EMAIL PROTECTED], pgp key available)
Re: hooks
On 2000-05-10 03:12:28 +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: AFAIK there is no fcc-hook. There is a fcc-save-hook which is a save-hook which also sets FCC to the given folder while sending mail. From the muttrc (5) manual page: save-hook [!]pattern filename When a message matches pattern, the default file name when saving it will be the given filename. fcc-hook [!]pattern filename When an outgoing message matches pattern, the default file name for storing a copy (fcc) will be the given filename. fcc-save-hook [!]pattern filename This command is an abbreviation for identical fcc- hook and save-hook commands. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: IMAP authentication
On 2000-05-09 16:14:26 -0500, Ben Beuchler wrote: Is this something I can configure without going to the whole SSL thing? That is something I'm going to look at in the future, but not just yet... Using mutt 1.2, of course... Try the --with-gss configuration option. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: mutt-1.2 pgpring readin fails
On 2000-05-09 14:58:50 -0700, Evan Vetere wrote: pub 1024 0xF012C714 1998-12-17 -- DSS Sign Encrypt sub 2048 0xE883D4B0 1998-12-17 -- Diffie-Hellman uid Matt Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] (that's to prove to you all that I really do have it in my keyring :) I suspect I am doing something shockingly stupid here. Not necessarily. Anyone? You have the pgpring program from the mutt distribution installed? What is the output of the following commands? pgpring -5 zebe pgpring -2 zebe Maybe pgpring just fails to find your public key ring. In this case you may wish to tell it about the real localtion of your key rings with the "-k" commmand line switch. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: [mutt-1.2] Broken world-writable /var/mail detection!
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 20:55:43 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: So why didn't you report it with all the details necessary to fix it? I did, but noone replied. See messages [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before, I thought that there was a problem with the mail server. But this time the mail server was OK, and there's no reason why configure detected /var/mail as not world-writable. And I still don't see why Mutt looks at /var/mail since in general, I don't use it (all my mail is stored to my $HOME directory). I'd say configure cannot guess how the MTA on your system is configured. Why not a --enable-dotlock option as I suggested? Or is it just your personal setup? Yes, it is my personal setup. Have you tried --with-mailpath=DIRDirectory where spool mailboxes are located What does mailpath do? There's nothing in the manual. Or have you any other suggestions how to fix this? Should configure maybe take $MAIL into account if other methods fail? It's difficult to say. Mutt could look at the $MAILPATH variable, and if it is empty, it could look at the $MAIL variable. But I don't think this is a good method, since mailboxes may be located in different directories; for instance, I used to have my personal mail in /var/mail/ and mailing-list mail in $HOME/Mail. Moreover, there could be transcient problems with the NFS servers. IMHO, Mutt should dynamically decide the locking method to use. Here, I'd like the following method: If dotclock can be used, it is chosen as the preferred locking method. Otherwise, fcntl is used. I prefer dotlock, because it is faster than fcntl under NFS. Of course, I could use Maildir instead of the mbox format, but procmail doesn't support Maildir directly, and as I'm not the sysadmin, I prefer to use as few programs as possible (I had problems in the past with OS or even machine changes). -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Computer science / computer arithmetic / Arénaire project at LIP, ENS-Lyon
Re: Three question items
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 12:02:21PM -0700, Daniel Chetlin wrote: [...] Item two: I tend to edit my emails once or twice before sending. When I use textwidth in vim, it inserts newlines initially, so if I edit the text ends up looking very choppy (30 character lines, etc.) and it becomes a pain to re-join the broken lines. [...] I found reformatting in vi (vim, to be precise) is very easy when you simply mark all lines to be reformatted (visual mode) and then press 'gq'. Voilà - nicely formatted paragraph with lines in ideal length. HTH, Thomas -- - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.bigfoot.com/~kaytanICQ#: 15839919 "You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!"
Re: printf like sequences for folder_format
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 05:19:47PM +0200, Wilhelm Wienemann wrote: Hello Christian! On Tue, 09 May 2000, Christian Ordig wrote: I start mutt by calling "mutt -y" to see which of my folders has new mail. The format the folders are displayed isn't really what I want... I am not really interested in permissions or owner of the folders, but more in how many mails are in the folder and how many of them are unread... Maybe the '[n]frm' tool on your box will do what you want. nfrm Mail/mutt-user Well... I'd like to see it in mutt... externaly I could also hack together a short Perl script, to count the files in ~/Mail/mutt-users/new and ~/Mail/mutt-users/cur add them together and show how many new mails and how many total mails are in this folder... but the point was, I wanna see it in the menu (called "browser"?) I get when starting mutt with command line "mutt -y" will show you how many *new* articles are in your mbox $HOME/Mail/mutt-user and well... I don't use any mbox style folders ... -- Christian Ordig | Homepage: http://thor.prohosting.com/~chrordig/ Germany |eMail: Christian Ordig [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: printf like sequences for folder_format
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:53:05PM +0200, Gero Treuner wrote: Hi! I know this would user quite a lot of time parsing the folders, but since I am using Maildir style eMail folders this would be speeded up quite much. Is there any way to achieve this? The docs only tell me about the folder- permission and owner stuff for the folder_format setting. You have a point here, and that could be a killer feature for mbox format ;-) right... but who really uses mbox when it comes to have more than 1000 or 2000 messages in a folder? On the other hand nobody would be forced switching it on... ;_) Unfortunately it is still waiting to be implemented. Write me if you need pointers where to start in the mutt sources. Maybe this is the wrong mailing list for discussing this... I think the mutt-devel list would fit better... How about the traffic on this list? (I only have a MODEM ;-) I'd be glad about any hint... Thanks -- Christian Ordig | Homepage: http://thor.prohosting.com/~chrordig/ Germany |eMail: Christian Ordig [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: using Mutt with xbiff?
That's not what I'm seeing - my xbiff notification flag goes down as soon as mutt(not me) see's that there's new mail. What you describe is what I want(I want the xbiff flag to stay up until *I* read the new mail), but I'm not sure what's wrong or different about my setup. I have procmail set to send ALL my email to a file on my local machine - and I have "set spoolfile" set to that file. Any idea what I may not have set up right? I don't know if this is related or not, but I use an "epplet" for Enlightenment that watches my mail file... Tells me how many new vs total messages I have. It seems to work fine... It will show new messages before Mutt does for a couple of reasons: 1) it watches /var/mail/whatever 2) it updates every few seconds (mutt only updates every minute or two) 3) I use (mailbox format noted in # 1). Is that "mailbox" vs mbox or maildir ??? Are you by chance using mutt's "pop mail" functions ?? Can't mutt do similar to what fetchmail does as far as retreiving, deleting, etc mail ?? Regards Hall
Re: [mutt-1.2] Broken world-writable /var/mail detection!
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 04:14:11PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Why broken? Do you mean that NFS is broken? *grin* That's a different story. What I meant is the fact that the use of differnet locking methods depending on where a file resides brings additional complexity to a system, and essentially is a desaster waiting to happen when the locking methods and the selection between them have to be implemented in multiple programs. a simple delivery agent by Dave de Simmone (I think) is in the contrib/ area of the FTP site. It should even be possible to write one in your favorite shell scripting language, or even in perl. I said I prefer not to use an additional program, because of problems in the past, but if I can use procmail only, this is OK... These problems where why I pointed out the interpreted language variations to you, which should continue to work even when the system is upgraded. ;-)
Re: [sureshr@staff.juno.com: [LIH] HELP: Weird date format in mutt 0.95.4i]
Mrinal Kalakrishnan saw fit to inform me that: My friend has a problem with an old Mutt version (0.95.4i), our timezone is +0530, but it displays it as +051800. Other than updating mutt, is there any fix for this? It is a mutt bug afaict. The mutt changelog has a note from Roessler to that effect. Update is the only solution :) Thanks, Mrinal. -s [who is missing the 1.1.14i installed on his home box] -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com
Re: 'Abort unmodified message? ([y]/n):?
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 06:22:06PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Mikko Hänninen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kelly Scroggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 09 May 2000: editor="vim -c "set tw=72" +1" set editor="vim -c 'set tw=72' +1" When I remove the double quoutes from the middle statement I get an error msg telling me there's an error on that line and it points to the 'tw'. So that didn't work. Don't remove them, change them to single quotes. Better yet, just for testing, try the simple: I didn't remove them. I replaced them. sorry, poor choice of words. Ok.. I've watched this thread FAR too long... (Although last time i de-lurked, I put my foot in my mouth, so take this with a grain of salt) what about putting something like this in your .vimrc: au BufEnter /tmp/mutt-*-*-* set tw=72 and keeping editor line nice and simple.. or am i missing something obvious? Ben -- Benjamin Korvemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't remember if I'm the good twin or the evil one.
Re: [mutt-1.2] Broken world-writable /var/mail detection!
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 04:14:11PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: My personal suggestion would be to use maildir folders This is what I'll do for incoming mailboxes. Russell Hoover told me that according to procmail.org, procmail now supports the maildir mailbox format. Yes, it does, I'm using it now for filtering to maildir mailboxes. You need version 3.14 at least, there's a bug in the maildir handling in 3.14 that's fixed by the latest beta. The bug will only affect you if you install procmail as root to use as the system's MDA (I think), if you have a local copy of procmail for your own use then 3.14 will be OK. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: [mutt-1.2] Broken world-writable /var/mail detection!
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 12:37:45 +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: Not currently. (Actually, systems which require the use of different locking mechanisms for different kinds of mail folders sound a bit broken to me.) Why broken? Do you mean that NFS is broken? It seems logical to use a faster (and sufficient) locking mechanism for the mailboxes I only use locally. My personal suggestion would be to use maildir folders This is what I'll do for incoming mailboxes. Russell Hoover told me that according to procmail.org, procmail now supports the maildir mailbox format. a simple delivery agent by Dave de Simmone (I think) is in the contrib/ area of the FTP site. It should even be possible to write one in your favorite shell scripting language, or even in perl. I said I prefer not to use an additional program, because of problems in the past, but if I can use procmail only, this is OK... -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Computer science / computer arithmetic / Arénaire project at LIP, ENS-Lyon
Re: Problems to compile mutt with mutt_dotlock
2000-05-10-18:37:40 Wilhelm Wienemann:
%build
CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS -DDL_STANDALONE"
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-compressed --with-mixmaster
--with-charmaps=/usr/share/i18n/charmaps --sysconfdir=%{prefix}/etc
make keymap_defs.h
make mutt_dotlock
I didn't see that problem. Built an rpm just a little
ago on Red Hat 6.2beta.
I have a somewhat different set of options in my configure. I attach
my spec file.
-Bennett
Name: mutt
Version: 1.2i
Release: 1
Source: ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/mutt-%{version}.tar.gz
Group: Applications/Mail
License: GPL
Summary: The Mutt Mail User Agent
BuildRoot: /var/tmp/%{name}-rpmroot
%description
Mutt is a small but very powerful full-screen Unix mail client. Features
include MIME, POP3, multiple mailbox formats, colour, message threading,
scoring, and bindable keys.
This is the International version of mutt *with* PGP support.
%prep
%setup -n mutt-1.2
%build
./configure --prefix=/usr \
--enable-pop \
--enable-imap \
--with-ssl
make keymap_defs.h
make
%install
mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/{bin,etc,man/man1,share/mutt,doc/mutt-%{version}}
make prefix=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr docdir=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/doc/mutt install
find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f|xargs file|awk -F: '/not stripped/{print $1}'|xargs strip
%changelog
* Wed May 10 2000 Bennett Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Initial wrap
%files
%defattr(-,root,root)
/usr/bin/*
%doc /usr/man/man*/*
%doc /usr/doc/mutt
/usr/share/*
%config /usr/etc/*
PGP signature
Re: mutt-1.2 pgpring readin fails
Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2000.05.10 00.54]: Maybe pgpring just fails to find your public key ring. Nope, pgpring isn't installed; there we go. I'll flog my admin. Thanks much. -- - Evan Vetere [EMAIL PROTECTED] | B6B0 5F71 FE5E 0607 4E52 CEAC 1839 2E77 9C35 A263 PGP signature
Re: printf like sequences for folder_format
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 06:50:56PM +0200, Christian Ordig wrote: You have a point here, and that could be a killer feature for mbox format ;-) right... but who really uses mbox when it comes to have more than 1000 or 2000 messages in a folder? I do. I've tried Maildirs and found them to be slower to open (about twice for the first time and only very slightly slower when everything is in the cache), bigger (a single folder with 3100 messages took 13 Mb in mbox, and 21 Mb in Maildir format -- on ext2 fs with 4K blocks), and less convenient (no progress indication while opening and no line counting). Perhaps I'll switch to Maildir when I'll start using Reiserfs (or NFS). Marius Gedminas -- Favourite MS-DOS error message: "Drive C: not ready, close door."
Re: hooks
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 08:51:41AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 2000-05-10 03:12:28 +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: AFAIK there is no fcc-hook. There is a fcc-save-hook which is a save-hook which also sets FCC to the given folder while sending mail. From the muttrc (5) manual page: save-hook [!]pattern filename When a message matches pattern, the default file name when saving it will be the given filename. fcc-hook [!]pattern filename When an outgoing message matches pattern, the default file name for storing a copy (fcc) will be the given filename. fcc-save-hook [!]pattern filename This command is an abbreviation for identical fcc- hook and save-hook commands. Ok, I surrender ;-) It's nice, you can always lern new stuff about mutt. Michael -- Go away! Stop bothering me with all your "compute this ... compute that"! I'm taking a VAX-NAP. PGP-fingerprint: DECA E9D2 EBDD 0FE0 0A65 40FA 5967 ACA1 0B57 7C13
Re: [mutt-1.2] Broken world-writable /var/mail detection!
On 2000-05-10 19:10:38 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i switched from mailbox to maildir i used the formail-prgram, which is a versatile little mail-message formatter from the procmail suite: If all you want to do is changing folder formats, mutt itself will be a nice tool. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Where does '?' take you - how to change it?
How does mutt decide what you get displayed in the browser when you
enter a '?' after a 'c' or an 's'?
I would like to be able to save to a remote IMAP folder by browsing to
the required folder but I can't find a way of getting to see the IMAP
server's directory when issuing the 's' command.
By default if i hit 's' followed by '?' I get the local folder
hierarchy. Even if I do a 'set folder={x-1.net}INBOX.' and then do
the 's' and '?' I *still* get the local folder hierarchy in the
browser. Is there any variable I can set to tell the browser to start
somewhere else?
I have found one way but it seems a bit clumsy, if I do a 'set
folder={x-1.net}' then hit 's', delete the the default = that
appears, enter TAB then CR I get to the remote IMAP folder and can
browse. The browser is then 'stuck' on the remote IMAP until I enter a
specific local folder to get back to. 'set folder=~/Mail' doesn't
seem to get me back.
A mutt variable to set the 'root' for browsing would be very useful!
--
Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
mutt-1.2: imap/ssl certificates
Hi, I've troubles with the imap ssl certificates, saved in the file certificate_file, which I set to ~/.mutt.certificate_file in my ~/.muttrc. If I do so, I can accept a certificate not only once but always (otherwise this option isn't available). The certificate is stored in the file ~/.mutt.certificate_file. But next time I start mutt again, it asks me again for the certificate check. If I accept it again, the certificate is again added to the file ~/.mutt.certificate_file and it is exactly the same like before -- now stored twice in the same file. How can I store the certificate that way, that mutt acceptes it automatically next time -- what's wrong in the way I'm doing it? André -- by _ _ _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ \/ ) http://www.physik.uni-augsburg.de/~wobsta/ / _ \ \/\/ / "In a world without walls and fences (_/ \_)_/\_/who needs windows and gates ...?!?"
Re: Three question items
* Thomas Ribbrock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000510 06:25]: On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 12:02:21PM -0700, Daniel Chetlin wrote: [...] Item two: I tend to edit my emails once or twice before sending. When I use textwidth in vim, it inserts newlines initially, so if I edit the text ends up looking very choppy (30 character lines, etc.) and it becomes a pain to re-join the broken lines. [...] I found reformatting in vi (vim, to be precise) is very easy when you simply mark all lines to be reformatted (visual mode) and then press 'gq'. Voilà - nicely formatted paragraph with lines in ideal length. I have this line: map F10 gqap in my .vimrc file and it works great. Simply move to the begining of the paragraph you want to re-format, hit "F10" and it tidies it up. Hall
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.2 is out.
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 05:42:35PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: Mutt-1.2 has been released under Just a little point for the docs: Within INSTALL there is a reference to the devel list. I think it is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not an .edu address. Thanks a lot for the new release. I will try it... Frank
Re: [mutt-1.2] Broken world-writable /var/mail detection!
Thomas Roessler (Wed 10.0500-12:37):
My personal suggestion would be to use maildir folders - a
simple delivery agent by Dave de Simmone (I think) is in
the contrib/ area of the FTP site. It should even be
possible to write one in your favorite shell scripting
language, or even in perl.
when i switched from mailbox to maildir i used the formail-prgram, which is
a versatile little mail-message formatter from the procmail suite:
for (i=mbox_files*) {formail -ds /var/qmail/bin/sendmail $i}
(script for the es-shell, mta=qmail)
--
clemens([EMAIL PROTECTED], pgp key available)
Re: [mutt-1.2] Broken world-writable /var/mail detection!
On 2000-05-10 10:59:10 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: I thought it was reliable. I've been using the dotlock method (only) for years and AFAIK, I've never had any mailbox corruption when it was enabled. Maybe certain caching mechanisms are disabled where you use mutt. However, we have had reports about substantial mail loss which were related to locking problems and NFS caching. You really want to invalidate caches, which can't be done by dotlocking files. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: [mutt-1.2] Broken world-writable /var/mail detection!
On 2000-05-10 09:30:08 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: I prefer dotlock, because it is faster than fcntl under NFS. Of course, this gain of speed comes at the cost of minimized reliability. You don't want to do dotlocking via NFS. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: [mutt-1.2] Broken world-writable /var/mail detection!
On 2000-05-10 12:05:03 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Well, can I use a locking mechanism with incoming mailboxes (fcntl) and another locking mechanism (dotlock) with other mailboxes? Not currently. (Actually, systems which require the use of different locking mechanisms for different kinds of mail folders sound a bit broken to me.) My personal suggestion would be to use maildir folders - a simple delivery agent by Dave de Simmone (I think) is in the contrib/ area of the FTP site. It should even be possible to write one in your favorite shell scripting language, or even in perl. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
IMAP Problems
I have soem problems with IMAP in mutt 1.2 Everything seems to be working fine until I try to exit. If I choose to move things to my mbox, mutt displays "fetching message." for a long time, then errors out and quits. Then when I open it back up, all of my messages are in my inbox twice. I am running it on Solaris 2.7 If anyone has a suggestion, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Dave David S. Glaser AKA Grizz | MM Systems Administrator | Somedays it just isn't worth struggling out U201 MME Building | of the straight jacket in the morning. Houghton, MI 49931 | - unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
IMAP Problems
I have some problems with IMAP in mutt 1.2 Everything seems to be working fine until I try to exit. If I choose to move things to my mbox, mutt displays "fetching message." for a long time, then errors out and quits. Then when I open it back up, all of my messages are in my inbox twice. I am running it on Solaris 2.7 If anyone has a suggestion, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Dave David S. Glaser AKA Grizz | MM Systems Administrator | Somedays it just isn't worth struggling out U201 MME Building | of the straight jacket in the morning. Houghton, MI 49931 | - unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: [mutt-1.2] Broken world-writable /var/mail detection!
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 09:49:03 +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: Of course, this gain of speed comes at the cost of minimized reliability. You don't want to do dotlocking via NFS. I thought it was reliable. I've been using the dotlock method (only) for years and AFAIK, I've never had any mailbox corruption when it was enabled. Otherwise isn't there an asymmetric locking mechanism, that would be very fast on one side (e.g. my local machine) and could be slower on the other side (the mail server)? -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Computer science / computer arithmetic / Arénaire project at LIP, ENS-Lyon
MIME
I'm trying to get mutt use MIME to open attachments like M$ Word and M$ Excel using StarOffice. Can somene point me to a good recource on setting my mutt MIME. thanks
Re: mime types when attaching files not working
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 12:35:51PM -0500, Carlos Puchol wrote: hi, it appears i the setting of proper mime types does not work when attaching files. i am attaching two files a ps file and a gif file. you will see that one comes out as text/plain and the other as applica/octet-stream. i have tried with all ~/.mutt* files removed . mine is a regular redhat 6.2 installation. further it seems like all the settings are ok in the /etc/mime.types file: I just found this a few days ago helping a friend. Red Hat's mutt build is broken (because they don't use the BuildRoot functionality correctly when compiling their RPM). SHAREDIR="/var/tmp/mutt-root/etc" SYSCONFDIR="/var/tmp/mutt-root/etc" This is the evidence of that.
