Re: muttzilla on freebsd

2000-10-11 Thread Brian D. Winters

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 04:04:13PM -0700, Peter Jaques wrote:
 has anyone gotten muttzilla working on freebsd? when i click a mailto link
 now, nothing at all happens, not even console complaints from netscape.

First off, muttzilla now has its own mailing list:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

Secondly, yes, I have received several reports of success using
muttzilla under freebsd.  I don't have any more specific info, though.
(It didn't sound like any major changes were required.)  Have you
followed INSTALL faithfully?  If not, go back to the beginning and try
again.  If so, I guess the next thing to check is which version of
Netscape you are running.  Some are known to have problems (see
ERRATA).

Brian



Re: mutt and qmail: child exited 127

2000-10-11 Thread Anil Madhavapeddy

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 11:29:30PM +0200, Horacio MG wrote:
  hmmm ...
  
  i've had problems with this when mutt was using the wrong sendmail
  binary (= or i've forgotten to replace the OEM sendmail with a link to
  qmail's sendmail binary. make sure that /usr/sbin/sendmail is a link
  to /var/qmail/bin/sendmail (or whereever you installed qmail) and
  try again.
 
 Both /usr/sbin/sendmail and /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail are symlinks
 to /var/qmail/bin/sendmail
 

If you are running OpenBSD 2.7, then you shouldn't replace
/usr/sbin/sendmail, as it will get overwritten the next time
you upgrade it with a 'make build' from source.

Instead, place relevant entries in /etc/mailer.conf to
point the sendmail wrapper (mailwrapper) to the correct
place for qmail.

This could be the cause of your exec problem.  Check that
the symlinks are in place, and if not, read mailer.conf(5)

I use the following /etc/mailer.conf on OpenBSD-current:
sendmail/var/qmail/bin/sendmail
send-mail   /var/qmail/bin/sendmail
mailq   /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread
newaliases  /usr/bin/true
hoststat/usr/bin/true
purgestat   /usr/bin/true

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Re: muttzilla on freebsd

2000-10-11 Thread Morten Liebach

On 10, Oct, 2000 at 04:04:13PM -0700, Peter Jaques wrote:
 has anyone gotten muttzilla working on freebsd? when i click a mailto link
 now, nothing at all happens, not even console complaints from netscape.

On OpenBSD I couldn't make it compile at all, so ... you're better of I
think, but I'd sure like to know more about it.

ML

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] new version of mutt_ldap_query script

2000-10-11 Thread Marc de Courville

According to Brian Salter-Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] (on 10/10/00):
 On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 01:39:51PM +0200, Marc de Courville wrote:
  Dear all,
  
  please find attached to this email the new version of mutt_ldap_query
  perl script that performs ldap queries for mutt.
  The distribution now includes a module for interfacing with little
  brother database (m_ldap).
  
  Enjoy!
  
 Why not submit the m_ldap module to Roland for inclusion in the lbdb
 tarball? I suggest altering:-

as mentioned Roland, I already did propose this module.
But as underlined, it deserve more thinking and work to have a clean 
and easy user configuration.

I will work on it as soon as I have some time.

Thanks for the remark BTW.

Kind regards,
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Re: Mutt and vim enhancment

2000-10-11 Thread Peter Solodov

Hi.

I've change a function a little. Now it takes only name of recipient (if it's
there) and its address otherwise. If there are multiple recipients in To:
field, it takes only first one (the title string can be too long).

function M_settitle()
let i = 1
let line = getline(i)
while (match(line, "To:") == -1  line != "")
let i = i + 1
let line = getline(i)
endwhile
if (line != "")
let i = match(line, " ")
let j = match(line, "") - 1
if j == -2
let j = match(line, ",")
endif
if j == -1
let j = strlen(line)
endif
let len = j - i
let address = strpart(line, i, len)
let title = "Mail to " . address
let title = substitute(title, " ", " ", "g")
execute 'set titlestring=' . title
execute 'set iconstring=' . title
execute 'set titleold=Mutt'
endif
endfunc

Also note that is assumes that you have 

set edit_headers

in your .muttrc

Peter.



Re: gpg.rc: --textmode

2000-10-11 Thread a . schlatter

Hi there

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 01:38:40PM -0400, Bob Bell wrote:

AS What is the '--textmode' for? The (gpg) manual page gives an explanation
AS for '-t' but not really for '--textmode'.

 -t and --textmode are roughly equivalent, as stated in my man page
 (v1.03).
 
 -t, --textmode
 Use canonical text mode.  If -t (but not --textmode) is used
 together with armoring and signing, this enables clearsigned mes-
 sages. This kludge is needed for PGP compatibility; normally you
 would use --sign or --clearsign to selected the type of the sig-
 nature.


Right, but what does happen when I use --textmode (not -t) together with
armoring and signing? The only information I can gather from the man page is
"Use canonical text mode". But what does that mean?


Adrian Schlatter
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Enough research will tend to support your theory.



multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread the/eXtreme

Hey, sometimes I shell out of a mutt window,
forget where I am (easy, when you're me),
and start another mutt session.  Days can go
by before I catch the duplicated sessions.

I could use a shell script to `ps' for existing
mutt sessions before launching another session;
or is there a better way?

TIA/x



reverse_name and alternates

2000-10-11 Thread Dan Boger

what am I doing wrong?

I have the following set:

set alternates = 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|dboger@.*.bgu.ac.il
set reverse_name

and yet, when I get mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and try to reply to it, the reply
has the default of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  what am I missing?

:)

Dan

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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Mikko Hänninen

the/eXtreme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 11 Oct 2000:
 I could use a shell script to `ps' for existing
 mutt sessions before launching another session;
 or is there a better way?

How about a shell script that looks (vaguely) like this:

#!/bin/sh
LOCKFILE=~/.mutt.lock
if [ -f $LOCKFILE ]; then
  echo "Another Mutt session is already running ($LOCKFILE exists)"
  exit 1
else
  touch $LOCKFILE
  mutt $*
  rm $LOCKFILE
fi


... That's untested, I just typed it in, but hopefully it will work.
At the very least, with minor tweaking.


Hope this helps,
Mikko
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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

the/eXtreme proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 I could use a shell script to `ps' for existing
 mutt sessions before launching another session;
 or is there a better way?

That is the best way ;)

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-- Dom Perignon, upon discovering champagne.



Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Bruce DeVisser

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:49:40AM -0500, the/eXtreme wrote:
 Hey, sometimes I shell out of a mutt window,
 forget where I am (easy, when you're me),
 and start another mutt session.  Days can go
 by before I catch the duplicated sessions.
 
 I could use a shell script to `ps' for existing
 mutt sessions before launching another session;
 or is there a better way?

Assuming for the sake of this example a bash shell:

You could create a .muttbashrc file which, after sourcing your regular
rc file, says
PS1="mutt-shell: "
and then in mutt (or your .muttrc)
:set shell="/bin/bash -rcfile /home/username/.muttbashrc"

But if you open more subshells, you're on your own. :)

-- 
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Re: reverse_name and alternates

2000-10-11 Thread Dan Boger

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 08:16:15PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
 Are you using "my_hdr From", perhaps?  "my_hdr From" is incompatible
 (sort of) with $reverse_name.

sure enough, that was it.  Once I changed from

send-hook . 'my_hdr From...' 

to

send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From'

it works :)  Thanks!

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MSA?

2000-10-11 Thread Todd Holloway


Can mutt use a MSA (mail submission agent)?
If not are there currently plans to or should
I submit a feature request (and if so how to I
properly submit a feature request)?

thanks,
Todd "Pier" Holloway

--
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Re: MSA?

2000-10-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:57:06AM -0700, Todd Holloway wrote:
 
 Can mutt use a MSA (mail submission agent)?

Of course. Now, mutt invokes sendmail -- I see no reason why it shouldn't be
able to call an MSA instead. You can even specify HOW mutt should call
sendmail /qmail, whatever)

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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread the/eXtreme

-: LOCKFILE=~/.mutt.lock

Does a lock file exist for IMAP-configured mutt?  When I
have a mutt session up, I can't find a lock file anywhere.

Do I need to be concerned with the `dotlock_program'
configuration variable?  My configuration and build
of mutt-1.2.5 didn't create a `mutt_dotlock' binary.

TIA



Re: MSA?

2000-10-11 Thread Lutz Jaenicke

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 09:14:14PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:57:06AM -0700, Todd Holloway wrote:
  
  Can mutt use a MSA (mail submission agent)?
 
 Of course. Now, mutt invokes sendmail -- I see no reason why it shouldn't be
 able to call an MSA instead. You can even specify HOW mutt should call
 sendmail /qmail, whatever)

Probably not. MSA (mail submission agent) refers to RFC2476. It specifies
an interface very similar to SMTP on a different port (587), especially
intented to allow email submission from MUAs e.g. with authentication.
On port 25 you should run a normal SMTP server to receive incoming mails.
On port 587 you may run a submission server with client authentication
enabled to allow relaying for your customers/personell etc.

As mutt does not support SMTP (and support for SMTP is not intended),
it also does not support submission as of RFC2476.

Best regards,
Lutz
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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Conor Daly

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:30:07PM -0500 or thereabouts, the/eXtreme wrote:
 -: LOCKFILE=~/.mutt.lock
 
 Does a lock file exist for IMAP-configured mutt?  When I
 have a mutt session up, I can't find a lock file anywhere.
 
 Do I need to be concerned with the `dotlock_program'
 configuration variable?  My configuration and build
 of mutt-1.2.5 didn't create a `mutt_dotlock' binary.
 
 TIA

You'll notice the previous post includes the line

touch $LOCKFILE

This will create such a lockfile when you run the script.  mutt does not
create a lockfile by default.

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Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275




Re: MSA?

2000-10-11 Thread Jeremy Blosser

Lutz Jaenicke [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 09:14:14PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:57:06AM -0700, Todd Holloway wrote:
   
   Can mutt use a MSA (mail submission agent)?
  
  Of course. Now, mutt invokes sendmail -- I see no reason why it shouldn't be
  able to call an MSA instead. You can even specify HOW mutt should call
  sendmail /qmail, whatever)
 
 Probably not. MSA (mail submission agent) refers to RFC2476. It specifies
 an interface very similar to SMTP on a different port (587), especially
 intented to allow email submission from MUAs e.g. with authentication.
 On port 25 you should run a normal SMTP server to receive incoming mails.
 On port 587 you may run a submission server with client authentication
 enabled to allow relaying for your customers/personell etc.
 
 As mutt does not support SMTP (and support for SMTP is not intended),
 it also does not support submission as of RFC2476.

By the same token, though, there is nothing to *prevent* Mutt from making
use of an *external* MSA.  In short, it (currently) supports this mechanism
just as well as it supports regular SMTP or any other sending protocol: not
at all directly, but if you have a program to use for this protocol, you
should be able to use Mutt with it.

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Re: MSA?

2000-10-11 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-10-11 21:41:38 +0200, Lutz Jaenicke wrote:

   Can mutt use a MSA (mail submission agent)?

 Probably not. MSA (mail submission agent) refers to RFC2476. It specifies
 an interface very similar to SMTP on a different port (587), especially
 intented to allow email submission from MUAs e.g. with authentication.
 On port 25 you should run a normal SMTP server to receive incoming mails.
 On port 587 you may run a submission server with client authentication
 enabled to allow relaying for your customers/personell etc.

 As mutt does not support SMTP (and support for SMTP is not intended),
 it also does not support submission as of RFC2476.

Mutt cannot ACT as a mail submission agent in the sense of RFC 2476,
but it can USE an external MSA.

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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread the/eXtreme

-: You'll notice the previous post includes the line
-: 
-: touch $LOCKFILE

Yes, silly of me.  It also helps if the luser starts
the *first* mutt session using the script.  Duh.



Mutt in batch mode

2000-10-11 Thread Jean-Paul Laberge

Hi,

I'd like to know how to use 'mutt' in batch mode, without a user
intervention.  I use the following command:

mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca

but I'm always going in the user interface.

Is it possible to do it?  And, if yes, do you know how to do it?

Thanks

Jean-Paul Laberge








Re: Mutt in batch mode

2000-10-11 Thread Michael Elkins

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 04:44:56PM -0400, Jean-Paul Laberge wrote:
 I'd like to know how to use 'mutt' in batch mode, without a user
 intervention.  I use the following command:
 
 mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca
 
 but I'm always going in the user interface.
 
 Is it possible to do it?  And, if yes, do you know how to do it?

You're very close.  Just redirect stdin from a file or a pipe as such:

mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca  /dev/null

or

cat prepared-file | mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca

me

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Re: Mutt in batch mode

2000-10-11 Thread Nollaig MacKenzie


On 2000.10.11 16:44:56, you,
 the extraordinary Jean-Paul Laberge, opined:

 Hi,
 
 I'd like to know how to use 'mutt' in batch mode, without a user
 intervention.  I use the following command:
 
 mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca
 
 but I'm always going in the user interface.
 
 Is it possible to do it?  And, if yes, do you know how to do it?
 
Just one more little thing: give mutt a stream
of characters (I guess that's how to put it):

mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca body.txt

or

echo "hey"|mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca

Cheers, N.

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Re: Mutt in batch mode

2000-10-11 Thread Jeremy Blosser

Jean-Paul Laberge [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 I'd like to know how to use 'mutt' in batch mode, without a user
 intervention.  I use the following command:
 
 mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca
 
 but I'm always going in the user interface.

Almost right, use:

mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca /dev/null

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Re: Mutt in batch mode

2000-10-11 Thread Tommi Komulainen

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 04:44:56PM -0400, Jean-Paul Laberge wrote:
 I'd like to know how to use 'mutt' in batch mode, without a user
 intervention.  I use the following command:
 
 mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca
 
 but I'm always going in the user interface.
 
 Is it possible to do it?  And, if yes, do you know how to do it?

It is possible, just pass the message body (or /dev/null if none) to
standard input.

This ought to be in the FAQ:

mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca /dev/null


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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Conor Daly

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 03:33:06PM -0500 or thereabouts, the/eXtreme wrote:
 -: You'll notice the previous post includes the line
 -: 
 -: touch $LOCKFILE
 
 Yes, silly of me.  It also helps if the luser starts
 the *first* mutt session using the script.  Duh.

Time of day, Time of day...
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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Brian Salter-Duke

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 08:19:24PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
 the/eXtreme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 11 Oct 2000:
  I could use a shell script to `ps' for existing
  mutt sessions before launching another session;
  or is there a better way?
 
 How about a shell script that looks (vaguely) like this:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 LOCKFILE=~/.mutt.lock
 if [ -f $LOCKFILE ]; then
   echo "Another Mutt session is already running ($LOCKFILE exists)"
   exit 1
 else
   touch $LOCKFILE
   mutt $*
   rm $LOCKFILE
 fi
 
 
 ... That's untested, I just typed it in, but hopefully it will work.
 At the very least, with minor tweaking.

This is the ps solution that I use all the time. I and Rob Reid
developed this some time ago. I call the mutt exectuable realmutt, this
script muttwrap and alias 'mutt' to 'muttwrap -y'.

I know you can open several mutts and write in all of them, but I prefer
to open the 2nd in readonly to remind me that I really did not want to
do it in most cases and if I did it could be in readonly mode.
 
#!/usr/bin/sh
if ps -U $LOGNAME | grep realmutt  /dev/null 
then
echo Warning: You are already running Mutt.
echo Starting mutt in readonly mode.
sleep 2 # Or however many seconds you need to read the
# message before mutt starts.
/usr/local/bin/realmutt -R $*
else
echo Starting Mutt OK
sleep 2
/usr/local/bin/realmutt $*
fi

Cheers, Brian.

 
 Hope this helps,
 Mikko
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Re: Disabling encryption on saved copies of outgoing.

2000-10-11 Thread Nollaig MacKenzie


On 2000.10.11 13:19:22, you,
 the extraordinary raf, opined:

 Nollaig MacKenzie wrote:
 
snip!
  
  Am I right in thinking that the message Bcc-ed to
  myself is encrypted quite independently of the
  message "To: " whoever (and vice-versa, which is
  what actually matters)?
  
  Cheers, N.
 
 no, but the solution is trivial. create an "anonymous" secret/public key
 pair for use when sending anonymous mail. it doesn't matter if people can
 see that a message was encrypted to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 and they can't locate the "public" key because you've hidden it under a
 rock

Cool. Thanks! I made it a little more complicated,
Bcc-ing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] encrypted,
and putting an entry in /etc/hosts:

my.ip.num.ber   go-fsck-youself.com

(I didn't actually use go-fsck-youself.com :-)

Cheers, N.

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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Bruce J.A. Nourish

 if ps -U $LOGNAME | grep realmutt  /dev/null 

Be careful about using grep to search the output of ps. For example

$ ps ax | grep lemming
16004 tty1 S  0:00 grep lemming

Y'see? Grep makes a match on its own process.

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Re: reverse_name and alternates

2000-10-11 Thread Bruce J.A. Nourish

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:01:41PM -0400, Dan Boger wrote:
 set alternates = 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|dboger@.*.bgu.ac.il

Just a note on your alternates regex... its rather wordy. Try:

set alternates = 
"dan@((xif|wwind|peeron)\.com|wamaltc\.org|giccs\.georgetown\.edu)|dboger@(wwind.com|.*\.bgu\.ac.il)"

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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Brian Salter-Duke

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 04:38:31PM -0700, Bruce J.A. Nourish wrote:
  if ps -U $LOGNAME | grep realmutt  /dev/null 
 
 Be careful about using grep to search the output of ps. For example
 
 $ ps ax | grep lemming
 16004 tty1 S  0:00 grep lemming
 
 Y'see? Grep makes a match on its own process.

It works OK on AIX 3.2.5 ps. If you add the -f flag it finds the grep
line, but it does'nt without it.

OK, so maybe my script does'nt work on all systems, but it is worth
playing with to see if some set of ps flags works as required.

Cheers, Brian.
 
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Wildcards in the mailboxes command?

2000-10-11 Thread Aaron Lehmann

Hi,

I'm subscribed to many mailing lists and I love the idea of mutt
telling me which mailboxes have new mail. However, that would make the
mailboxes line be yet another list of subscriptions that I would have
to keep up to date. What I really want to do is something like:
mailboxes ! =*
Is it possible to do this? If not, consider it a feature request. :)

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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Aaron Schrab

At 09:23 +0930 12 Oct 2000, Brian Salter-Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 04:38:31PM -0700, Bruce J.A. Nourish wrote:
   if ps -U $LOGNAME | grep realmutt  /dev/null 
  
  Be careful about using grep to search the output of ps. For example
  
  $ ps ax | grep lemming
  16004 tty1 S  0:00 grep lemming
  
  Y'see? Grep makes a match on its own process.
 
 It works OK on AIX 3.2.5 ps. If you add the -f flag it finds the grep
 line, but it does'nt without it.
 
 OK, so maybe my script does'nt work on all systems, but it is worth
 playing with to see if some set of ps flags works as required.

Or you could just make a minor modification to the grep pattern:

  ps -U $LOGNAME | grep 'r[e]almutt'  /dev/null

That way grep won't be able to match itself.

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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Brian Salter-Duke

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 07:17:35PM -0500, Aaron Schrab wrote:
 At 09:23 +0930 12 Oct 2000, Brian Salter-Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 04:38:31PM -0700, Bruce J.A. Nourish wrote:
if ps -U $LOGNAME | grep realmutt  /dev/null 
   
   Be careful about using grep to search the output of ps. For example
   
   $ ps ax | grep lemming
   16004 tty1 S  0:00 grep lemming
   
   Y'see? Grep makes a match on its own process.
  
  It works OK on AIX 3.2.5 ps. If you add the -f flag it finds the grep
  line, but it does'nt without it.
  
  OK, so maybe my script does'nt work on all systems, but it is worth
  playing with to see if some set of ps flags works as required.
 
 Or you could just make a minor modification to the grep pattern:
 
   ps -U $LOGNAME | grep 'r[e]almutt'  /dev/null
 
 That way grep won't be able to match itself.

Clever! It works well.

Brian.
 
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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread raf

Jamie Novak wrote:

 On 10/11, Aaron Schrab rearranged the electrons to read:
 
  Or you could just make a minor modification to the grep pattern:
  
ps -U $LOGNAME | grep 'r[e]almutt'  /dev/null
  
  That way grep won't be able to match itself.
 
 You could also just do a:
 
 ps -U $LOGONAME | grep mutt | grep -v grep  /dev/null
 
 "grep -v" tells grep to ignore whatever pattern you specify there.
 I haven't tested this on many versions of grep, but I know it works
 under AIX, HP-UX and FreeBSD.  YMMV.
 
 - Jamie

but that would be a waste of a process.

raf




Re: Wildcards in the mailboxes command?

2000-10-11 Thread Aaron Lehmann

On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 02:32:31AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
 Hi Aaron!
 
 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Aaron Lehmann wrote:
 weasel@marvin:~$ grep mailboxes .mutt/muttrc 
 mailboxes /var/spool/mail/weasel `echo 
$HOME/.Mail/{IN,People*,Projects*,Debian*,Maillists*,Newsletters*,Cron*,Errors*,spam}`

Ahh...

mailboxes ! `cd ~/mail ; for x in * ; do echo -n '=' ; echo -n $x ' '; done`

Excelent! :-) 


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Re: multiple mutts

2000-10-11 Thread Bob Bell

On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:23:29AM +0930, Brian Salter-Duke 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Be careful about using grep to search the output of ps. For example
  
  $ ps ax | grep lemming
  16004 tty1 S  0:00 grep lemming
  
  Y'see? Grep makes a match on its own process.
 
 It works OK on AIX 3.2.5 ps. If you add the -f flag it finds the grep
 line, but it does'nt without it.
 
 OK, so maybe my script does'nt work on all systems, but it is worth
 playing with to see if some set of ps flags works as required.

I've been working a lot with ps in Tru64 UNIX and reading the Unix98
(Single Unix Spec V2) standards, and this is undefined behaviour.
Basically, ps takes a snapshot of the processes running at an instant in
time.  Depending on how it does this, and how the system manages
processes, the ps command itself may or may not show.  Some Unices will
even show it sometimes and not others.

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Re: Disabling encryption on saved copies of outgoing.

2000-10-11 Thread David T-G

Nollaig, et al --

...and then Nollaig MacKenzie said...
% 
% On 2000.10.10 21:45:14, you,
%  the extraordinary Mikko Hänninen, opined:

He is, indeed :-)


% 
%  Nollaig MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 10 Oct 2000:
%   Am I right in thinking that the message Bcc-ed to
...
%  
%  AFAIK, you're not right.  The sendmail (or equivalent) program gets
...
% 
% Quite right, as usual (just for that I'm going
% to make a sig asserting the superiority of the
% Dixie Chicks to the Corrs :-)

*grin*


% 
% The single message contains the info about both
% the keys used to encrypt, it seems. So I don't
% see any straightforward way around the original 
% problem.

It seems pretty simple to me...  Just create an additional public/private
pair and don't distribute the public key (or note any contact/identification 
in they key); if nobody has the public key, those 8 hex digits don't
really mean much...


% 
% Cheers, N.
% -- 
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% http://www.amhuinnsuidhe.cx


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Re: Wildcards in the mailboxes command?

2000-10-11 Thread David T-G

Aaron --

...and then Aaron Lehmann said...
% On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 02:32:31AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
%  Hi Aaron!
%  
%  On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Aaron Lehmann wrote:
%  weasel@marvin:~$ grep mailboxes .mutt/muttrc 
%  mailboxes /var/spool/mail/weasel `echo 
$HOME/.Mail/{IN,People*,Projects*,Debian*,Maillists*,Newsletters*,Cron*,Errors*,spam}`
% 
% Ahh...
% 
% mailboxes ! `cd ~/mail ; for x in * ; do echo -n '=' ; echo -n $x ' '; done`

Don't bother with all of that work, since = is just a shortcut for you
that mutt has to expand in the end.  Try something like

  mailboxes ! `echo ~/mail/*`

and watch it all work.  From my .mutt/muttrc file:

  mailboxes $MAIL `echo $HOME/Mail/F.*`

I suppose you can guess that my incoming mail is sorted into 'F'olders
named F.somethingorother :-)


% 
% Excelent! :-) 

Even better, I hope :-)  HTH  HAND


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