Re: ISO 8601 (was Re: OT: attribution line with 80 chars max)
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, 15:05, Gary Johnson wrote: 2002-01-02 If we know this is ISO, then obviously it's January 2, 2002. But if we're not _sure_ it's ISO, then it could be February 1, 2002. Nah. Not even someone who had never even _heard_ of ISO would ever write -DD-MM. For one thing, only an analytic would put the year first, and an analytic would follow that by the month, then the day. It makes me wonder why America uses MM/DD/ then? It's the same thing :) In log files I prefer -MM-DD and in general DD-MM-YYY works fine.. Just my EUR0,02... (not EUR0.02 ;-) Ray --
Re: editors and paragraphs
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-13 17:40:27 +0100]: * MuttER [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020313 14:17]: Many editors would have difficulty recognizing and parsing your date format. Which editors parse for dates? examples? (anyone?) Some people consider emacs to be an editor. , | *** Welcome to IELM *** Type (describe-mode) for help. | ELISP (require 'parse-time) | parse-time | | ELISP (parse-time-string Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:40:27 +0100) | (27 40 17 13 3 2002 3 nil 3600) | | ELISP (parse-time-string 2002-03-13 17:40:27 +0100) | (27 40 17 13 3 2002 nil nil 3600) | | ELISP (parse-time-string 020313 14:17) | (0 17 14 nil nil nil nil nil nil) ` -- Dave Pearson: | lbdb.el - LBDB interface. http://www.davep.org/ | sawfish.el - Sawfish mode. Emacs: | uptimes.el - Record emacs uptimes. http://www.davep.org/emacs/ | quickurl.el - Recall lists of URLs.
tagging/deleting weirdness
This is all at least in 1.3.27. If I tag messages, and then hit ';d', it doens't apply 'd' to the tagged messages, only the one the indicator is on. Also, if I am on the last message and hit 'd', it gets applied to the message above the last, and every time I hit 'd' again, it applies to the next one above. I see no way this way to delete the last message, unless I change the sorting. Why would this be? Thanks. -Ken
Non-interactive command line send
I have seen a few posts about this, but no matter how I try, I am missing something to make mutt send without prompting me for a password for my IMAP account, which is set up in my .muttrc file. I have a script which grabs today's Garfield comic, and /should/ then send it on to my wife. This is what I have: mutt -x -s Daily\ Garfield -a ga$theimg.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ($theimg is the date in the format yymmdd, but that's not important) Obviously the email address is that of my wife and not mine. I don't need anything in the message body. TIA -- John Lennon:--v [Simon White. vim/mutt/Linux. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS: 39.66%] Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along.
Fw: error w/ muttprint (or Latex)
I am using mutt 1.3.27 w/ muttprint. Previously I used set print_command=lpr which worked quite fine. I downloaded muttprint, installed it, copied over the default .muttprintrc and made minimal changes to it to get it to work. But, on trying to print, though it gives a message: Messages printed; nothing is actually printed. the error log shows the following, which makes me suspect it is a Latex error, but I may be wrong. I have *not* ever used or configured Latex on my machine. ---excerpts from error log- Overfull \vbox (12.49998pt too high) has occurred while \output is active LaTeX Warning: Reference `LastPage' on page 1 undefined on input line 82. [1] (mail.aux) LaTeX Warning: There were undefined references. LaTeX Warning: Label(s) may have changed. Rerun to get cross-references right. ) (see the transcript file for additional information) Output written on mail.dvi (1 page, 2124 bytes). snip Output written on mail.dvi (1 page, 2076 bytes). Transcript written on mail.log. dvips: warning: no config file for `lp0' This is dvipsk 5.86 p1.5d Copyright 1996-2001 ASCII Corp.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) based on dvipsk 5.86 Copyright 1999 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) ' TeX output 2002.03.13:2028' - | lpr -Plp0 texc.pro. [1] Status Information: sending job 'spavri@localhost+402' to lp0@localhost connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1 connected to 'localhost' requesting printer lp0@localhost job 'spavri@localhost+402' transfer to lp0@localhost failed error 'NONZERO RFC1179 ERROR CODE FROM SERVER' with ack 'ACK_FAIL' sending str '^Blp0' to lp0@localhost error msg: 'spool queue for 'lp0' does not exist on server localhost.localdoma$ error msg: ' non-existent printer or you need to run 'checkpc -f'' --end of excerpt from error log- can someone please help, regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Mumbai, India.
Re: editors and paragraphs
* Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 09:27]: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-13 17:40:27 +0100]: Which editors parse for dates? examples? (anyone?) Some people consider emacs to be an editor. oh - that one. , | *** Welcome to IELM *** Type (describe-mode) for help. | ELISP (require 'parse-time) | parse-time | | ELISP (parse-time-string Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:40:27 +0100) | (27 40 17 13 3 2002 3 nil 3600) | | ELISP (parse-time-string 2002-03-13 17:40:27 +0100) | (27 40 17 13 3 2002 nil nil 3600) | | ELISP (parse-time-string 020313 14:17) | (0 17 14 nil nil nil nil nil nil) ` looks like the parsing can still be enhanced. *ehem* Sven -- off topic? what?
Re: tagging/deleting weirdness
On Thursday, 14 March 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: This is all at least in 1.3.27. If I tag messages, and then hit ';d', it doens't apply 'd' to the tagged messages, only the one the indicator is on. Also, if I am on the last message and hit 'd', it gets applied to the message above the last, and every time I hit 'd' again, it applies to the next one above. I see no way this way to delete the last message, unless I change the sorting. Why would this be? It works fine with my mutt (1.3.27). -- The Universe doesn't give you any points for doing things that are easy. -- Sheridan to Garibaldi in Babylon 5:The Geometry of Shadows Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski rathann(at)rangers.eu.org
Re: tagging/deleting weirdness
* Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 09:29]: This is all at least in 1.3.27. If I tag messages, and then hit ';d', it doens't apply 'd' to the tagged messages, only the one the indicator is on. check the bindings of these keys then! (you know, use help with '?' ;-) Sven
Re: Non-interactive command line send
* Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 10:24]: I have a script which grabs today's Garfield comic, and /should/ then send it on to my wife. This is what I have: mutt -x -s Daily\ Garfield -a ga$theimg.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo smooches | mutt -s Daily Garfield -a ga$theimg.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] now, if crontab does all this then you probably have to use /dir/mutt. I have seen a few posts about this, but no matter how I try, I am missing something to make mutt send without prompting me for a password for my IMAP account, which is set up in my .muttrc file. hmm... make mutt use some non-standard setup file then by applying the option -F file: echo smooches | mutt -F /dev/null .. anyway, I find a page like this much mor effective: http://www-ttp.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de/cartoons/ (funnies in english and german) enjoy! :-) Mail-Followup-To: Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mutt User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] this is a closed list, isn't it? Sven
Re: Watch thread functionality - Usenet
* John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 01:36]: Is this easily do-able ? A keypress would mean all following emails in this thread get marked somehow (colour, whatever ...) it is possible whenever a followup has a reference to this message - or to a followup which in turn has a reference pointing back at the message. so much for theory. usually, an email message has only *one* reference - pointing at the previous message. usually, that's all you get. some mailers also use a References: line. (guess which!) but then there are so many mailers which do not give *any* reference at all - no, not even one. so much for watching threads. hint: you want News aka Usenet and a good newsreader. recommended: gnus, slrn, tin, trn, xnews. (GNKSA!) and then there is mutt plus the NNTP patches.. Sven [using slrn] -- NEWSREADER HomePages Gnus - http://www.gnus.org trn - http://trn.sourceforge.net/ slrn - http://www.slrn.org xnews - http://xnews.3dnews.net/ tin - http://www.tin.orgForte (Free) Agent, Netscape, OutlookExpress
Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % Now if you guys would just submit your keys to the public keyservers... Can you not find mine? I should be fairly widely spread, I think... :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25470/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote: % % Do you mean something like % %send-hook . set pgp_autosign ... % % You rule, David. Works like a friggin' charm. Why, thank you bows. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25471/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?
Knute -- ...and then Knute said... % % On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, David T-G wrote: % % Do you mean something like % %send-hook . set pgp_autosign ... % % or so? Modify to folder-hook as you see fit. % ^^^ % What folder-hook? The one that he will write to trigger autosigning when in a certain folder, since I know we are all elitist^Worganized enough to use some sort of filtering outside of mutt. % % I'm guessing that the first 2 should have been folder-hooks. :) Nope; I sign everything except for a few special cases, so I just use send-hooks, and I just gave him my example and let him convert to folders on his own. Excercises for the student and all :-) :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25472/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ~/Mailbox oddness?
Myrddin -- ...and then J. Scott Dorr said... % % On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:51:38PM +0100, Maarten den Braber wrote: % * J. Scott Dorr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020313 22:36]: % Everything works just fine, -except- when it comes to the main/default mailbox ... % into one of the other mailboxes before I get to ~/Mailbox, then the 'c' ... % 'c'hanged to all the other mailboxes, read/marked/etc the new mail and -know- % there's new mail in the ~/Mailbox). That bugs me. % % Do you have some 'buffy' kind of program that checks ~/Mailbox? % % To the best of my knowledge, no. Though I'm not sure how that would affect % mutt's ability to keep track of new messages in that box...? Because, as has been discussed on the list before, mutt doesn't actually know that there are new messages in the box; it simply knows that the modification timestamp (last write) is later than the access time stamp (last read) and, according to the definition that that fits, says there is new mail. If biff or buffy were to update the access timestamp, though, then it wouldn't fit the new mail qualification any more. To test this, get into another mailbox, open another window, and touch your spoolfile's modification time; you should then see it in your new mail mailbox list. Immediately try to change to it and see if it's offerred up in the list. If you do this within five seconds or so you should beat any biff/buffy/shell/newmail/... checks. If it *isn't* in the list, then use ls to compare the mod and access times and see if they are what you expect, indicating some other problem, or have been updated, indicating a rogue biff. % % - Myrddin % -- % ICQ: 22404528 Why Vegan? http://www.firstmagic.com/vegan % -- HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25473/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: editors and paragraphs
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 12:09:19 +0100]: * Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 09:27]: , | ELISP (parse-time-string 020313 14:17) | (0 17 14 nil nil nil nil nil nil) ` looks like the parsing can still be enhanced. *ehem* How should it infer the year format, get the seconds and work out the timezone from the above data? Even if the seconds is considered lossy the other two items of data seem pretty vital, even if the parser isn't an editor. -- Dave Pearson: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.davep.org/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards Mutt: | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility http://www.davep.org/mutt/ | muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
Re: mutt and ncurses
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2002, David Champion wrote: Run ldd mutt. This will tell you what shared dependencies the binary has (including whether it used the shared or static libs from your ncurses build). Oh, cool. So the following means that mutt doesn't need any of the ncurses libraries at all after the binary is built? ./mutt: -lintl.1 = /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.1 -liconv.2 = /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.2 -lc.12 = /usr/lib/libc.so.12 You have to do something about the terminfo database, if there is no /usr/local/share/terminfo (ncurses normally doesn't default to looking at /usr/share/misc/terminfo, for instance unless you have set $TERMINFO or $TERMINFO_DIRS). -- T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: mutt and ncurses
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, David Champion wrote: On 2002.03.13, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, cool. So the following means that mutt doesn't need any of the ncurses libraries at all after the binary is built? ./mutt: -lintl.1 = /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.1 -liconv.2 = /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.2 -lc.12 = /usr/lib/libc.so.12 Yep. If it were depending on your ncurses build, you'd see another line like -lncurses = /home/hazmat/ncurses-5.2/libncurses.so or something. if it were - but by default ncurses doesn't build shared libraries. (On some systems such as FreeBSD which have poor linker semantics combined with a lagging-edge version of ncurses, that results in linking with the system's copy of ncurses - but ldd shows that, too ;-). -- T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: Opening html links in text mail
Joel -- ...and then Joel Hammer said... % % Well I found urlview. Good! % I do not want to install yet another helpler application (yet). Also, can't Fair enough. % even download the thang. This urlview looks hardcore to me! Why can't you download it? [zero] [7:21am] ~ ftp -n ftp open ftp.mutt.org Connected to trithemius.gnupg.org. 220- +- 220- +-- Welcome to the Roxen Challenger FTP server -- 220- +--on a Debian/GNU Linux system -- 220- +- 220 Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp user ftp [EMAIL PROTECTED] 331 Anonymous ftp accepted, send your complete e-mail address as password. 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. ftp cd /pub/mutt/contrib 250 Current directory is now /pub/mutt/contrib/. ftp dir u* 502 Unknown command 'EPSV'. 227 Entering Passive Mode. 217,69,76,44,156,68 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /usr/bin/ls total 90 -rw-rw-r-- 1 1001 1001336 Feb 05 03:10 urlview-0.7.README -rw-rw-r-- 1 1001 1001 41817 Oct 21 11:07 urlview-0.7.tar.gz -rw-rw-r-- 1 1001 1001406 Jul 04 12:29 urlview-0.9.README -rw-rw-r-- 1 1001 1001 46685 Jul 04 12:30 urlview-0.9.tar.gz -rw-rw-r-- 1 1001 1001460 Jul 04 12:30 urlview-0.9.tar.gz.asc 226 Transfer complete. ftp qui 221 Bye! It was nice talking to you! You have new mail in /home/davidtg/Mail/F.mutt. [zero] [7:22am] ~ It's not hardcore; it's actually a pretty basic program. You don't really have to know much about how it works to use it; I certainly don't :-) % I would really rather learn how to access the clipboard from a bash script! You think urlview is hardcore and you want to go poking at clipboard interfaces? *snort* % Joel :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25477/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Reply quoting an unwrapped message - the vim way
* Philip Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-02-22 01:41]: How does pine do it, anyway? pine wraps paragraphs in replies fine. They seem to have some heuristic or something that does the right thing almost all the time... Pine people use pico and its justify command (bound to CTRL-J). You can have this in Vim, too, using these mapping in the setup: Formatting the current paragraph according to the current 'textwidth' with ^J (control-j): imap C-J C-Ogqap too dangerous for my editing ;-) nmap C-J gqap vmap C-J gq This, and more, is in my setup files - take a look! (see sig) PS: Vim preserves quoting levels - when configured appropriately. Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sven's commented setup files for Vim: http://www.vim.org/gvimrc personal setup file for GUI Vim http://www.vim.org/vimrcpersonal setup file for non-GUI Vim http://www.vim.org/vimrc.forallsetup file for everyone http://www.vim.org/vimrc.forall.gz compressed setup file for everyone Lots of commented options and mappings for everyday editing.
logical operator
Hello Mutt-users, taken from my ~/.muttrc: save-hook ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]|~c [EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux Is it possible to use an logical or operator in order to avoid redundancy? I didn't succeed with this attempt: save-hook (~t|~c) [EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux -- Cheers, Heiko Heil msg25479/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logical operator - doc/manual.txt Patterns
* Heiko Heil [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 12:32]: taken from my ~/.muttrc: save-hook ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]|~c [EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux Is it possible to use an logical or operator in order to avoid redundancy? I didn't succeed with this attempt: save-hook (~t|~c) [EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux You cannot apply logic to mutt's pattern styles. (ehem) However, there's ~C which does what you intended. save-hook ~C [EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux Homework: Print out section 4.2 Patterns of the doc/manual.txt and learn it by heart. There will be a test on Monday... ;-) Sven [preparing a mutt workshop in Berlin] -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html
Re: Non-interactive command line send
14-Mar-02 at 12:39, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote / schreibt : now, if crontab does all this then you probably have to use /dir/mutt. You telepathic fiend you. (idiomatic word order, for your English notes Sven) hmm... make mutt use some non-standard setup file then by applying the option -F file: echo smooches | mutt -F /dev/null .. Works a charm. Kudos to Markus as well, who sent this to me off list. anyway, I find a page like this much mor effective: http://www-ttp.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de/cartoons/ (funnies in english and german) enjoy! :-) Cool page, however the beauty of email is offline consultation, which is why my Garfield goes to my wife by email. She costs me enough on 'phone bills as it is without reading all those good cartoons over my poor dialup line which costs me at least $50 a month and I rarely do anything but local calls. But then, that's Morocco. /Really/ puts bitching about $40 a month DSL into perspective. Mail-Followup-To: Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mutt User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] this is a closed list, isn't it? Don't follow... what am I doing wrong? -- John Lennon:--v [Simon White. vim/mutt/Linux. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS: 39.82%] Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along.
Re: yymmdd is *informal*, dammit!
* Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 12:17]: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 12:09]: * Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 09:27]: , | ELISP (parse-time-string 020313 14:17) | (0 17 14 nil nil nil nil nil nil) ` looks like the parsing can still be enhanced. *ehem* How should it infer the year format, get the seconds and work out the timezone from the above data? Even if the seconds is considered lossy the other two items of data seem pretty vital, even if the parser isn't an editor. I am using the format yymmdd on my *webpages* - and for dates only. apart from that I was using it in the attribution - with hh:mm. but if applied to messages - which century can this be? 1900? 2100? Think, man, THINK! no - try HARDER! ;-) anwyay, when there are no seconds given then this will evaluate to nil, right? is there a problem with that? idontthinkso. folks - this format is not supposed to be a full replacement for dates in message headers. it is just *date*. and I have certainly not been using it at the beginning of the 20th century - and I will probably not us it at the end of this century. and I don't care what emacs makes of it. as if you couldn't guess. sheesh. Sven [020314 13:52 - *my* time, here.]
Re: Non-interactive command line send
Am 14.03.2002 um 12:51:27 + schrieb Simon White folgendes: 14-Mar-02 at 12:39, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote / schreibt : now, if crontab does all this then you probably have to use /dir/mutt. You telepathic fiend you. (idiomatic word order, for your English notes Sven) We have this in German as well. But we use a comma: You telepathic fiend, you. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus Virchow-Klinikum Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V A - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 Why you can't find your system administrators: Hiding on the roof --Simon Burr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
* Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 12:51]: 14-Mar-02 at 12:39, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote / schreibt : now, if crontab does all this then you probably have to use /dir/mutt. You telepathic fiend you. (idiomatic word order, for your English notes Sven) *grin* Mail-Followup-To: Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mutt User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] this is a closed list, isn't it? Don't follow... what am I doing wrong? well, you have to be subscribed to the list to be able to send to it. so I know that when I reply to the list you'll get a copy. So this Mail-Followup-To seems redundant. Sven
Re: Non-interactive command line send
Simon Ralf -- ...and then Ralf Hildebrandt said... % % Am 14.03.2002 um 12:51:27 + schrieb Simon White folgendes: % % You telepathic fiend you. (idiomatic word order, for your English notes Sven) % % We have this in German as well. But we use a comma: % You telepathic fiend, you. Same here in the US. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
Re: Non-interactive command line send
David, Ralph... % We have this in German as well. But we use a comma: % You telepathic fiend, you. Same here in the US. *Blush* so I should have used a comma too. My mistake. My English is usually so good, too *sarcastic grin*. -- John Lennon:--v [Simon White. vim/mutt/Linux. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS: 39.85%] Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along.
Re: Emails to different folders
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:16:08PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Oliver -- My, but you really should work on your quote trimming. At least I get rid of *some* of the original message! ...and then Oliver Fuchs said... % % On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:32:09AM -0500, David T-G wrote: ... % http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! % % and then I say: Thank you for the time you spent ... O.K. I am going to use procmailI think this is a very good hint ... You're quite welcome. Good idea. % I am not going to do it all in one ...you are absolutly right ... % tagging can pick one save location when you might have meant another, % ... tagging was something I was thinking of before you wrote ... so, welcome to the world of procmail (what is the name of the mailing list?) This one or the procmail list? I dunno the latter... I'm sure that a quick google search will turn it up, though. % % Oliver :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! To all who are interested: Procmail, mutt and fetchmail are not only a better replacement for Lotus Notes ... ... it is more fun to handle it that way ... everything works fine now ... thank you for the help Oliver
Re: list-reply and Mail-Followup-To
* Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 13:08]: Can I set up a keymapping to Reply to the mailing list, rather than hitting g and manually pruning the headers where necessary? *checks manual* Ahh yes there is. L (list-reply). Or whatever you map it to in your muttrcs. Cool. exactly. no mailer is complete without such a command. get the word out to those mail suckers, fellow dog owners! btw, you can unset followup_up to not generate the Mail-Followup-To line. Sven
Re: Emails to different folders
Oliver -- ...and then Oliver Fuchs said... % % On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:16:08PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % My, but you really should work on your quote trimming. At least I get % rid of *some* of the original message! % ... % http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! I see that you still need some work... % % To all who are interested: Procmail, mutt and fetchmail are not only a better replacement for Lotus Notes ... Heck, isn't just about anything a better replacement for Notes? ;-) % ... it is more fun to handle it that way ... everything works fine now ... thank you for the help Happy to help. Now to start on the brutal education program... :-) % % Oliver HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25490/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Watch thread functionality - Usenet
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 12:50:10PM +0100, Sven Guckes wrote: it is possible whenever a followup has a reference to this message - or to a followup which in turn has a reference pointing back at the message. so much for theory. And in practice, mutt does a great job of threading already. It's not perfect for some of the reasons you outline, but it is good enough. hint: you want News aka Usenet and a good newsreader. recommended: gnus, slrn, tin, trn, xnews. (GNKSA!) and then there is mutt plus the NNTP patches.. I don't think I do :) regards john -- I am a complete moron for forgetting about endianness. May I be forever marked as such.
Re: yymmdd is *informal*, dammit!
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 13:52:07 +0100]: * Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 12:17]: How should it infer the year format, get the seconds and work out the timezone from the above data? Even if the seconds is considered lossy the other two items of data seem pretty vital, even if the parser isn't an editor. I am using the format yymmdd on my *webpages* - and for dates only. apart from that I was using it in the attribution - with hh:mm. What do your web pages have to do with this? but if applied to messages - which century can this be? 1900? 2100? Think, man, THINK! no - try HARDER! ;-) When you stop assuming that people who ask you questions, or, even worse, answer them for you, aren't thinking you might stop seeing everything as an argument. Besides, why do you think the century has anything to do with this? and I don't care what emacs makes of it. Yes you do, you asked the question to which emacs was one answer. Further to that you started to suggest that some of its code should adopt your form of writing dates. Have a think about the implications of what all this suggests about the continuity of message. as if you couldn't guess. sheesh. I guessed that this is the sort of response I'd get. I hate being right about this sort of thing sigh. -- Dave Pearson: | lbdb.el - LBDB interface. http://www.davep.org/ | sawfish.el - Sawfish mode. Emacs: | uptimes.el - Record emacs uptimes. http://www.davep.org/emacs/ | quickurl.el - Recall lists of URLs.
Hook question
Hi, I use the nntp patch from vvv. I have folder hooks to change my email for the newsgroups to avoid spam. When i press F to write a follow-up, my address is changed accordingly. Now my question is: is there a way to have my 'normal address' used when I hit 'r' to personnaly reply to a newsgroup user ? Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 13:55:59 +0100]: * Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 12:51]: Don't follow... what am I doing wrong? well, you have to be subscribed to the list to be able to send to it. so I know that when I reply to the list you'll get a copy. So this Mail-Followup-To seems redundant. Could it not be the case that the personal entry in Mail-Followup-To might be pointing to an address with which the author isn't subscribed to the list? This might be an address they monitor all day whereas their mutt subscription might be connected with a less read mailbox somewhere else. The personal followup would alert the author that someone has made a response to an email they've authored. -- Dave Pearson: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.davep.org/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards Mutt: | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility http://www.davep.org/mutt/ | muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
* Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 14:14]: So this Mail-Followup-To seems redundant [on a closed list] Could it not be the case that the personal entry in Mail-Followup-To might be pointing to an address with which the author isn't subscribed to the list? This might be an address they monitor all day whereas their mutt subscription might be connected with a less read mailbox somewhere else. The personal followup would alert the author that someone has made a response to an email they've authored. oh - you mean, this Mail-Followup-To is for extra notification? Let's see... Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (but only for German text); [EMAIL PROTECTED] (if it's about Vim, too), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (to summon my evil ghost), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (when I seem to have gone underground), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for when I'm at unversity), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not for Windows lusers), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (just a spam trap), (and in emergencies call my mum at TEL +49-30-112) My point: If you want notification at other addresses then you can use a filter at your home site. Or you can subscribe to the list with some other address, too. But there is *no* reason to redirect CCs in any form which could be obsolete the very next day. Now, this Mail-Followup-To: needs to be put to better use than creating more problems. Sven
Re: Hook question
* Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-14 09:13 -0500: Hi, I use the nntp patch from vvv. I have folder hooks to change my email for the newsgroups to avoid spam. When i press F to write a follow-up, my address is changed accordingly. Now my question is: is there a way to have my 'normal address' used when I hit 'r' to personnaly reply to a newsgroup user ? Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome folder-hook nntp my_hdr bla1 folder-hook !nntp my_hdr bla2 -Andre msg25496/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook question
* Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-14 09:13 -0500: Hi, I use the nntp patch from vvv. I have folder hooks to change my email for the newsgroups to avoid spam. When i press F to write a follow-up, my address is changed accordingly. Now my question is: is there a way to have my 'normal address' used when I hit 'r' to personnaly reply to a newsgroup user ? Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome Sorry I messed my other posting up. folder-hook nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: news' folder-hook !nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: mail' -Andre msg25498/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Opening html links in text mail
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:15:27PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:09:09PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Is there a way to run a shell script which would automatically read in the current contents of the clipboard, thus avoiding the need for the mouse click? I used to have a program that did this on an earlier version of HP-UX, so it is possible. It just echoed the clipboard contents to stdout. I don't think I have it any more, though, so you might see if freshmeat has one. Eureka! Check out http://freshmeat.net/projects/xclip/: xclip is a command line utility that is designed to run on any system with an X11 implementation. It provides an interface to X selections (the clipboard) from the command line. It can read data from standard in or a file and place it in an X selection for pasting into other X applications. xclip can also print an X selection to standard out, which can then be redirected to a file or another program. I haven't tried it yet myself, but it looks like it should do exactly what you want. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: Hook question
Andre, et al -- ...and then Andre Berger said... % % folder-hook nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: news' % folder-hook !nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: mail' Since one doesn't change folders without leaving the folder, you might say, couldn't the send-hooks be left out and you just set the From: header when you enter each folder? % % -Andre % HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25500/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 15:26:01 +0100]: oh - you mean, this Mail-Followup-To is for extra notification? Please actually read what I write. I mean it could be one use for someone. You asked a question, I provided one possible answer. Once again it seems that such a question is really an attempt at trolling for arguments sigh. Seriously Sven, try assuming that there's more than one way to do things and that methods other than the one you prefer might also be reasonable. Also try reading what people write, not what you'd like them to write so you can start to try and hold them responsible for your inventions. I'm sure you're able. If you want notification at other addresses then you can use a filter at your home site. If it's feasible (and, in most cases, why wouldn't it be?) then, yes, that's another way of doing things. Where exactly did I say the possible answer I provided was the only way of doing things? Or you can subscribe to the list with some other address, too. Can't you see how that wouldn't work? Or, more to the point, how you'd be back where you started. But there is *no* reason to redirect CCs in any form which could be obsolete the very next day. Eh? Now, this Mail-Followup-To: needs to be put to better use than creating more problems. What problems? -- Dave Pearson: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.davep.org/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards Mutt: | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility http://www.davep.org/mutt/ | muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
Re: Fw: error w/ muttprint (or Latex)
Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . [EMAIL PROTECTED] may have typed [02/03/14 05:47]: the error log shows the following, which makes me suspect it is a Latex error, but I may be wrong. I have *not* ever used or configured Latex on my machine. snip Output written on mail.dvi (1 page, 2124 bytes). The log output shows that Latex worked fine and generated the .dvi file. dvips: warning: no config file for `lp0' This is dvipsk 5.86 p1.5d Copyright 1996-2001 ASCII Corp.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) based on dvipsk 5.86 Copyright 1999 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) ' TeX output 2002.03.13:2028' - | lpr -Plp0 texc.pro. [1] Status Information: sending job 'spavri@localhost+402' to lp0@localhost connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1 connected to 'localhost' requesting printer lp0@localhost job 'spavri@localhost+402' transfer to lp0@localhost failed error 'NONZERO RFC1179 ERROR CODE FROM SERVER' with ack 'ACK_FAIL' sending str '^Blp0' to lp0@localhost error msg: 'spool queue for 'lp0' does not exist on server localhost.localdoma$ error msg: ' non-existent printer or you need to run 'checkpc -f'' this part leads me to believe that dvips is trying to find and print to the default printer lp0 without piping it to the stdout as you want it to do. man dvips gives the -f option to run it as a filter. -fRun as a filter. Read the .dvi file from standard input and write the PostScript to standard output. The standard input must be seekable, so it cannot be a pipe. If you must use a pipe, write a shell script that copies the pipe output to a temporary file and then points dvips at this file. This option also disables the automatic reading of the PRINTER environment variable, and turns off the automatic sending of control D if it was turned on with the -F option or in the configuration file; use -F after this option if you want both. so setting dvips -f might work. HTH, sridhar -- Sridhar Srinivasan I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
send-hook for local addresses
Hi Mutters, a short question: I have send-hooks defined to change my .signature depending on the To: address. This works great, for example: send-hook '~C radiomaranon\\.org\\.pe$' set signature=$HOME/.mutt/.signature.rm But I would also like to define a send-hook that hooks when I send to local addresses, i.e. mutt user1 instead of mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]. How can I write the send-hook line for local addresses? Thanks a lot, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v If cows could fly, would we still have ground beef?
Re: send-hook for local addresses
Andy -- ...and then Andy Spiegl said... % % Hi Mutters, Hello! % % a short question: ... % But I would also like to define a send-hook that hooks when I send to % local addresses, i.e. mutt user1 instead of mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]. % % How can I write the send-hook line for local addresses? I haven't tested it yet, and I don't know how clever the regex engine is for hooks, but have you tried send-hook [^@]* ... yet? % Thanks a lot, % Andy. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25504/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
bounce/forward message with all attachments
I often receive attachments with Mac encoding which I need to bounce or forward to another email address. How do I get the 'forward' and 'bounce' commands to automatically include all the attached files in the original mail? -- Rory Campbell-Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.campbell-lange.net
Re: Hook question
* Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-14 09:13 -0500: Hi, I use the nntp patch from vvv. I have folder hooks to change my email for the newsgroups to avoid spam. When i press F to write a follow-up, my address is changed accordingly. Now my question is: is there a way to have my 'normal address' used when I hit 'r' to personnaly reply to a newsgroup user ? Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome Sorry I messed my other posting up. folder-hook nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: news' folder-hook !nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: mail' That cannot work as I don't change folders between replying to the newsgroup (hitting 'F') or personnally to a user (hitting 'r'). It could have been done using ~h and searching for Newsgroups: in the header but send-hook doesn't allow to use ~h. And I cannot use ~t because when you reply to a newsgroup you don't have any To: line in the header... Thanks anyway ;) Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?
This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote: Nope; I sign everything except for a few special cases, so I just use send-hooks, and I just gave him my example and let him convert to folders on his own. Excercises for the student and all :-) No need; I sign everything except for two addresses, and one of those is only to ease testing. And I'm gonna modify those later so that for the first of the two, it turns on classic inline signing. msg25507/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
This one time, at band camp, Simon White wrote: Ahh yes there is. L (list-reply). Or whatever you map it to in your muttrcs. Cool. Except it doesn't work with any mailing list I've tried. Including, for example, this one... msg25508/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 12:20:06PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: This one time, at band camp, Simon White wrote: Ahh yes there is. L (list-reply). Or whatever you map it to in your muttrcs. Cool. Except it doesn't work with any mailing list I've tried. Including, for example, this one... I believe you need to tell mutt which addresses are lists - look at the lists and subscribe keywords, in the mutt docs. HTH! -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg25509/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
14-Mar-02 at 12:20, Shawn McMahon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : This one time, at band camp, Simon White wrote: Ahh yes there is. L (list-reply). Or whatever you map it to in your muttrcs. Cool. Except it doesn't work with any mailing list I've tried. I just hit SHIFT-L and this resulted: a reply to the Mailing list only. I notice you're running 1.2.5.1i whereas I have 1.3.27 which makes a big difference, no doubt. -- John Lennon:--v [Simon White. vim/mutt/Linux. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS: 40.12%] Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along.
Re: tagging/deleting weirdness
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002, Sven Guckes wrote: * Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 09:29]: This is all at least in 1.3.27. If I tag messages, and then hit ';d', it doens't apply 'd' to the tagged messages, only the one the indicator is on. check the bindings of these keys then! (you know, use help with '?' ;-) Oh, stupid me. My bad. I have a macro for 'd', but thought it was only for the pager. Thanks. -Ken
Re: bounce/forward message with all attachments
Rory -- ...and then Rory Campbell-Lange said... % % I often receive attachments with Mac encoding which I need to bounce or % forward to another email address. How do I get the 'forward' and % 'bounce' commands to automatically include all the attached files in the % original mail? Since 'b'ounce just reinjects the message with a new destination, it should arrive complete. If you go with forwarding, then you'll want to make sure you have $mime_forward turned on and $mime_forward_decode turned off. % -- % Rory Campbell-Lange % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % www.campbell-lange.net :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25513/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: attribution line with 80 chars max
* John Buttery [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-13 06:01 -0600]: Oh, I definitely agree that the ISO format is the way to go. Although I would change it a bit since technically the hyphens (-) are unnecessary due to the fields being fixed-length, but that's a bigger nitpick than even I am willing to seriously make. Well, the ISO spec does state that the hyphens are optional. 2001-03-13 06:01 and 20010313T0601 are equivalent in terms of ISO 8601, but I know which one I'd rather read. And, while we're on the topic, you can see my preferred attribution line. It's a modified Sven because I prefer the ISO 8601 format and because time zone is often useful in placing when a message was sent. Most (if not all) of the mailing lists I'm on span multiple time zones. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / DNRC / UMBC-LUG: http://lug.umbc.edu PGP: ID: D8C75CF5 print: 0A7D B3AD 2D10 1099 7649 AB64 04C2 05A6 --- -- Hello . . . my name is Inigo Montoya; you killed my father . . . prepare to die. . . . --- --
Re: send-hook for local addresses
Hi David, I haven't tested it yet, and I don't know how clever the regex engine is for hooks, but have you tried send-hook [^@]* ... yet? No, I haven't. Great idea... and it worked! So mutts regex engine is really smart :-) Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v An artist cannot speak about art, any more than a plant can discuss horticulture.
Re: OT: attribution line with 80 chars max
* Martin Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 20:26:29 +0100]:
* Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 20.02 +0100]:
* Phil Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 12:43:53 +]:
I tried:
attribution=* %f [%{%Y-%m-%e %k:%M:%S %z}]:
Why not set the date-part in $date_format, like so:
set attribution=* %n %a [%d]:
and
set date_format=%Y-%m-%d %H.%M %Z
Good idea.
Now it works, I have to use %Z instead of %z.
attribution=* %f [%{%Y-%m-%e %k:%M:%S %Z}]:
I don't know why, but now it works.
Thanks.
Nicolas
Subject: Re: Opening html links in text mail
* On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:09:09PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: I used to highlight and copy the address into the browser (netscape). But, this seems a bit clumsy. It was clumsy, in fact. For the Cygwin mutt users among us, I do the following to view URLs in IE by highlighting the link then pressing F11 (it uses Window's start, assumes you are using rxvt and have installed perl and misc-0.9.2-1.tar.gz): 1. Create shell script viewurl: #!/bin/sh clipboard=`getclip | perl -pe 's/\n?\r?//g'` start $clipboard 2. Add this to .muttrc: macro pager F11 ! viewurl\n Simulate the real urlview by spawning IE Bob Heckel - Protect yourself from spam, use http://sneakemail.com
Re: OT: attribution line with 80 chars max
* Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 20:38:15 +0100]:
* Martin Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 20:26:29 +0100]:
* Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 20.02 +0100]:
* Phil Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 12:43:53 +]:
I tried:
attribution=* %f [%{%Y-%m-%e %k:%M:%S %z}]:
Why not set the date-part in $date_format, like so:
set attribution=* %n %a [%d]:
and
set date_format=%Y-%m-%d %H.%M %Z
Good idea.
Now it works, I have to use %Z instead of %z.
attribution=* %f [%{%Y-%m-%e %k:%M:%S %Z}]:
Stupid me, of course I want
attribution=* %f [%{%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z}]:
Nicolas (who should go to bed now, and get rid of his cold)
Re: OT: attribution line with 80 chars max
* Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 20.44 +0100]:
[...SNIP...]
Now it works, I have to use %Z instead of %z.
attribution=* %f [%{%Y-%m-%e %k:%M:%S %Z}]:
Stupid me, of course I want
attribution=* %f [%{%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z}]:
Nicolas (who should go to bed now, and get rid of his cold)
Why not bring a laptop and answer some really important e-mails?
;-)
--
Martin Karlsson
I welcome mail encrypted with PGP/GPG.
See headers for my public key.
msg25522/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature
Re: editors and paragraphs
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 09:21:49AM +, Dave Pearson wrote: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-13 17:40:27 +0100]: * MuttER [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020313 14:17]: Many editors would have difficulty recognizing and parsing your date format. Which editors parse for dates? examples? (anyone?) Some people consider emacs to be an editor. the standard joke on that topic is that emacs is an operating system in need of a good editor (ymmv). -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: Subject: Re: Opening html links in text mail
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 02:40:27PM -, The spice must flow wrote: * On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:09:09PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: I used to highlight and copy the address into the browser (netscape). But, this seems a bit clumsy. It was clumsy, in fact. For the Cygwin mutt users among us, I do the following to view URLs in IE by highlighting the link then pressing F11 (it uses Window's start, assumes you are using rxvt and have installed perl and misc-0.9.2-1.tar.gz): 1. Create shell script viewurl: #!/bin/sh clipboard=`getclip | perl -pe 's/\n?\r?//g'` start $clipboard 2. Add this to .muttrc: macro pager F11 ! viewurl\n Simulate the real urlview by spawning IE which part is dependent upon rxvt? (other terminal windows, including the console-window that cygwin runs in would suffice). -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: yymmdd is *informal*, dammit!
On 2002-03-14 13:52 +0100, Sven Guckes wrote: I am using the format yymmdd on my *webpages* - and for dates only. apart from that I was using it in the attribution - with hh:mm. but if applied to messages - which century can this be? 1900? 2100? Think, man, THINK! no - try HARDER! ;-) I feel like I'm stating the obvious, but -- what makes you think the main problem is the century ? It's not. The problem is that an external observer who doesn't know your personal date format cannot guess whether 010203 is 2001-02-03 or 2003-02-01 or even 2003-01-02. It's like for 01/02 which means january the 2nd in the US and february the 1st in France, UK, and other countries. -- André Majorel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/
Re: Opening html links in text mail
* On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 03:08:41PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: which part is dependent upon rxvt? (other terminal windows, including the console-window that cygwin runs in would suffice). rxvt is not required (just convenient). Bob Heckel - Protect yourself from spam, use http://sneakemail.com
Re: logical operator
On 020314, at 13:31:55, Heiko Heil wrote taken from my ~/.muttrc: save-hook ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]|~c [EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux Is it possible to use an logical or operator in order to avoid redundancy? Assuming you had a number of save hooks using the same set of operators, you might find it useful to set the value of $default_hook: set default_hook=~t %s | ~c %s save-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux ... -- David Ellement
[OT] stripping pgp sigs
I know this is more of a procmail question, but no one on the procmail list seems to know or respond... I'm on a lot of mailing lists and I would like to strip out all the pgp sigs from messages but I don't know the correct kungfu to do this w/ procmail. Anyone do this before? --timball -- GPG key available on pgpkeys.mit.edu pub 1024D/511FBD54 2001-07-23 Timothy Lu Hu Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = B579 29B0 F6C8 C7AA 3840 E053 FE02 BB97 511F BD54
Re: ~/Mailbox oddness?
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 07:14:49AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:51:38PM +0100, Maarten den Braber wrote: % % Do you have some 'buffy' kind of program that checks ~/Mailbox? % % To the best of my knowledge, no. Though I'm not sure how that would affect % mutt's ability to keep track of new messages in that box...? Because, as has been discussed on the list before, mutt doesn't actually know that there are new messages in the box; it simply knows that the modification timestamp (last write) is later than the access time stamp (last read) and, according to the definition that that fits, says there is new mail. If biff or buffy were to update the access timestamp, though, then it wouldn't fit the new mail qualification any more. Thanks Maarten and David, this put me on the right track. It wasn't a biff, buffy kind of thing, and my shell wasn't checking, but I had two other client type apps that -did- check the mailbox periodically. So, I disabled their checking and, voila, mutt is happy. This does bring up in my mind a curious conundrum. The whole concept of apps checking to see if the mailspool has new mail in it can/should be done in such a way so that multiple apps can do it and not squash each others data. Not that much can be done about it at this point, it seems so many apps use this current model. :/ - Myrddin -- ICQ: 22404528 Why Vegan? http://www.firstmagic.com/vegan --
Re: OT: Re: attribution and quotes
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, David T-G wrote: Rob, et al -- ...and then Rob Reid said... % [snip] % Netscape/LookOut users, and David himself seems to enjoy the attention. Actually, I don't, but that doesn't seem to keep it from coming my way, does it? If such attention is the price I pay for using my desired indent string then so be it. Here of all places I'm surprised to get such flack; mutt has a configurable $quote_regexp with a bunch of other chars in there already, and if I used : or | I'd probably never hear this crap. Actually, I'm concidering using for replies. :P msg25530/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logical operator
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Heiko Heil wrote: Hello Mutt-users, taken from my ~/.muttrc: save-hook ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]|~c [EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux Is it possible to use an logical or operator in order to avoid redundancy? I didn't succeed with this attempt: save-hook (~t|~c) [EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux Try this one: save-hook ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux msg25531/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Opening html links in text mail
Yes!! This is just what I wanted. xclip -o just dumps the current clipboard into your script. Very nice. Very userful. Whata great utility. Thanks, Joel On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 07:49:14AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:15:27PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:09:09PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Is there a way to run a shell script which would automatically read in the current contents of the clipboard, thus avoiding the need for the mouse click? I used to have a program that did this on an earlier version of HP-UX, so it is possible. It just echoed the clipboard contents to stdout. I don't think I have it any more, though, so you might see if freshmeat has one. Eureka! Check out http://freshmeat.net/projects/xclip/: xclip is a command line utility that is designed to run on any system with an X11 implementation. It provides an interface to X selections (the clipboard) from the command line. It can read data from standard in or a file and place it in an X selection for pasting into other X applications. xclip can also print an X selection to standard out, which can then be redirected to a file or another program. I haven't tried it yet myself, but it looks like it should do exactly what you want. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
am I having list probs
Has traffic disappeared or do I have list problems?? Please cc: me at the reply-to address in header. tks -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 7:36pm up 3:05, 6 users, load average: 0.17, 0.10, 0.04
Re: send-hook for local addresses - negated pattern
* Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 17:54]: I haven't tested it yet, and I don't know how clever the regex engine is for hooks, but have you tried send-hook [^@]* ... yet? No, I haven't. Great idea... and it worked! So mutts regex engine is really smart :-) send-hook ! @ 'set signature=~.sig/foo' note the '!' which negates the pattern. it's all in the manual... ;-) Sven [it just needs more examples] -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html
Re: [OT] stripping pgp sigs [procmail]
* Timothy Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 22:01]: I'm on a lot of mailing lists and I would like to strip out all the pgp sigs from messages but I don't know the correct kungfu to do this w/ procmail. Anyone do this before? :0 * Content-Type: multipart/signed DEVNULL works for me. ;-) Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Latest version: PROCMAIL HomePage: http://www.procmail.org/ | procmail-3.22 [011009] PROCMAIL http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/procmail/ PROCMAIL http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/setup/procmailrc
Re: Opening html links in text mail
This really is way cool. With KDE, I just dragged the script file onto my bottom panel. Now, I just highlight the link in mutt, hit the icon on the bottom panel, and netscape starts up, etc. Linux is an acquired taste. Joel On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:53:17PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Yes!! This is just what I wanted. xclip -o just dumps the current clipboard into your script. Very nice. Very userful. Whata great utility. Thanks, Joel On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 07:49:14AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:15:27PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:09:09PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Is there a way to run a shell script which would automatically read in the current contents of the clipboard, thus avoiding the need for the mouse click? I used to have a program that did this on an earlier version of HP-UX, so it is possible. It just echoed the clipboard contents to stdout. I don't think I have it any more, though, so you might see if freshmeat has one. Eureka! Check out http://freshmeat.net/projects/xclip/: xclip is a command line utility that is designed to run on any system with an X11 implementation. It provides an interface to X selections (the clipboard) from the command line. It can read data from standard in or a file and place it in an X selection for pasting into other X applications. xclip can also print an X selection to standard out, which can then be redirected to a file or another program. I haven't tried it yet myself, but it looks like it should do exactly what you want. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: Opening html links in text mail
* Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 23:34 -0500]:
This really is way cool.
With KDE, I just dragged the script file onto my bottom panel. Now,
I just highlight the link in mutt, hit the icon on the bottom panel,
and netscape starts up, etc.
If you're using KDE 2.x, you can use the klipper utility. It's usually even
installed by default. This utility monitors the X clipboard for certain URL
patterns, and if it encounters one, a window pops up where you can choose:
Open with Galeon
Open with Mozilla
Open with Netscape
...
Send URL
Send Page
etc.
Also, if you use konsole as a terminal, you can just double-click on a URL and
the whole URL is selected automagically. This also works with GNOME's
terminals.
Linux is an acquired taste.
KDE works fine on FreeBSD, too :-)
Gerhard
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Re: Non-interactive command line send
On Mar 14, Sven Guckes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: * Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 10:24]: I have a script which grabs today's Garfield comic, and /should/ then send it on to my wife. This is what I have: mutt -x -s Daily\ Garfield -a ga$theimg.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo smooches | mutt -s Daily Garfield -a ga$theimg.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] FWIW you can also just redirect stdin from something like /dev/null if you want a completely empty body. Pretty standard *nix stuff. mutt -s foo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -a img.jpg /dev/null msg25542/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
