eff
sorry for the somewhat OT post, but i think it's relevant to many people on this list. i'm sure a number of people are already aware of these issues, but in case anyone isn't, i'd just like to urge everyone who's a us citizen to contact your senator and representative today or tomorrow regarding current legislation that may restrict our online freedom / privacy. the eff alert is at: http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010921_eff_wiretap_alert.html there's a letter there already which you can use / modify or base a message on, and there's information on finding your senator / representative. note that the action alert specifically suggests that non-us citizens writing about this issue may actually hinder, rather than help, the cause. they also link to this excellent article from '98 on why key escrow and other types of 'backdoors' and 'trapdoors' to encryption technology are bad. text: ftp://research.att.com/dist/mab/key_study.txt pdf: http://www.crypto.com/papers/escrowrisks98.pdf i know that many on this list use strong encryption technology on a frequent or daily basis, so i'd urge everyone to do what they can to protest this. i'm not generally a socially active person, but this is something that hits me very personally. w -- GPG Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/
maildir (was Re: macro help (was Re: rot13 capability?))
Piet -- ...and then Piet Delport said... % On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 at 23:15:44 -0400, David T-G wrote: % ...and then Jens Paulus said... % % On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 11:41:18PM +0200, Jens Paulus wrote: % % % to the mail separation From_ line in mbox format and inserts the % % quotation character itself automatically. I wonder if there is a way % % to % % Sure; switch to a mail folder format that doesn't require it. I hear % that maildir is good. % % I switched over to Maildir a few days ago, because i liked the idea of: Good for you! % % - Not having to worry with locking. % - One message per file, so less chance of catastrophic corruption. % Plus, i can go: % $ grep foo * | xargs rm % and such to process messages using shell commands. Neat. Yeah. That's a nice bonus. % - No From_ quoting or other such hacks involved. In fact, Maildir % doesn't seem to use From_ lines to begin with. It sure doesn't; that's an mbox thing. % % I can highly recommend Maildir so far. All that was involved in the % switch was: % % 1. Append a `/' to all folder names in my .procmailrc, as in: % :0: % * ^Delivered-to: mutt-users@ns\.gbnet\.net % in.mutt-users/ %This tells procmail to use Maildir. procmail didn't always understand maildir; IIRC, at around 3.14 someone wrote a patch to add maildir support, and the next version then supported it natively. When in doubt, upgrade or at least test. % % 2. Add `mbox_type=Maildir' to my muttrc. Not strictly required, as mutt %will auto-detect a mailbox's type, but mutt will make all new %mailboxes Maildir now. Yep. % % 3. Migrate my old mailboxes by renaming them to `foo.old', then going %into them and saving them all back to `foo', creating a Maildir in %the process. (Is there a more convenient way to do this?) Heh. Of course! http://www.qmail.org/mbox2maildir % % % From heaven to earth. % % From alpha to omega. % % As expected :-) % % Those showed up without 's here in the original message. :-) *grin* % % -- % Piet Delport [EMAIL PROTECTED] % Today's subliminal thought is: :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
Re: Blanks problem (was: mutt and screen: display problems)
On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 20:13:30 -0400, Matt Spong wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here, but when you start rxvt with -bg white, default will give you a white background... this is what it's supposed to do. That's why I don't want to use default. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: Problem with From_ line. Quotation character.
Jens -- ...and then Jens Paulus said... % David and others, % % On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 11:15:44PM -0400, David T-G wrote: % % to the mail separation From_ line in mbox format and inserts the % % quotation character itself automatically. I wonder if there is a way to % % Sure; switch to a mail folder format that doesn't require it. I hear % that maildir is good. % % Should I change to another format just because of that? Is there no It's your choice, but it *is* the answer to your question of is there a way to avoid that. You may find that you don't have to avoid that. You may also find that it doesn't really matter because you can't change everyone in the world (much though, I'm sure, the qmail and maildir supporters out there would like that ;-) and so it will continue to be that someone else will get your message with added chars; if that is what's important to you, then just make sure your paragraps work out so that there is no leading from_ on any line :-) If you simply don't want to see it on your end when someone else doesn't so manage a paragraph, then maildir is about it. There is, I think, an mbox-like format that obeys the Content-Length: header (or maybe notices it, or ???) which then doesn't require quoted from_ lines (see, I had to redo that :-) but 1) I don't recall much other than that and 2) it's still for format change. % other way to get around this thing? Do you use maildir yourself, too? I actually don't; I'm still an mbox user. It's what I know and to which am accustomed (my archiving methods are specific to mbox), and it works for me because I have no worries regarding disk sharing and locking and such. I probably should switch, but I haven't been pushed yet :-) % % BTW, David, allow me a another question: why do you use '%' as quotation % character? I think that's not the standard and, for example, mutt % doesn't recognize lines with leading '%' as quoted lines by default. It dates way back to my usenet days when I found the need to maintain some order in a thread umpteen replies deep. In fact, I use %_ because I find it more readable and more manageable than just . I've been using it since then, and while it isn't standard as defined by RFC, neither are lots of other quoting characters that folks use, so I don't feel too terrible :-) % % My current setting is that my mutt displays quoted lines in an other % color than the rest of the text. With you there is no coloring if I % don't change it artificially. Just expand your $quote_regexp a bit. Mine looks like set quote_regexp=^([ \t]*[%|:}#])+ which covers most quote chars I've seen. I particularly like the new $smileys variable which avoids false positives. % % -Jens % HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
Re: :set ?alternates to see how your $alternates are set
Bruno -- ...and then Bruno Postle said... % On Sat 22-Sep-2001 at 11:25:28PM -0400, David T-G wrote: % % Is there some equivalent to.. % % % % :bind index ?a ... % % How about just hitting the question mark (unless you've re-bound help % already)? % % I've been doing a bit of work with accessibility lately and I must have % started looking at applications in terms of an audio-only perspective. % The help menu is a Big List, quite different to being able to ask what % does this key do?. Hmmm... Yes, that's a good point. In that case, even ? followed by /^a doesn't help you too terribly much. That's how I go through the list myself, though. % % This is all irrelevant anyway, since I'm not aware of anyone using mutt % purely in audio. The help menu is fine and the ':set ?alternates' thing % is a cute trick to remember. Happy to help :-) % % Bruno % -- % http://bruno.postle.net/ :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
two commands one a single send-hook
How do I put these two commands into a single statement? send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'my_hdr X-currently-using: xalan saxon fop xep on linux' send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'set signature=echo -e Eric Smith\nSee mail headers for processors used|' -- Eric Smith
Re: HELP: iso chars display as hex nums....
Matìj Cepl muttered: On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 11:46:00PM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote: On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 07:46:49PM -0400, Mat?j Cepl wrote: Check variable ascii_chars and charset in your muuttrc. h #set ascii_chars set charset=iso-8859-1 is in my .muttrc, butthat's the setting wiht hex codes instead of iso chars... check your locals setting. I use charset=iso-8859-1 LANG=en_US LANGUAGE=en_US:en LC_COLLATE=en_US LC_CTYPE=en_US LC_MESSAGES=en_US LC_MONETARY=en_US LC_NUMERIC=en_US LC_TIME=en_US HTH, Michael -- There are no threads in a.b.p.erotica, so there's no gain in using a threaded news reader. (Unknown source) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: scores
Matthias LOITSCH muttered: why does the command ... : score '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -5 ... not work??? it always assignes 0 to the messages i have no problem with positive numbers. RTFM. See section 3.21. Usage: score pattern value value is a positive or negative integer. A message's final score is the sum total of all matching score entries. Negative final scores are rounded up to 0. To put it in a nutshell: You can use nagative score values and it DOES work. However, if the final score is negative it will round up to 0. HTH, Michael -- I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you. (By Vance Petree, Virginia Power) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: two commands one a single send-hook
Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 09/24/2001: How do I put these two commands into a single statement? send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'my_hdr X-currently-using: xalan saxon fop xep on linux' send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'set signature=echo -e Eric Smith\nSee mail headers for processors used|' Can you separate them with semi-colons? i.e., send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'set signature=echo -e Eric Smith\nSee mail headers for processors used|; my_hdr X-currently-using: xalan saxon fop xep on linux' (darren) -- Any technology indistinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
Re: two commands one a single send-hook
According to darren chamberlain on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 08:50:15AM -0400: | Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 09/24/2001: | How do I put these two commands into a single statement? | | send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'my_hdr X-currently-using: xalan saxon fop xep on linux' | send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'set signature=echo -e Eric Smith\nSee mail headers for |processors used|' | | Can you separate them with semi-colons? i.e., | | send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'set signature=echo -e Eric Smith\nSee mail headers for |processors used|; my_hdr X-currently-using: xalan saxon fop xep on linux' nope that dont work for me. -- Eric Smith
Re: two commands one a single send-hook
* Eric Smith [24-09-2001 15:09]: | | How do I put these two commands into a single statement? | | | | send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'my_hdr X-currently-using: xalan saxon fop xep on linux' | | send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'set signature=echo -e Eric Smith\nSee mail headers for |processors used|' | | | | Can you separate them with semi-colons? i.e., | | | | send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'set signature=echo -e Eric Smith\nSee mail headers for |processors used|; my_hdr X-currently-using: xalan saxon fop xep on linux' | nope that dont work for me. Why make your config files unreadable? I think the old situation is much more clearer, and more maintainable. You could change to: send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'source ~/.mutt/xsml-send-hook' and put the two configuration directives in there, not to clutter up your .muttrc, but I'd leave it the old way... ... just my 2c ;) -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) But, for my own part, it was Greek to me. -William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar
Re: two commands one a single send-hook
According to René Clerc on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 03:41:57PM +0200: | * Eric Smith [24-09-2001 15:09]: | | | | How do I put these two commands into a single statement? | | | | | | send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'my_hdr X-currently-using: xalan saxon fop xep on linux' | | | send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'set signature=echo -e Eric Smith\nSee mail headers |for processors used|' | | | | | | Can you separate them with semi-colons? i.e., | | | | | | send-hook ~C x[sm]l 'set signature=echo -e Eric Smith\nSee mail headers for |processors used|; my_hdr X-currently-using: xalan saxon fop xep on linux' | | nope that dont work for me. | | Why make your config files unreadable? | | I think the old situation is much more clearer, and more maintainable. | Only cause the old method as you say did not work - if it should work, I will fiddle some more. -- Eric Smith
$spoolfile equals $mbox
Can I do it? I mean, I am getting 90%+ of my messages by synchronizing my $mbox with a folder on IMAP server (by isync). Remaining 10% are transferred to $mbox via this .procmailrc PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/.mail #you'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox/ #completely optional LOGFILE=$HOME/.log-procmail #recommended :0: $DEFAULT Therefore I would really like, that mutt wouldn't start on my /var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME file, but in $mbox. Can I do just following? set spoolfile=$mbox or set spoolfile=+inbox # same value as $mbox Will mutt screw up when a read message from $spoolfile should be transferred to $mbox and it will be the same mailbox? Why just setting mailboxes +inbox (with unset $spoolfile) is not sufficient -- in such case mutt still begins on /var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME? Thanks in advance for any help Matej Cepl
Folder list format
Hi, all: I'm using Mutt (obviously) and I have procmail happily sorting my incoming mail into individual folders by topic. Is there anyway I can modify my folder view setting (what comes up when you hit 'c') to show me the name of the folder, total messages, and total new messages (by folder)? It would be wildly convenient. Thanks! -- my card... ___ | | |Jason Rashaad Jackson | | | | |\ /| UNIX Systems Administrator | | | | 2032 Dana Building | | | |\ /| | (Office) 734.615.1422 | | | | . | | (Mobile) 734.649.6641 | | |___| |___| http://www.umich.edu/~jrashaad | | G O B L U E | |___| PGP signature
Re: Folder list format
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 12:46:53PM -0400, Jason Rashaad Jackson wrote: mail into individual folders by topic. Is there anyway I can modify my folder view setting (what comes up when you hit 'c') to show me the name of the folder, total messages, and total new messages (by folder)? It As someone said a few days ago the information on folder contents is not available before a folder is read by mutt. The new mail status is only determined by the difference of access time and modify time. Reading a mail folder is only done when changing to that folder. otherwise mutt would have to read huge amounts of data for status information only. the information you want, could be made available from ~/.procmail/log (but you want it to be displayed by mutt somehow..) others, please correct me, if I'm wrong. Olaf, having no card
Postfix question
I've just installed Mandrake 8.1 and I'm using postfix. I've never configured it before, always I've used sendmail with debian. I am confused about the setup, I used the wizard and it seems to be working fine except that I can't send messages to the other computer in my home. my address: is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (what I want to appear on mail) other address: is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is the one that doesn't get delivered, it's the email address of the other computer) postfix wizard set postfix up to use an smtp host of: smtp.lvcablemodem.com I would be okay with not using that as long as I can send mail to the other computer both of these boxes are on the same cable network. I will attach a copy of my main.cf file and maybe someone can give me a pointer (I have tried reading the manual..) thanks dale thanks
re: Postfix question
duh.. forgot the post main.cf attachment..
# Global Postfix configuration file. This file lists only a subset
# of all 100+ parameters. See the sample-xxx.cf files for a full list.
#
# The general format is lines with parameter = value pairs. Lines
# that begin with whitespace continue the previous line. A value can
# contain references to other $names or ${name}s.
#
# NOTE - CHANGE NO MORE THAN 2-3 PARAMETERS AT A TIME, AND TEST IF
# POSTFIX STILL WORKS AFTER EVERY CHANGE.
# SOFT BOUNCE
#
# The soft_bounce parameter provides a limited safety net for
# testing. When soft_bounce is enabled, mail will remain queued that
# would otherwise bounce. This parameter disables locally-generated
# bounces, and prevents the SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently
# (by changing 5xx replies into 4xx replies). However, soft_bounce
# is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing mistakes.
#
#soft_bounce = no
# LOCAL PATHNAME INFORMATION
#
# The queue_directory specifies the location of the Postfix queue.
# This is also the root directory of Postfix daemons that run chrooted.
# See the files in examples/chroot-setup for setting up Postfix chroot
# environments on different UNIX systems.
#
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
# The command_directory parameter specifies the location of all
# postXXX commands. The default value is $program_directory.
#
command_directory = /usr/sbin
# The daemon_directory parameter specifies the location of all Postfix
# daemon programs (i.e. programs listed in the master.cf file). The
# default value is $program_directory. This directory must be owned
# by root.
#
daemon_directory = /usr/lib/postfix
# QUEUE AND PROCESS OWNERSHIP
#
# The mail_owner parameter specifies the owner of the Postfix queue
# and of most Postfix daemon processes. Specify the name of a user
# account THAT DOES NOT SHARE A GROUP WITH OTHER ACCOUNTS AND THAT
# OWNS NO OTHER FILES OR PROCESSES ON THE SYSTEM. In particular,
# don't specify nobody or daemon. PLEASE USE A DEDICATED USER.
#
mail_owner = postfix
# The default_privs parameter specifies the default rights used by
# the local delivery agent for delivery to external file or command.
# These rights are used in the absence of a recipient user context.
# DO NOT SPECIFY A PRIVILEGED USER OR THE POSTFIX OWNER.
#
default_privs = nobody
# INTERNET HOST AND DOMAIN NAMES
#
# The myhostname parameter specifies the internet hostname of this
# mail system. The default is to use the fully-qualified domain name
# from gethostname(). $myhostname is used as a default value for many
# other configuration parameters.
#
myhostname = lymond.lvcm.com
#myhostname = virtual.domain.name
# The mydomain parameter specifies the local internet domain name.
# The default is to use $myhostname minus the first component.
# $mydomain is used as a default value for many other configuration
# parameters.
#
#mydomain = domain.name
# SENDING MAIL
#
# The myorigin parameter specifies the domain that locally-posted
# mail appears to come from. The default is to append $myhostname,
# which is fine for small sites. If you run a domain with multiple
# machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2) set up
# a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to
# [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
#myorigin = $myhostname
#myorigin = $mydomain
# RECEIVING MAIL
# The inet_interfaces parameter specifies the network interface
# addresses that this mail system receives mail on. By default,
# the software claims all active interfaces on the machine. The
# parameter also controls delivery of mail to user@[ip.address].
#
#inet_interfaces = all
#inet_interfaces = $myhostname
#inet_interfaces = $myhostname, localhost
# The mydestination parameter specifies the list of domains that this
# machine considers itself the final destination for. That includes
# Sendmail-style virtual domains hosted on this machine.
#
# Do not include Postfix-style virtual domains - those domains are
# specified elsewhere (see sample-virtual.cf, and sample-transport.cf).
#
# The default is $myhostname + localhost.$mydomain. On a mail domain
# gateway, you should also include $mydomain. Do not specify the
# names of domains that this machine is backup MX host for. Specify
# those names via the relay_domains or permit_mx_backup settings for
# the SMTP server (see sample-smtpd.cf.
#
# The local machine is always the final destination for mail addressed
# to user@[the.net.work.address] of an interface that the mail system
# receives mail on (see the inet_interfaces parameter).
#
# Specify a list of host or domain names, /file/name or type:table
# patterns, separated by commas and/or whitespace. A /file/name
# pattern is replaced by its contents; a type:table is matched when
# a name matches a lookup key. Continue long lines by starting the
# next line with whitespace.
#
#mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain
#mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain
#mydestination =
Re: Postfix question
both of these boxes are on the same cable network. I will attach a copy of my main.cf file and maybe someone can give me Don't! a pointer (I have tried reading the manual..) There is a postfix-users mailing list. There is a FAQ at www.postfix.org. If you need to send configuration data, post only the output of postconf -n. This prints all non-default settings, and is usually enough to diagnose problems. Along with log file evidence, that is :)
Re: Postfix question
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Lars Hecking wrote: both of these boxes are on the same cable network. I will attach a copy of my main.cf file and maybe someone can give me Don't! too late.. sorry..
Problems with 1.3.22's iconv/libiconv
Here's my configure: ./configure \ --prefix=/opt/mutt-1.3.22 \ --enable-pop --enable-imap \ --with-curses=/opt/ncurses \ --with-libiconv-prefix=/opt/libiconv \ --with-debug And the output: [snip!] checking for iconv... yes checking for iconv declaration... extern size_t iconv (iconv_t cd, const char * *inbuf, size_t *inbytesleft, char * *outbuf, size_t *outbytesleft); [snip!] checking whether this iconv is good enough... no configure: error: Try using libiconv instead I've tried using --without-iconv, but it doesn't work. Any suggestions? BTW, anyone know where I can find the pgp-outlook patch for v1.3.22? Thanks, js. -- Jean-Sebastien Morisset, Sr. UNIX Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal Homepage http://jsmoriss.mvlan.net/ This is Linux Country. On a quiet night you can hear Windows NT reboot! please pgp encrypt all correspondence PGP signature
Re: Mutt and GPG
Thus spake Derek D. Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have been using mutt with pgp for some time now, but I've now got enough people that I want to send encrypted mail to on a regular basis that I'd like to have mutt automatically encrypt mail to everyone for whom I have public keys, and just leave it unencrytped for everyone else. I looked through the manual, and though it seems like send-hook and/or auto-encrypt might be helpful for this, there's nothing clear that I could find in the manual to explain how to do this. Anyone have pointers? I've used a send-hook along with auto-encrypt before, and that works fine. As for getting the info from your keyring, the only way that comes to mind is running some kind of script on a regular basis (perhaps a cron job) that lists your keyring, extracts the email addresses from the key info (perhaps with sed and/or awk), and throws them in a file that is sourced by Mutt in order to build the send-hooks. This sounds like a lot of work though... perhaps there is a better way. For those who may be curious why I want to do this, my philosophy is that the e-mail I send is private, and even if there is no sensitive data in the e-mail, it simply is no one's business but mine and my intended recipient's. Therefore, I wish to encrypt ALL e-mail for anyone whose public key I have, thus preventing bored operators at ISPs between me and my recipient from reading my personal mail. While I won't disagree with you if I think this is paranoid, you should know that I have interviewed people (more than one) who have told me point blank that they hook sniffers up to their servers and see what they can read, just for fun, at their present jobs at ISPs. Personally, I find this intollerable. Valid reasons to me! -- | Justin R. Miller / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 0xC9C40C31 | Of all the things I've lost, I miss my pants the most. -- PGP signature
Re: Mutt and GPG
* Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24-09-2001 23:43]: | I think it's a nice feature you describe. I don't have the answer, but | if someone has, I'll benefit from it too! | | Since you said so, I CC:'d the list so they'll know I'm not the only | one who's paranoid... =8^) I mean, so the developers will know others | find this feature desireable. I hope you don't mind... Of course not. I just had the feeling I was slightly drifting OT... but you're right, the more people in favor of this feature, the better! | The reason why I'm mailing you is the following question: | | Your email body is justified. How do you do this? With vim somehow? | Could you explain this to me? [... some marvelous Xemacs trick ...] Does anybody know if it's possible with vim? I mostly use mutt over ssh... | You'll want to change your signature to start with sigdashes | (dash-dash-space) in stead of just two dashes... | | Yeah... I switched computers, and have no .sig file on this one, so I | typed it by hand... :) Mutt does the right thing if you've got a sig | file. Sorry. No hard feelings ;) -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Nice computers don't go down. PGP signature
Re: Mutt and GPG
Thus spake René Clerc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [... some marvelous Xemacs trick ...] Does anybody know if it's possible with vim? I mostly use mutt over ssh... Here's one way: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mutt-users/message/20095 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mutt-users/message/21602 -- | Justin R. Miller / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 0xC9C40C31 | Of all the things I've lost, I miss my pants the most. -- PGP signature
displaying recipient in index
How do I display the recipient name in the index in the form of: To Email Recipient instead of it displaying my name in respect of emails sent by myself? -- Eric Smith
Re: Mutt and GPG
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 04:55:26PM -0400, Derek D. Martin wrote: I have been using mutt with pgp for some time now, but I've now got enough people that I want to send encrypted mail to on a regular basis that I'd like to have mutt automatically encrypt mail to everyone for whom I have public keys, and just leave it unencrytped for everyone else. I looked through the manual, and though it seems like send-hook and/or auto-encrypt might be helpful for this, there's nothing clear that I could find in the manual to explain how to do this. Anyone have pointers? something like this. add to your .muttrc: source .muttrc.autoenc and add a cronjob: gpg --list-keys | perl -n -e '/(.*?)/; print send-hook $1 \set pgp_autoencrypt\\n' ~/.muttrc.autoenc would that do? :) great idea, btw, I like it! -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com PGP signature
Re: Mutt and GPG
--RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 at 18:07:15 -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote:
Thus spake Ren=E9 Clerc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
=20
[... some marvelous Xemacs trick ...]
=20
Does anybody know if it's possible with vim? I mostly use mutt over
ssh...
=20
Here's one way:
=20
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mutt-users/message/20095
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mutt-users/message/21602
That explains wrapping, but not right-justification, which i think is
what Ren=E9 wants.
Reading `:h right-justify' in vim pointed me to a utility called `par'.
I've only looked at par's options cursorially, but it seems filtering
text through `par 72j' does the trick, including preserving quoting.
This can be done via !{motion}par 72j, or more conveniently by setting
vim's `equalprg' or `formatprg' options to `par 72j', and then
formatting text with =3D{motion} or gq{motion}, respectively.
--=20
Piet Delport [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Today's subliminal thought is:
--RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature
Content-Disposition: inline
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD)
iD8DBQE7r77CzRUP82sZFCcRAmbPAKCgLiGQJfG9EOxtiDzvHub08jmxqwCeJX5Y
Kv08GnS7bZ7WG6y9ySEnXwk=
=4tXS
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
--RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1--
Re: displaying recipient in index
--mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 at 00:58:02 +0200, Eric Smith wrote: How do I display the recipient name in the index in the form of: To Email Recipient =20 instead of it displaying my name in respect of emails sent by myself? The `alternates' settings is most likely what you're looking for. Basically, it's a regular expression that tells mutt which addresses belong to you, and is used for displaying messages in the above form, stripping yourself from group replies automatically, etc... --=20 Piet Delport [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's subliminal thought is: --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7r8XEzRUP82sZFCcRAlQcAJ9rpD5K/8LA8XmI3y42LAHx42MvGwCdHJPj TrUBH2XgpUggabWFpwaNNYw= =o/pi -END PGP SIGNATURE- --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t--
Re: Mutt and GPG
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 06:59:08PM -0400, Dan Boger wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 04:55:26PM -0400, Derek D. Martin wrote: I have been using mutt with pgp for some time now, but I've now got enough people that I want to send encrypted mail to on a regular basis that I'd like to have mutt automatically encrypt mail to everyone for whom I have public keys, and just leave it unencrytped for everyone else. add to your .muttrc: source .muttrc.autoenc and add a cronjob: gpg --list-keys | perl -n -e '/(.*?)/; print send-hook $1 \set pgp_autoencrypt\\n' ~/.muttrc.autoenc would that do? :) It looks like it will... I'll give it a try ASAP. Thanks! great idea, btw, I like it! Thanks again... I thought so too. =8^) Ok, another question for the crypto fans out there. I've been getting complaints from people I know that use other mailers that they simply can't get my signature to validate when I send them signed mail. Apparently, mutt is the only mailer on the planet that handles PGP signatures the way it does, from what people are telling me. Also, while I have made almost no effort to verify this (and of course that means I didn't), I've been told that the way mutt handles signatures is in violation of the OpenPGP standard, and that the GnuPG people are pretty unhappy about it. What's the deal? -- --- Derek Martin | Unix/Linux geek [EMAIL PROTECTED]| GnuPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D Retrieve my public key at http://pgp.mit.edu
Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ
Suresh, et al -- ...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said... % Hi Hi! % % Known issue: Outlook and Eudora (for example) barf on pgp-mime. Yep. % ... % either ... they'd prefer % % Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii % Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit % % Now, what do I do? Clearsign / encrypt it in the vim buffer itself? Use Shane's pgp_outlook_compat patch, as I've plugged here before. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
Fwd: Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 08:48:37PM -0400, David T-G wrote: % Known issue: Outlook and Eudora (for example) barf on pgp-mime. Yep. [SNIP] Use Shane's pgp_outlook_compat patch, as I've plugged here before. Well, o.k. thanks... But two questions: - Where can I get the patch? - If litterally no one else (apparently) supports PGP in this manner, why does mutt insist on doing it this way? -- --- Derek Martin | Unix/Linux geek [EMAIL PROTECTED]| GnuPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D Retrieve my public key at http://pgp.mit.edu
Mutt 1.3.22 not displaying accent chars
You guys must be getting sick of hearing from me... :) I have two systems sitting side by side, both running RH 7.1, with pretty much the same environment and just about identical mutt configurations. The main difference is that one is 1.3.22 and the other is 1.2.5. When I view messages in the 1.2.5 version, everything looks fine. However, when I view the same message in the 1.3.22 version, characters with accents (like in Rene's name) don't show up. Er, they do, but they show up as question marks. Anyone know what's going on here? Thanks again! -- --- Derek Martin | Unix/Linux geek [EMAIL PROTECTED]| GnuPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D Retrieve my public key at http://pgp.mit.edu
Re: Problems with 1.3.22's iconv/libiconv
Jean-Sebastien Morisset wrote: checking whether this iconv is good enough... no configure: error: Try using libiconv instead i don't know too much about this, but i was able to get over thie problem with some help from some developers on this list. i had to export LDFLAGS to something; in my case, this worked: LDFLAGS=-Wl,-R/usr/local/lib ./configure --with-domain=newdream.net --with-libiconv-prefix=/usr/local/lib your mileage may vary of course. but you might try: LDFLAGS=-R/opt/libiconv ./configure --[etc] --with-libiconv-prefix=/opt/libiconv or LDFLAGS=-WI,R/opt/libiconv ./configure --[etc] --with-libiconv-prefix=/opt/libiconv if that doesn't work you might want to post more specifics of what OS, version, c compiler etc. you're using, and perhaps some of your config.log output. w -- GPG Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/ PGP signature
configure breaks on libiconv
Am trying to install mutt 1.3.22.1 having previously installed libiconv-1.7. Configure throws an error checking whether this iconv is good enough... no configure: error: Try using libiconv instead I'm not quite sure what this means. libiconv is in /usr/local/lib which is where mutt says it's looking for it. Assuming that it's the correct library - curiously, there are several, all with today's date; -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 695 Sep 24 17:05 /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Sep 24 17:05 /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so - libiconv.so.2.0.4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Sep 24 17:05 /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.2 - libiconv.so.2.0.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 904387 Sep 24 17:05 /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.2.0.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 904080 Sep 24 17:05 /usr/local/lib/libiconv_plug.so Am I missing something quite simple? Thanks in Advance. Sean
Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ
David T-G mutt [24/09/01 20:48 -0400]: % Now, what do I do? Clearsign / encrypt it in the vim buffer itself? Use Shane's pgp_outlook_compat patch, as I've plugged here before. I use freebsd's port collection - I'll see if I can work this into the port I'm running. -suresh PGP signature
Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ
Bruno Postle mutt [24/09/01 21:03 +0100]: That would be the right way to do it. I do it the wrong way in mutt :-), when I need to communicate with the nic.uk robot (it requires all sorts of annoying pgp things) I use: macro compose S Fgpg -a --clearsign -u 0x82C08753 And to encrypt / encrypt and sign? Ah, no matter, I'll figure it out. -suresh PGP signature
Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 01:12:23AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Hi Known issue: Outlook and Eudora (for example) barf on pgp-mime. Now, what do I do? Clearsign / encrypt it in the vim buffer itself? I do this frequently with vim, myself. The biggest drawback is you need to know when it's necessary to do it ;-) -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using urlview on image URLs.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:20:57AM -0400, Jean-Sebastien Morisset decreed: Hi all. I often receive plain/text e-mails with URLs in them. Normally, I would call up urlview, select the url, and then lynx would start-up to display that page. My problem is that some of the URLs point to images. :-) If I use the standard urlview-lynx technique, lynx will download the image, start xv (my prefered image viewer), and then exit. When lynx exits, it removes the temporary file it downloaded, which causes xv to display an error about not finding the specified file. :-) Anyone have any ideas how I can download and view image URLs? I tried urlview and decided that I prefered to see the entire email when dealing with the links. So I wrote my own script. The attached Python script loads the entire email into a GUI browser as HTML, with URLs made into real hyperlinks. I have the following lines in my .muttrc to invoke it from Ctrl-b and invoke the Opera browser. It should be easy to adapt to other browsers. macro index \cb |email2html.py /tmp/email.html; opera /tmp/email.html \n macro pager \cb |email2html.py /tmp/email.html; opera /tmp/email.html \n Let me know if this is useful enough to post somewhere. Obviously enjoy it, but use it entirely at your own risk. HTH and cheers, Steve -- \_O \_O \_O ~~~ Steve Cooper Redmond, WA
Re: Mutt and GPG
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:50:52PM +0200, René Clerc wrote: | The reason why I'm mailing you is the following question: | | Your email body is justified. How do you do this? With vim somehow? | Could you explain this to me? Does anybody know if it's possible with vim? I mostly use mutt over ssh... I found this in the vim docs: *right-justify* There is no command in Vim to right justify text. You can do it with an external command, like par (e.g.: !}par to format until the end of the paragraph) or set 'formatprg' to par. This would suggest that full justification is also not possible within vim natively. I don't have par installed, so I can't test to see if it would do it. -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: Using urlview on image URLs. (Here's the script)
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:20:57AM -0400, Jean-Sebastien Morisset decreed:
Hi all.
I often receive plain/text e-mails with URLs in them. Normally, I would
call up urlview, select the url, and then lynx would start-up to display
that page. My problem is that some of the URLs point to images. :-) If I
use the standard urlview-lynx technique, lynx will download the image,
start xv (my prefered image viewer), and then exit. When lynx exits, it
removes the temporary file it downloaded, which causes xv to display an
error about not finding the specified file. :-)
Apologies for hitting send too soon without adding the attachment!
--- original response ---
I tried urlview and decided that I prefered to see the entire email when
dealing with the links. So I wrote my own script.
The attached Python script loads the entire email into a GUI browser as
HTML, with URLs made into real hyperlinks.
I have the following lines in my .muttrc to invoke it from Ctrl-b and
invoke the Opera browser. It should be easy to adapt to other browsers.
macro index \cb |email2html.py /tmp/email.html; opera /tmp/email.html \n
macro pager \cb |email2html.py /tmp/email.html; opera /tmp/email.html \n
Let me know if this is useful enough to post somewhere.
Obviously enjoy it, but use it entirely at your own risk.
HTH and cheers,
Steve
--
\_O \_O \_O
~~~
Steve Cooper Redmond, WA
#!/usr/bin/env python2
import sys
import re
#=== Globals
# Regular expression for isolating URLs
reURL = re.compile('(((http|https|ftp|gopher)|mailto)[.:][^ \t]*|www\.[-a-z0-9.]+)')
# Colors
bgColor= #ff
labelColor = #5050e0
textColor = #00
#=== Fix line function
def FixLine(line):
line = line.strip()
line = line.replace('','lt;')
line = line.replace('','gt;')
return line
#=== Header list class
class HeaderList:
def __init__(self):
self.headers = {}
# Specification for desired visible headers
# TODO: Un-hardcode this!
self.reHeaders = re.compile('^[ \t]*(From|To|Date|Subject):[ \t]*(.*)$',
re.IGNORECASE)
def ScanLine(self, line):
matchHeader = self.reHeaders.search(line)
if matchHeader is not None:
self.headers[matchHeader.group(1).lower()] = matchHeader.group(2)
def OutputLine(self, name, label, size = +0):
if self.headers.has_key(name):
print 'bfont color=%s size=%s%s: /font/b' % (labelColor, size,
label)
print 'font color=%s size=%s%s/fontbr' % (textColor, size,
self.headers[name])
def Output(self):
# TODO: Un-hardcode this!
self.OutputLine('from','From')
self.OutputLine('to', 'To', '-1')
self.OutputLine('date','Date','-1')
self.OutputLine('subject', 'Subject', '+1')
print 'hrbr'
print 'html'
print 'head'
print 'meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=windows-1252'
print 'titleMutt Email/title'
print '/head'
print 'body bgcolor=%s' % bgColor
#=== Scan headers
headers = HeaderList()
line = sys.stdin.readline()
while line:
line = FixLine(line)
# Assume first empty line is the end of the headers
if not line:
break
headers.ScanLine(line)
line = sys.stdin.readline()
#=== Format header lines
headers.Output()
#=== Scan and display body
print 'PRE'
nLine = 0
line = sys.stdin.readline()
while line:
line = FixLine(line)
nLine = nLine + 1
match = reURL.search(line)
while match is not None:
sub = 'a href=%s%s/a' % (match.group(1), match.group(1))
line = line[:match.start(1)] + sub + line[match.end():]
skip = match.start() + len(sub)
match = reURL.search(line, skip)
print '%s' % line
line = sys.stdin.readline()
print '/PRE'
print '/body'
print '/html'
Re: Using urlview on image URLs.
Steve Cooper mutt [24/09/01 20:33 +]: The attached Python script loads the entire email into a GUI browser as HTML, with URLs made into real hyperlinks. Nothing attached ...
Re: Mutt and GPG
David Rock mutt [24/09/01 22:31 -0500]:
This would suggest that full justification is also not possible within
vim natively. I don't have par installed, so I can't test to see if it
would do it.
set editor=vim +':set tw=77' +':set wrap' +\`awk '/^$/ {print i+2; exit} {i++}' %s\`
%s
--suresh
PGP signature
Re: Problems with 1.3.22's iconv/libiconv
Jean-Sebastien -- ...and then Jean-Sebastien Morisset said... % ... % BTW, anyone know where I can find the pgp-outlook patch for v1.3.22? See http://mutt.sector13.org/mutt-build-cocktail for one... % % Thanks, % js. % -- % Jean-Sebastien Morisset, Sr. UNIX Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] % Personal Homepage http://jsmoriss.mvlan.net/ % This is Linux Country. On a quiet night you can hear Windows NT reboot! % please pgp encrypt all correspondence :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
Re: configure breaks on libiconv
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mutt [24/09/01 19:22 -0700]: Am I missing something quite simple? Are you running slak 8? Someone reported that he got mutt to compile by compiling against an older version of iconv -suresh PGP signature
Re: Fwd: Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ
Derek -- ...and then Derek D. Martin said... % On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 08:48:37PM -0400, David T-G wrote: % % % Known issue: Outlook and Eudora (for example) barf on pgp-mime. % % Yep. % [SNIP] % Use Shane's pgp_outlook_compat patch, as I've plugged here before. % % Well, o.k. thanks... But two questions: % % - Where can I get the patch? You can surf over to http://mutt.sector13.org/mutt-build-cocktail for one... % % - If litterally no one else (apparently) supports PGP in this manner, %why does mutt insist on doing it this way? Because it's The Right Way, AFAIUI. Check the archives for one of the half dozen wars over this through the past two years or so. % % % -- % --- % Derek Martin | Unix/Linux geek % [EMAIL PROTECTED]| GnuPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D % Retrieve my public key at http://pgp.mit.edu :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
Re: Mutt 1.3.22 not displaying accent chars
Derek -- ...and then Derek D. Martin said... % You guys must be getting sick of hearing from me... :) Nope. We'll just expect you to be a very vocal answer poster later! % % I have two systems sitting side by side, both running RH 7.1, with ... % When I view messages in the 1.2.5 version, everything looks fine. % However, when I view the same message in the 1.3.22 version, % characters with accents (like in Rene's name) don't show up. Er, they % do, but they show up as question marks. I dont have an answer for you, but the first thing I would do would be to check your $LC_* vars, the second thing would be to compare your system and personal muttrc files, and the third thing would be to compile up 1.3.22.1 on the 1.2.5 box and try it. It takes a lot to get me to dig into the manual and look for strings like locale and international and so on. % % Anyone know what's going on here? % % Thanks again! HTH HAND % % -- % --- % Derek Martin | Unix/Linux geek % [EMAIL PROTECTED]| GnuPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D % Retrieve my public key at http://pgp.mit.edu :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
Can't get the vvv-nntp-patch working...
--d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've installed mutt from the ports collection using WITH_MUTT_NNTP (after trying and failing to get the hang of slrn...), and everything seems to have went well, but i'm running into a strange problem when i actually try to read news. I'm running leafnode locally, and mutt connects fine; gives the list of newsgroups when i press `i', lets me subscribe, shows how many are unread, everything. But as soon as i enter a newsgroup, mutt shows me an empty index. No messages whatsoever, even after every obvious way to make mutt display everything it can. Going back to the newsgroup browser shows that all articles seem to have been marked read. Pressing uncatchup-all brings back the full message count in the browser, but as soon as i try to re-enter the newsgroup, the articles just dissappear again, just like before. I think the problem is leafnode related, as mutt works perfectly on my ISP's news server. Version info:=20 Mutt 1.3.22.1i (2001-08-30) Leafnode+ NNTP Daemon, version 2.14 Any clues? --=20 Piet Delport [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's subliminal thought is: --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7sAYRzRUP82sZFCcRAo9eAJ0W1MBlQy2iIDRkrcw65t7vbLs8UACeIjJ+ jcuJIpZPdPO24cVmOzGaGCU= =oNbw -END PGP SIGNATURE- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND--
Re: Mutt 1.3.22 not displaying accent chars
hello, On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:26:22PM, Derek D. Martin wrote: When I view messages in the 1.2.5 version, everything looks fine. However, when I view the same message in the 1.3.22 version, characters with accents (like in Rene's name) don't show up. Er, they do, but they show up as question marks. I had the same problem. It was corrected when I upgraded glocale. Derek Martin ---end quoted text--- cu, binny -- Attends-moi, toi tu es la reine Des sommets, l'orage sévit dans les plaines Tu ne m'entends pas, je suis parasité malgré moi. -- Bertrand Cantant, L'appartement Benjamin Michotte[EMAIL PROTECTED] °v° web : http://www.baby-linux.net _o_ homepage : http://www.baby-linux.net/binny icq uin : 99745024
