Re: Opening html links in text mail
14-Mar-02 at 23:34, Joel Hammer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : This really is way cool. With KDE, I just dragged the script file onto my bottom panel. Now, I just highlight the link in mutt, hit the icon on the bottom panel, and netscape starts up, etc. I thought you wanted to avoid a mouse click. I have a browser open most of the time, so I just highlight the link - middle button in browser content frame - Bingo! This avoids having to go all the way down to the panel to click an icon. The clipboard contents are automatically surfed to in NS and Opera, don't know about Mozilla but would assume the same is true. On an somewhat related note, I have a mutt icon in PNG format which is the right size for the bottom panel if KDE users want an icon to automatically launch Mutt (I use xterm -e mutt) from the panel. -- John Lennon:--v [Simon White. vim/mutt/Linux. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS: 41.12%] Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along.
Re: ~/Mailbox oddness?
14-Mar-02 at 15:15, J. Scott Dorr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : This does bring up in my mind a curious conundrum. The whole concept of apps checking to see if the mailspool has new mail in it can/should be done in such a way so that multiple apps can do it and not squash each others data. Not that much can be done about it at this point, it seems so many apps use this current model. :/ Why do you need more than one app to check for new mail? Pick one that does what you want (play sounds, beep, animate something) and that should do all you need, no? Mutt already has a beep_new function you can use for an audible new mail warning. Indeed, hunting through the manual... Utilities like biff or frm or any other program which accesses the mailbox might cause Mutt to never detect new mail for that mailbox if they do not properly reset the access time. Backup tools are another common reason for updated access times. [sec 3.11] So it may be OK to use multiple utilities as long as they behave. -- John Lennon:--v [Simon White. vim/mutt/Linux. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS: 41.13%] Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along.
Re: Hook question
I think I have the solution: send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef[EMAIL PROTECTED]' The first hook is used whenever I hit 'r' and there is a 'To:' line followed by any address. The second hook is used when I hit 'F' (newsgroup followup). It matches any 'To:' line where the address is not anything... thus matching no 'To:' line at all. It's maybe a 'dirty trick' but it does it ;) Jerome * Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-14 13:14 -0500: * Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-14 09:13 -0500: Hi, I use the nntp patch from vvv. I have folder hooks to change my email for the newsgroups to avoid spam. When i press F to write a follow-up, my address is changed accordingly. Now my question is: is there a way to have my 'normal address' used when I hit 'r' to personnaly reply to a newsgroup user ? Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome Sorry I messed my other posting up. folder-hook nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: news' folder-hook !nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: mail' That cannot work as I don't change folders between replying to the newsgroup (hitting 'F') or personnally to a user (hitting 'r'). Well I tested it once, not enough... When I'm in my mbox mutt and hit reply, it get my_hdr mail, when I switch to a newsgroup and hit reply, I get my_hdr news, as expected. But when I go back to mbox mutt and hit reply, still my_hdr news, and I don't see why. Same thing when I replace nntp above with . It could have been done using ~h and searching for Newsgroups: in the header but send-hook doesn't allow to use ~h. Yeah that would make things really easy. And I cannot use ~t because when you reply to a newsgroup you don't have any To: line in the header... When you hit reply via mail, there is a to header ;) -Andre -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
unable to connect to mail server from mutt
Hi, I am using mutt to connect to the mail server to fetch mails. I need to access a pop mail account. When I configure Netscape to do it, I am able to get through to the server and access the mails. However, I am unable to connect to the same server (from the same machine on where I am able to access it thro Netscape) through mutt. :-( (on running mutt and hitting 'c' , it asked for 'Open Mailbox' ) I tried to connect to the server with the command: pop://a.b.c.d where a.b.c.d is the ip address of the mail server when I telnet to port 101 of a.b.c.d, there is a reply saying 'OK' I have configured mutt with --enable-pop option. any help would be great. thanks in advance, regards, Kanagesh
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:03:05 -0600 David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2002.02.23, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . pop_authenticate: Using any available method. AUTH CRAM-MD5 + PDMyNzU3LjEwMjAyMjMxMjUzMzRAaXNwd2VzdGVtYWlsLmFjZXdlYi5uZXQ+ mutt_sasl_cb_authname: getting authname for pop3.ispwest.com:110 mutt_sasl_cb_pass: getting password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.ispwest.com:110 amVycnl2YkBpc3B3ZXN0LmNvbSAxNGI0MjNiMmQ5ODQyNGNjYjY2OTNhZDM2MWM0MTBlMg== +OK jerryvb's mailbox has 665 message(s) (2526032 octets) SASL authentication failed. APOP [EMAIL PROTECTED] c6157f678c257df79923897ddf14ab04 -ERR unknown or invalid command in this state [APOP] APOP authentication failed. USER [EMAIL PROTECTED] -ERR unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] This seems like a disagreement between what happens and what mutt expects to happen. You're authenticating using CRAM-MD5, and the POP server is validating the authentication. Then mutt thinks that is rejected it, so it tries other authentications, which the server does reject, since it's not expecting an authentication anymore. In other words, this looks like a mutt bug. You might try setting $pop_authenticators to work around this. The goal would be not to try authenticating with MD5 -- for example: set pop_authenticators=apop:user I finally got around to trying this. IT WORKED! THANK YOU! At least now I can download all of my mail with Mutt. Thanks -- -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago -- Rev. 1:7 ; Registered Linux User #153217
Re: unable to connect to mail server from mutt
15-Mar-02 at 10:53, Kanagesh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Hi, pop://a.b.c.d where a.b.c.d is the ip address of the mail server when I telnet to port 101 of a.b.c.d, there is a reply saying 'OK' I have configured mutt with --enable-pop option. If this isn't a typo, and your POP server is running on port 101, then you need to do: pop://a.b.c.d:101 you could also try the syntax pop:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:101 It may be that you would be better off using fetchmail and reading mail locally... that's not a solution to the problem but a may well be a good alternative if you receive lots of mail. -- John Lennon:--v [Simon White. vim/mutt/Linux. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS: 41.24%] Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along.
moving complete threads (was Re: patches (colored questions, conditional tag-prefix))
* Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001-11-28 09:44:54 +0530]:
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed
into the ether:
[-- snip --]
I should add, this works also for push commands (and it seems to
work for exec). I use the following in my .muttrc: folder-hook
regex for all mailing list folders push
\tag-pattern~d2w\nuntag-pattern~F|~D\ntag-prefix-condsave-message\n\n\
It moves all messages older than 2 weeks except flagged ones to an
archive folder (I have other folder-hooks to set appropriate
save-hooks).
This is nearly what I would like to do except that I would like to
keep thread together. ie I would like to move thread with all mails
older than X days, read and not flagged.
I want to setup a macro that does this :
1. Tag all messages older than, say, 2 weeks
2. Tag entire threads of those messages, even if some messages in that
thread are newer than 2 weeks.
3. Delete/Save tagged messages.
1, and 3 seem possible, but 2 does not. So far I've been doing it
manually, but as I subscribe to more and more lists it becomes
increasingly tedious.
Any solutions ?
I hope yes. I've written a patch to achieve this. It is not well
tested, but it seems to work, and I had no crash after applying it.
It adds an new pattern ~a. I see only two possible uses of it, T~a\n
and ^T! ~a\n. The first one tags all messages which are in threads
containing any tagged message, the second one untags all messages
which are in threads containing any untagged messages. I should add
that ~a and !~a are not the same module not. The not applies to the
tag status of the other messages in the thread.
As always, use at YOUR OWN RISK. But I would be glad to hear if
anybody considers this patch usefull, or can give me any feedback.
The above push command will soon be, but I have to test a bit before
using it :)
push
\tag-pattern~d2w\nuntag-pattern~N|~O|~F|~D\nuntag-pattern!~a\ntag-prefix-condsave-message\n\n\
PS: Sorry for raking up _old_ threads, but I just desperately need this
one to work !
I hope no one gets angry with me, because of replying to e-mails after
such a long time.
Nicolas
written by Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rachinsky.de
This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published
by the Free Software Foundation; version 2 of the License.
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
General Public License for more details.
--- mutt-1.3.27.orig/PATCHESMon Nov 26 20:16:52 2001
+++ PATCHES Thu Dec 6 16:27:55 2001
@@ -1,0 +1 @@
+1.3.28.nr.threadcomplete
--- mutt-1.3.28.ori/mutt.h Thu Mar 14 19:22:25 2002
+++ mutt.h Fri Mar 15 00:22:41 2002
@@ -198,6 +198,7 @@
M_LIMIT,
M_EXPIRED,
M_SUPERSEDED,
+ M_THREADCOMPLETE,
/* actions for mutt_pattern_comp/mutt_pattern_exec */
M_AND,
--- mutt-1.3.28.ori/pattern.c Thu Mar 14 19:22:26 2002
+++ pattern.c Fri Mar 15 00:23:52 2002
@@ -50,6 +50,7 @@
}
Flags[] =
{
+ { 'a', M_THREADCOMPLETE, 0, NULL },
{ 'A', M_ALL,0, NULL },
{ 'b', M_BODY, M_FULL_MSG, eat_regexp },
{ 'B', M_WHOLE_MSG, M_FULL_MSG, eat_regexp },
@@ -957,6 +958,27 @@
return alladdr;
}
+static int match_threadcomplete(int flag,THREAD *t,int left,int up,int right,int down)
+{
+ int a=0;
+ HEADER *h=NULL;
+
+ if(! t)return 0;
+ h=t-message;
+ if(! flag h h-tagged)return 1;
+ if(flag h ! h-tagged) return 1;
+
+ if(up)a=match_threadcomplete(flag,t-parent,1,1,1,0);
+ if(a)return a;
+ if(right t-parent)a=match_threadcomplete(flag,t-next,0,0,1,1);
+ if(a)return a;
+ if(left t-parent)a=match_threadcomplete(flag,t-prev,1,0,0,1);
+ if(a)return a;
+ if(down)a=match_threadcomplete(flag,t-child,1,0,1,1);
+ if(a)return a;
+ return 0;
+}
+
/* flags
M_MATCH_FULL_ADDRESSmatch both personal and machine address */
int
@@ -1053,6 +1075,8 @@
return (pat-not ^ (h-env-x_label regexec (pat-rx, h-env-x_label, 0,
NULL, 0) == 0));
case M_DUPLICATED:
return (pat-not ^ (h-thread h-thread-duplicate_thread));
+case M_THREADCOMPLETE:
+ return ((h-thread match_threadcomplete(pat-not,h-thread,1,1,1,1)));
}
mutt_error (_(error: unknown op %d (report this error).), pat-op);
return (-1);
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Re: Opening html links in text mail
Simon -- ...and then Simon White said... % % On an somewhat related note, I have a mutt icon in PNG format which is the % right size for the bottom panel if KDE users want an icon to automatically % launch Mutt (I use xterm -e mutt) from the panel. Oooh! Gimme! :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25552/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] stripping pgp sigs
Tim -- ...and then Timothy Ball said... % % I know this is more of a procmail question, but no one on the procmail % list seems to know or respond... % % I'm on a lot of mailing lists and I would like to strip out all the pgp % sigs from messages but I don't know the correct kungfu to do this w/ % procmail. Anyone do this before? Is there a particular reason you want to strip them, or do you just not want to have to verify them? You could just turn off pgp_verify_sig in those folders... % % --timball % % -- % GPG key available on pgpkeys.mit.edu % pub 1024D/511FBD54 2001-07-23 Timothy Lu Hu Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] % Key fingerprint = B579 29B0 F6C8 C7AA 3840 E053 FE02 BB97 511F BD54 :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25553/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: am I having list probs
Pat -- ...and then pat said... % % Has traffic disappeared or do I have list problems?? Please cc: me at % the reply-to address in header. Things have been hoppingly healthy; I think it's you. % % tks % -- % Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 % Registered at: http://counter.li.org % 7:36pm up 3:05, 6 users, load average: 0.17, 0.10, 0.04 :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25554/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook question
Jerome -- ...and then Jerome De Greef said... % % I think I have the solution: Yay! % % send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED]' % send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Does this work, or do you think it should? I'd expect that you'd need ..* in your patterns instead of just .* 'cuz the former is one character plus zero or more characters while the latter still accepts none. Perhaps it works simply because there is a To: header to check versus one being absent; in that case, you can probably leave off the asterisk. % ... % It's maybe a 'dirty trick' but it does it ;) Those are the best :-) % % Jerome HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg2/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
New Mail while in Folder View
Hi all First time poster, so please be gentle! :) I have just upgraded from Outlook 2000 to Mutt. Using the most recent version and starting mutt via mutt -y to default to the folder list. It shows me which folders have new mail in with the N character, but this never updates unless I a) exit and restart mutt b) go into a folder and then back to the folder list Is this the expected operation or have a fscked up? :) If you need any more details, please let me know. Thanks Dean
Optimising my muttrc
Hello, I need some help with my muttrc. I'm still running 1.2.5 as I still can't get the pager to work in 1.3.27... I have 5 main e-mail addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED], @x-ray.org, @imprezaturbo.org, @euronet.nl and @euro.net. I have set up different environments through folder-hooks in my muttrc, but not everything works correctly, for example the 'set postponed' option. What did I do wrong and how can I make my muttrc more readable and efficient? Any help is welcome.. Thanks, Ray ~/.mutt/muttrc: #-*- muttrc -*- set charset=iso-8859-15 set beep set beep_new lists iwoc@yahoogroups\.com mutt-users@mutt\.org linux@nllgg\.nl ignore x-spam macro index X | spamassassin -r Report spam to Razor mailboxes ! ~/Mail/imprezaturbo/in.mbx ~/Mail/spam/in.mbx ~/Mail/x-ray/in.mbx set alternates=raymond@((mail.)(x-ray|psytrance|imprezaturbo).org|(euro(net.nl|.net))) my_hdr X-Registered-Linux-User: 26 my_hdr X-Operating-System: Linux/`uname -r` (`uname -m`) my_hdr X-ICQ: 2987375 folder-hook . unmy_hdr * folder-hook . reset ignore folder-hook . ignore x-spam folder-hook . set folder=~/Mail/personal/archive folder-hook . set postponed=~/Mail/personal/postponed.mbx folder-hook . my_hdr From: 'Raymond A. Meijer' [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder-hook . my_hdr Reply-To: 'Raymond A. Meijer' [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder-hook . set signature=~/.signature folder-hook . set hostname=psytrance.org folder-hook . 'set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook ~/Mail/x-ray/. set folder=~/Mail/x-ray/archive folder-hook ~/Mail/x-ray/. set postponed=~/Mail/x-ray/postponed.mbx folder-hook ~/Mail/x-ray/. my_hdr From: 'Raymond A. Meijer' [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder-hook ~/Mail/x-ray/. my_hdr Reply-To: 'Raymond A. Meijer' [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder-hook ~/Mail/x-ray/. set signature=~/.signature.x-ray folder-hook ~/Mail/x-ray/. set hostname=x-ray.org folder-hook ~/Mail/x-ray/. 'set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook ~/Mail/imprezaturbo/. set folder=~/Mail/imprezaturbo/archive folder-hook ~/Mail/imprezaturbo/. set postponed=~/Mail/imprezaturbo/postponed.mbx folder-hook ~/Mail/imprezaturbo/. my_hdr From: 'Raymond A. Meijer' [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder-hook ~/Mail/imprezaturbo/. my_hdr Reply-To: 'Raymond A. Meijer' [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder-hook ~/Mail/imprezaturbo/. set signature=~/.signature.imprezaturbo folder-hook ~/Mail/imprezaturbo/. set hostname=imprezaturbo.org folder-hook ~/Mail/imprezaturbo/. 'set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook ~/Mail/spam/. set folder=~/Mail/spam/archive folder-hook ~/Mail/spam/. unignore * --
Re: am I having list probs
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-15-02 07:21] crowed: Pat -- ...and then pat said... % % Has traffic disappeared or do I have list problems?? Please cc: me at % the reply-to address in header. Things have been hoppingly healthy; I think it's you. I believe that linuxfreemail.com had some problems. There was no traffic for about 16 hrs but seems ok now. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 8:06am up 10:55, 6 users, load average: 0.06, 0.06, 0.06
unable to send mail from mutt...
Hi, I'm using mutt to connect to a mail server. I can access my mail box and receive all mails, but when I try to send a mail, I am not able to. I guess mutt uses sendmail in the local system to SEND mails and POP to access mails from the server (am I right??) . I am able to connect to the server successfully and access all my mails. Initially, mutt was assuming the FROM address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (but it should have been [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). I added hclinfinet.com to the from field of .muttrc, but that hasn't helped sending a mail out of my system. any help would be great. thanks in advance. regards, kanagesh.
Re: unable to send mail from mutt...
On 15/03/02 Kanagesh did speaketh: Hi, I'm using mutt to connect to a mail server. I can access my mail box and receive all mails, but when I try to send a mail, I am not able to. I guess mutt uses sendmail in the local system to SEND mails and POP to access mails from the server (am I right??) . I am able to connect to the server successfully and access all my mails. Initially, mutt was assuming the FROM address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (but it should have been [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). I added hclinfinet.com to the from field of .muttrc, but that hasn't helped sending a mail out of my system. any help would be great. thanks in advance. Mutt expects to use sendmail to send it's email, yes. So, this is primarily a sendmail configuration problem, not a problem in Mutt. You can test sendmail directly to see what it does: [msoulier@tigger msoulier]$ /usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] testing Note that I hit Ctrl-D at the end to send an EOF char to sendmail. This message now arrives in my inbox successfully, and even though I sent it from the command-line as msoulier, the From: field is [EMAIL PROTECTED], because I have instructed the mail server to perform that mapping for me. I'm actually using Exim, not Sendmail. I assume you're using sendmail? Is your sendmail configured to deliver mail to internet hosts? If it's just the From: field you need to fix, that shouldn't be a problem. In the sendmail.mc file, put FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl MASQUERADE_AS(your.domain.com)dnl Regenerate with m4 ../m4/cf.m4 sendmail.mc sendmail.cf (or add include(`../m4/cf.m4') at the top) Install your new sendmail.cf and restart sendmail. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix msg25560/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: unable to send mail from mutt...
Kanagesh -- ...and then Kanagesh said... % % Hi, Hello! % % I'm using mutt to connect to a mail server. I can access my mail box % and % receive all mails, but when I try to send a mail, I am not able to. I % guess % mutt uses sendmail in the local system to SEND mails and POP to access % mails from the server (am I right??) . I am able to connect to the Yep; that's exactly right. % server % successfully and access all my mails. Initially, mutt was assuming the % FROM address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (but it should have % been [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). I added hclinfinet.com to the from % field of .muttrc, but that hasn't helped sending a mail out of my % system. That's not the issue; you need to have sendmail working so that anything else on the box could send mail out. If you don't have or want sendmail itself, many folks prefer qmail, postfix, or exim, and there are really simple talk-to-a-smart-mailhost-and-do-nothing-else programs like ssmtp that have worked well for folks who pop or fetch (generally preferred over mutt's pop support, BTW) their mail. % % any help would be great. thanks in advance. HTH HAND % % regards, % kanagesh. % :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25561/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
This one time, at band camp, Jeremy Blosser wrote: Not for list-reply. The important thing to make this command work is letting mutt know which mails are from lists, using the 'subscribe' and 'lists' commands. Bleargh. What a pain in the ass. Most of my mailing lists identify themselves with non-standard but commonly-used headers, and you'd think it could at least intuit a mailing list and prompt, even with the ones that don't, with a few exceptions. msg25562/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: unable to send mail from mutt...
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 15/03/02 Kanagesh did speaketh: Hi, I'm using mutt to connect to a mail server. I can access my mail box and receive all mails, but when I try to send a mail, I am not able to. I guess mutt uses sendmail in the local system to SEND mails and POP to access mails from the server (am I right??) . I am able to connect to the server successfully and access all my mails. Initially, mutt was assuming the FROM address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (but it should have been [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). I added hclinfinet.com to the from field of .muttrc, but that hasn't helped sending a mail out of my system. any help would be great. thanks in advance. Mutt expects to use sendmail to send it's email, yes. So, this is primarily a sendmail configuration problem, not a problem in Mutt. You can test sendmail directly to see what it does: [msoulier@tigger msoulier]$ /usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] testing Note that I hit Ctrl-D at the end to send an EOF char to sendmail. This message now arrives in my inbox successfully, and even though I sent it from the command-line as msoulier, the From: field is [EMAIL PROTECTED], because I have instructed the mail server to perform that mapping for me. I'm actually using Exim, not Sendmail. I assume you're using sendmail? Is your sendmail configured to deliver mail to internet hosts? If it's just the From: field you need to fix, that shouldn't be a problem. In the sendmail.mc file, put FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl MASQUERADE_AS(your.domain.com)dnl Regenerate with m4 ../m4/cf.m4 sendmail.mc sendmail.cf (or add include(`../m4/cf.m4') at the top) Install your new sendmail.cf and restart sendmail. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix had the same problem ... if you are using sendmail it seems that your mail is stored inthe queue ... so after you send your mail with mutt try 'mailq' to see what is in the queue ... if your mail is there, type 'sendmail -v -q'(as root) and your mail from the queue will be send Oliver
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % This one time, at band camp, Jeremy Blosser wrote: % % Not for list-reply. The important thing to make this command work is % letting mutt know which mails are from lists, using the 'subscribe' and % 'lists' commands. % % Bleargh. What a pain in the ass. Most of my mailing lists identify Well, it gets better than that; mutt can decide what to do based on whether you're subscribed to the list or not, so you have to have both commands. % themselves with non-standard but commonly-used headers, and you'd think % it could at least intuit a mailing list and prompt, even with the ones % that don't, with a few exceptions. So, since lists are so easy to recognize, have a script that generates mailing list names from your directories and put something like subscribe `/my/cool/lists/script.pl -s` lists `/my/cool/lists/script.pl -l` into your muttrc. Post it when you get it done, too, so that the rest of us can see how easy it is; we're all slaving away with lines like subscribe mutt-users empeg ice-bucket lists gnupg-users remind-fans suse-security in our config files. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25564/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: unable to send mail from mutt...
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Kanagesh wrote: Hi, I'm using mutt to connect to a mail server. I can access my mail box and receive all mails, but when I try to send a mail, I am not able to. I guess mutt uses sendmail in the local system to SEND mails and POP to access mails from the server (am I right??) . I am able to connect to the server successfully and access all my mails. Initially, mutt was assuming the FROM address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (but it should have been [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). I added hclinfinet.com to the from field of .muttrc, but that hasn't helped sending a mail out of my system. any help would be great. thanks in advance. regards, kanagesh. I had the same problem ... if you are running sendmail your mail is stored in the queue to check this try 'mailq' (as root) ... if your mail is in the queue run 'sendmail -v -q' and it will be send ...hope that helps Oliver
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote: So, since lists are so easy to recognize, have a script that generates mailing list names from your directories and put something like Mailing lists aren't easy to recognize, at least when they don't put in a header, but you're forgetting that this will only come up if the user hits the list-reply key, thereby TELLING mutt that the email was from a list. That simplifies matters immensely. Does that mean you can always tell what the list address is? No, of course not. You check for header lines with post in them, and pull addresses. If there aren't any, you pop up the From: as a default, and let the user userride it like any other prompted option. This will miss a lot of lists. So only require the user to hint those in the config file, not ALL of them. Why do people assume any solution that doesn't work 100% of the time is a bad solution? Most solutions fit the most common case and try not to make any irrevocable choices in the others. msg25566/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
On Mar 15, Shawn McMahon [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: This one time, at band camp, Jeremy Blosser wrote: Not for list-reply. The important thing to make this command work is letting mutt know which mails are from lists, using the 'subscribe' and 'lists' commands. Bleargh. What a pain in the ass. Most of my mailing lists identify themselves with non-standard but commonly-used headers, and you'd think it could at least intuit a mailing list and prompt, even with the ones that don't, with a few exceptions. Mutt's handling of this stuff predates most of these commonly-used headers by years. Recently several people have suggested using these newer list headers to intuit mailing list addresses, but no one who cares has produced working code yet, and the rest of us seem to be following if it ain't broke, don't fix it. msg25567/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-15 09:41:11 -0500]: Mailing lists aren't easy to recognize, at least when they don't put in a header, but you're forgetting that this will only come up if the user hits the list-reply key, thereby TELLING mutt that the email was from a list. Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I want to respond to the list it was from (instead of to the author of the email, or whatever). -- Dave Pearson: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.davep.org/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards Mutt: | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility http://www.davep.org/mutt/ | muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:57:36PM +, Dave Pearson wrote: * Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-15 09:41:11 -0500]: Mailing lists aren't easy to recognize, at least when they don't put in a header, but you're forgetting that this will only come up if the user hits the list-reply key, thereby TELLING mutt that the email was from a list. Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I want to respond to the list it was from (instead of to the author of the email, or whatever). right. the question is, how does mutt know what is the list address, and what is the personal address? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg25569/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
This one time, at band camp, Dave Pearson wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I want to respond to the list it was from (instead of to the author of the email, or whatever). Uh huh. And we're discussing making Mutt handle that without you having to put two statements in the config file for every list you're on, just for the ones that are too hard to figure out programmatically. I maintain that a sufficient percentage of them are NOT too hard to figure out that it's worth doing. msg25570/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % This one time, at band camp, Dave Pearson wrote: % % Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt % that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I % want to respond to the list it was from (instead of to the author of the % email, or whatever). % % Uh huh. And we're discussing making Mutt handle that without you having % to put two statements in the config file for every list you're on, just % for the ones that are too hard to figure out programmatically. BTW, subscribe is a superset of lists; you'll only need one for lists on which you are and then one for lists on which you aren't. % % I maintain that a sufficient percentage of them are NOT too hard to % figure out that it's worth doing. Great. Start coding. Post the result. TIA HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25571/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
On Mar 15, Shawn McMahon [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: This one time, at band camp, Dave Pearson wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I want to respond to the list it was from (instead of to the author of the email, or whatever). Uh huh. And we're discussing making Mutt handle that without you having to put two statements in the config file for every list you're on, just for the ones that are too hard to figure out programmatically. You only need one statement in the config file per list. 'subscribe' and 'lists' are two different but related commands. One is for lists you are subscribed to, the other is for lists you may see mail from/send mail to but are not actually subscribed to. Which of the two you use to tell mutt about a list determines how things like the MFT header are generated. (If you're subscribed, you don't want your address in MFT. If you're not subscribed, you do want your address in MFT.) Note that this distinction is another piece that would be missed if we just relied on the list headers. Also, FWIW, it isn't even one statement per list. You can put as many lists as you want on one line, and the entries themselves are patterns matched against the address, so one entry can match multiple lists if you write it that way. I maintain that a sufficient percentage of them are NOT too hard to figure out that it's worth doing. If you want to see this, you probably need to produce a patch that does it in a quality way. I haven't heard any of the developers interested in changing how it works now. msg25572/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-15 10:17:37 -0500]: This one time, at band camp, Dave Pearson wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I want to respond to the list it was from (instead of to the author of the email, or whatever). Uh huh. And we're discussing making Mutt handle that without you having to put two statements in the config file for every list you're on, just for the ones that are too hard to figure out programmatically. Ok, I see. My apologies, I'd not quite seen that twist (or, rather, I had but had got the wrong end of the stick). I've seen people complain, elsewhere, about having to maintain their lists and subscribe lists. Personally I've not really had much of a problem with it. What sorts of problems do people encounter in this regard? All I've ever been told so far is it's a hassle. I maintain that a sufficient percentage of them are NOT too hard to figure out that it's worth doing. mutt needs a built-in lisp interpreter. ; -- Dave Pearson: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.davep.org/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards Mutt: | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility http://www.davep.org/mutt/ | muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote: BTW, subscribe is a superset of lists; you'll only need one for lists on which you are and then one for lists on which you aren't. Yeah, figured that one out after I posted. :-) Great. Start coding. Post the result. TIA HAND Trust me, you do NOT want my code handling your mail. :-) However, if mutt's authors don't take user requests, that's fine, I'll stop giving feedback. msg25574/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Attachments and GnuPG - sometimes wrong charset
Hi! I found the following problem: If I write an e-mail (charset iso-8859-1), I have no problems signing the mail with gnupg. If I attach another mail (message/rfc822, iso-8859-1) and sign it, 8bit characters get lost in the attachment. This is reproducable if I launch mutt in an utf8 xterm. A xterm with iso-8859-1 or 15 doesn't lead to such problems. It seems that gnupg gets confused with charsets and locales. Does anybody knows a workaround for this problem? Mutt 1.3.27i (2002-01-22) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins und andere. Mutt übernimmt KEINERLEI GEWÄHRLEISTUNG. Starten Sie `mutt -vv', um weitere Details darüber zu erfahren. Mutt ist freie Software. Sie können es unter bestimmten Bedingungen weitergeben; starten Sie `mutt -vv' für weitere Details. System: Linux 2.4.18 (i686) [using slang 10404] Einstellungen bei der Compilierung: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL +USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_IMAP +USE_GSS -USE_SSL +USE_GNUTLS +USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR -HAVE_START_COLOR -HAVE_TYPEAHEAD -HAVE_BKGDSET -HAVE_CURS_SET -HAVE_META -HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +COMPRESSED +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh MIXMASTER=mixmaster Um die Entwickler zu kontaktieren, schicken Sie bitte eine Nachricht (in englisch) an [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Um einen Bug zu melden, verwenden Sie bitte das Programm flea(1). patch-1.3.27.bse.xtitles.1 patch-1.3.26.appoct.3 patch-1.3.15.sw.pgp-outlook.1 patch-1.3.27.admcd.gnutls.17 Md.use_editor Md.paths_mutt.man Md.muttbug_no_list Md.use_etc_mailname Md.muttbug_warning Md.gpg_status_fd patch-1.3.24.rr.compressed.1 patch-1.3.25.cd.edit_threads.9.1 patch-1.3.23.1.ametzler.pgp_good_sign gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.6, xterm XFree86 4.1.0(165), Debian Woody Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | WWW: http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/| | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/pgp.html | msg25575/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Another auto hook question
Ok, I've got a send-hook like this: send-hook ([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]) set pgp_create_traditional However, it still makes the MIME-type application:pgp. Is there a way to make it lie and call them text? Crackmonkey bounces funky MIME-types. msg25576/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and OS5.02
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 04:34:58PM +0100, Pablo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I download mutt 1.2.5.1, and want to install on an SCO openserver 5.02. download , untar were Ok, also configure run OK but at the moment to execute MAKE INSTALL I got this long listing with a lot of errors, Can anyboby help me. Thanks in advance Pablo You need an ANSI C compiler to build mutt. YOu either need to find one on your system, or you can download and compile gcc, and use that. (gcc will bootstrap with a non-ANSI compiler.) -Daniel -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking
Re: set sort_aux problem
Franco Vite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, with 1.3.27 set sort_aux is on date-send With 1.3.28 this command is unknow. Hmm - at least my Mutt's (1.3.28) is working fine with these lines in ~/.muttrc: folder-hook . set sort=threads folder-hook . set sort_aux=date-sent So, could it be, that you have typed 'date-sen_d_'? Nevertheless, works fine with me, so I have not much of a clue why this doesn't work with you. My only idea is, that you have typoed 'date-sent' to 'date-send'. -- Jussi Ekholm | A Elbereth Gilthoniel, silivren penna míriel i Adanedhel| o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]| o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos le linnathon http://ekhowl.goa-head.org | nef aear, sí nef aearon
Re: Another auto hook question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Shawn McMahon on Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 12:38:02PM -0500: Ok, I've got a send-hook like this: send-hook ([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]) set pgp_create_traditional However, it still makes the MIME-type application:pgp. Is there a way to make it lie and call them text? Crackmonkey bounces funky MIME-types. You need to either use a macro to pipe to gpg, or you need to try the Outlook compatibility patch. I believe that the patch was going to be rolled into the main distribution? - -- [!] Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP 0xC9C40C31 -=- http://codesorcery.net http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/01/29/inv.terror.probe/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kj+P94d6K8nEDDERAnN4AJwI7OJnDsKovGUzA5WgK9YH3uoAeACeMy9d ghhYhR36rLYUIRe/HSXLFN8= =PjLH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mutt 1.3.28 configure problem -- gcc 2.95/Solaris 7
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:19:43AM -0600, Drew Raines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dominik Mierzejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What's in the last lines of configure.log?
$ tail -15 config.log
char **argv;
int main() {
return f (e, argv, 0) != argv[0] || f (e, argv, 1) != argv[1];
; return 0; }
configure:1231: checking how to run the C preprocessor
configure:1252: g++ -E conftest.c /dev/null 2conftest.out
configure:1313: checking for function prototypes
configure:1326: checking for ANSI C header files
configure:1339: g++ -E conftest.c /dev/null 2conftest.out
configure:1406: g++ -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c 15
configure:1433: checking for string.h
configure:1443: g++ -E conftest.c /dev/null 2conftest.out
YOu're using g++, which is a C++ compiler, to try to compile mutt. You
want to use gcc instead. FIrst make sure that you have a working gcc
binary around and in your path. Then make sure that the environment
variable CC isn't set to g++. If it is, unset it. If it's not, try
setting it to gcc and see if that helps.
-Daniel
--
Daniel E. Eisenbud
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We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of
undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed
hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms.
--Henry David Thoreau, Walking
Re: Another auto hook question
This one time, at band camp, Justin R. Miller wrote: You need to either use a macro to pipe to gpg, or you need to try the Outlook compatibility patch. I believe that the patch was going to be rolled into the main distribution? Maybe I'm misunderstanding things, but it seems to me that clear-signed message is plain text that happens to contain some PGP text, not an application:pgp-signed message at all, and it is thus broken behavior for mutt to label it as such. What am I missing here? msg25581/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Another auto hook question
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % This one time, at band camp, Justin R. Miller wrote: % % You need to either use a macro to pipe to gpg, or you need to try the % Outlook compatibility patch. I believe that the patch was going to be ... % % What am I missing here? Please check the archives for numerous voluminously vehement discussions regarding PGP-MIME and inline PGP and 7bit and 8bit and QP and LookOut! and more. That should catch you up :-) In particular, look for threads featuring Shane Wegener or Dale Woolridge; Shane originally wrote the pgp_outlook_compat patch and then Dale extended it into the form that has been discussed for inclusion in the stock code. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25583/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: POP New Messages
Jerry -- ...and then Jerry Van Brimmer said... % % Is there a way to tell Mutt to only download the new messages from the POP % server? Yes: tell it to use fetchmail :-) I don't actually know, but I do know that mutt's pop implementation is quite simple (by design). % % -- % Rev. 1:7 ; Registered Linux User #153217 % :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25584/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ~/Mailbox oddness?
Myrddin --- ...and then J. Scott Dorr said... % % On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 09:09:55AM +, Simon White wrote: % % Why do you need more than one app to check for new mail? Pick one that does ... % % Because most of the time, I'm ssh'd to home from work. I attach to a running % screen session that has (among others) 3 different 'windows' that I am almost % constantly in (tf (a mush client), epic (an irc client), and mutt) and all % three of those apps can check to see when new mail comes in. Well, you could always dump the mush client now that you have mutt ;-) % % It would be nice if it didn't matter which window I was in, and the app in ... % new mail check which means I have to periodically jump over to mutt to see % if/when I get new mail. Not a major deal, but something that it seems I % shouldn't -have- to do. Theoretically, yes; it should all work together and it shouldn't matter where you are. Practically, it ain't quite that way. Since you'll lose mutt's new-mail-detection feature anyway, you might as well either let all of your apps check for you or look at starting off such an app, like newmail, when you log in and before you connect to screen so that whatever window is active will get the notification. Since I never change folders but instead kick off new screens windows this works for me :-) % % Mutt already has a beep_new function you can use for an audible new mail % warning. % % Doesn't do me much good given how I access it most of the time. ;) I quite understand :-) I always have a screen running and I have mutt windows as well as shell windows in my standard screenrc file. % ... % So it may be OK to use multiple utilities as long as they behave. % % I agree. But empirical evidence suggests that quite a few don't. Also agreed. % % - Myrddin % -- % ICQ: 22404528 Why Vegan? http://www.firstmagic.com/vegan % -- :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25585/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
This one time, at band camp, David Champion wrote: Personally, I don't like the idea of hard-coding mutt to recognize mailing lists according to commonly-observed trends that aren't specified by a reasonably standard standard. There are many ways to identify a mailing list. Mutt shouldn't need to be trained and maintained to know the latest ones. Ok, but how about the two that are RFCs? msg25586/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 1.3.28 on SunOS 5.8 sparc w/ gcc 3.0.4 (64-bit) - compile problem
* On 2002.03.15, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Brian C. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting the following error when compiling 1.3.28 with gcc 3.0.4 (64-bit) mode. Any ideas? I don't know much about this particularly, but all the problems I've had while using gcc 3.x were resolved by going back to 2.95.2. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
* On 2002.03.15, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one time, at band camp, David Champion wrote: Personally, I don't like the idea of hard-coding mutt to recognize mailing lists according to commonly-observed trends that aren't specified by a reasonably standard standard. There are many ways to identify a mailing list. Mutt shouldn't need to be trained and maintained to know the latest ones. Ok, but how about the two that are RFCs? Are you asking me, or speaking rhetorically? I'd deal with them the same way. If you're really trying to make a request of the development team, you should write to mutt-dev or use the provided program for making feature requests. All you're doing here is griping. If you're lucky, someone will take up your cause and create a patch, but if you honestly want to treat this as a formal feature request, you're better off making a formal feature request. See mutt(1) or flea(1). -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: ~/Mailbox oddness?
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:32:08PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Well, you could always dump the mush client now that you have mutt ;-) Why would I do that? :) Also, I've been using mutt for quite a few years. It's only just now that I'd grown weary enough of the (I thought) broken new mail detection in mutt to complain about it. ;) Since you'll lose mutt's new-mail-detection feature anyway, you might as well either let all of your apps check for you or look at starting off such an app, like newmail, when you log in and before you connect to screen so that whatever window is active will get the notification. The only problem with this is that if I let other apps do it, then my status line in mutt won't be accurate, and mutt won't offer ~/Mailbox as an option to change to when I hit 'c'. I find that much more annoying than having to pop over to mutt from time to time. OT: I love screen. - Myrddin -- ICQ: 22404528 Why Vegan? http://www.firstmagic.com/vegan --
Re: ~/Mailbox oddness?
Myrddin -- ...and then J. Scott Dorr said... % % On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:32:08PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % Well, you could always dump the mush client now that you have mutt ;-) % % Why would I do that? :) *grin* % % Also, I've been using mutt for quite a few years. It's only just now that % I'd grown weary enough of the (I thought) broken new mail detection in mutt to % complain about it. ;) Fair enough. % % Since you'll lose mutt's new-mail-detection feature anyway, you might as % well either let all of your apps check for you or look at starting off % such an app, like newmail, when you log in and before you connect to % screen so that whatever window is active will get the notification. % % The only problem with this is that if I let other apps do it, then my status % line in mutt won't be accurate, and mutt won't offer ~/Mailbox as an option to Right... % change to when I hit 'c'. I find that much more annoying than having to pop Bah; if you know you want to go to ! then just c!enter and you're there. % over to mutt from time to time. The problem is that you want the best of both worlds, but that hasn't yet been coded. A script which keeps a little hash table of last-access and last-mod times for specified files and routinely compares the latest values with each other and the old values would take care of discovering new mail without getting in mutt's way; you could then have *that* at the front of your screen session and still have mutt's display up to date. I've actually grown tired of having all of my mail folders tell me about new mail everywhere, so I changed my mailboxes command to a folder-hook that only gets called in $spoolfile and not elsewhere. Of course, since I use screen I don't kill mutt often, so it hasn't yet taken effect, and because the 1.3.25 that I've been stably using while fighting out the patch cocktail doesn't have Nicolas's unmailboxes command, so I don't *really* know how it will work out in the long run ;-) % % OT: I love screen. It's *awesome*! I've been using it forever and really came to depend on it when I was in lousy dialup country and kept getting knocked off :-) % % - Myrddin % -- % ICQ: 22404528 Why Vegan? http://www.firstmagic.com/vegan % -- :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25591/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 1.3.28 on SunOS 5.8 sparc w/ gcc 3.0.4 (64-bit) - compile problem
Hi David, The only problem with that is that I don't think pre-3.0 versions can be built to be 64-bit compilers. That's not important for mutt, but I would rather just have one compiler to maintain and not multiple ones. Mutt is only package I have had a problem with so far (openssl, openssh, tcp wrappers, qpopper and bind 9, to name a few, have compiled okay). I did have to fix some code to stop using sys_errlist, but I have otherwise had no hitches. I am sure it is a gcc thing, but figured it was worth the post anyway. Thanks for the response. Brian == On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 01:38:56PM -0600, David Champion wrote: * On 2002.03.15, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Brian C. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting the following error when compiling 1.3.28 with gcc 3.0.4 (64-bit) mode. Any ideas? I don't know much about this particularly, but all the problems I've had while using gcc 3.x were resolved by going back to 2.95.2. -- -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago -- _ / Brian C. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://brian.bch.net\ | Unix Specialist BCH Technical Services http://www.bch.net |
Re: orange editor
You may need to use vim, not vi. I tried to emulate your problem but couldn't. Have you got set editor=vim -c 'set tw=72 et' '+/^$' in your .muttrc. HTH Nick
Re: 1.3.28 on SunOS 5.8 sparc w/ gcc 3.0.4 (64-bit) - compile problem
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 11:22:26AM -0800, Brian C. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting the following error when compiling 1.3.28 with gcc 3.0.4 (64-bit) mode. [...] gcc -DPKGDATADIR=\/usr/local/share/mutt\ -DSYSCONFDIR=\/usr/local/etc\ -DBINDIR=\/usr/local/bin\ -DMUTTLOCALEDIR=\/usr/local/share/locale\ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -I. -I. -Iintl -I./intl -I/usr/local/include -Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c sha1.c cc1: Cannot allocate 131072 bytes after allocating 2624733184 bytes This is clearly a gcc bug. Go back to an older compiler or build mutt 32 bit. You should probably report this to the gcc mailing lists too ([EMAIL PROTECTED], I think.) I think that 3.1, when it comes out, is supposed to have significant improvements in its sparc 64 bit support. -Daniel -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking
sending gnupg keys to keyserver
I'm having some trouble sending my public keys to the keyserver that I've setup in my ~/.gnupg/options (keyserver search.keyserver.net). I can download keys without too much trouble, but I get this error when I try to upload gpg --send-keys [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: error sending to 'search.keyserver.net': eof Any ideas on what I'm doing wrongly, or is it the keyserver? Thanks, Steve -- E-Mail: Steven Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/schnes -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GS d? s: !a? C+ UB+ !L !E W++ N w V- !PS PE Y+ PGP+ R !tv b+ DI++ G-- e++ h-- r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
color 'default'
Where does 'default' come from, as whether it gets recognized or not? I ended up installing ncurses into my home directory and mutt built perfectly. I reported this back the server admin and she said that after looking into it, ncurses on the server was indeed screwed. She said she reinstalled it, and when I tried building 1.3.28 just to try the server ncurses, it built fine, and mutt -v reports ncurses 5.2, but default is not recognized when it starts up. In the version I built from ncurses from my home dir, no problem. Thanks. -Ken
Re: color 'default'
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: Where does 'default' come from, as whether it gets recognized or not? for ncurses, it's implemented by the use_default_colors() function. If the configure script doesn't find that, it won't compile-in the support for default into mutt. I ended up installing ncurses into my home directory and mutt built perfectly. I reported this back the server admin and she said that after looking into it, ncurses on the server was indeed screwed. She said she reinstalled it, and when I tried building 1.3.28 just to try the server ncurses, it built fine, and mutt -v reports ncurses 5.2, but default is not recognized when it starts up. In the version I built from ncurses from my home dir, no problem. Thanks. -Ken -- T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
GPG revisited
Hi all, Someone gave me a macro a while back to check every message for PGP-ness. This works ok for local folders, but for IMAP it's really s-l-o-w... Plus after leaving a message and going back to the index, it seems mutt has forgotten about the PGP-ness of other messages (i.e. I either need to hit Esc-P or re-execute the macro). This really isn't ideal. What I'd like to know is if there is a way to tell mutt when I hit enter to enter a message, do an Esc-P first. This way, the delay is much smaller and virtually unnoticable. Really what I'd like is for mutt to do this automatically... If there have been any recent developments in mutt that obviate the need to do something like this, I'd like to know about those too. ;-) Thanks -- Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I prefer mail encrypted with PGP/GPG! GnuPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D Retrieve my public key at http://pgp.mit.edu Learn more about it at http://www.gnupg.org
Re: sending gnupg keys to keyserver
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 01:45:40PM -0700, Steven Schneider wrote: gpg --send-keys [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: error sending to 'search.keyserver.net': eof Any ideas on what I'm doing wrongly, or is it the keyserver? I've been having the same problems for a couple of weeks -- seems to be flaky keyservers. -- ||| echofive at swipnet dot se | icq: 1555989 | http://echo.ashpool.org/ ||| msg25599/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
unsubscribing
I have just subscribed using a new email address but can't get the old address unsubscribed, which is still forwarded to me, so I get two copies of each msg. I've tried changing the 'From:' line in mutt to the old subscription address but the mailing list manager won't accept it. What can I do? -- John
Re: GPG revisited
On Mar 15, Derek D. Martin [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: This really isn't ideal. What I'd like to know is if there is a way to tell mutt when I hit enter to enter a message, do an Esc-P first. This way, the delay is much smaller and virtually unnoticable. Really what I'd like is for mutt to do this automatically... macro index return check-traditional-pgpdisplay-message msg25601/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Running stuff on windows (sans install script)
Because windows doesn't have an install script that works properly, you may be wondering how to get stuff to work without it. This is easily done with environmental variables. Set BTTC_ROOT_DIR to the root dir of whichever source you are using. If you have a CVS checkout, set it to the root of that. If you have a downloaded copy, set it to where the files were unzipped. This will allow you to run the bmed, ved, and bttc scripts in the bin directory. (AS a sidenote, I heard that windows has a problem with the scripts not having a .py ending. Any solutions, anyone? I'll do a little research myself.) If you want to run the scripts individually, you'll need to set PYTHONPATH to the lib directory of whatever you are using. This will let you run a script like lib/battlemech/design.py. If anyone has anything to add to this, let me know. Jonathan
Re: Running stuff on windows (sans install script)
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 11:57:44PM -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote: hey, did you post this to the wrong list? You posted it to mutt-users. Last I checked, mutt didn't have any use for python... :) Yes, I did. Yes, I apologize. (Yes, I am very ashamed... changing the alias mutt to mutt-users...) At some point hitherto, Jonathan Gardner hath spake thusly: Because windows doesn't have an install script that works properly, you may be wondering how to get stuff to work without it.
Re: Optimising my muttrc - set folder
* Raymond A. Meijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-15 13:14]: I need some help with my muttrc. I'm still running 1.2.5 as I still can't get the pager to work in 1.3.27... I have 5 main e-mail addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED], @x-ray.org, @imprezaturbo.org, @euronet.nl and @euro.net. I have set up different environments through folder-hooks in my muttrc, but not everything works correctly, for example the 'set postponed' option. What did I do wrong and how can I make my muttrc more readable and efficient? It's hard to say what you do wrong when you don't give a description about the right thing is supposed to be. ;-) mailboxes ! ~/Mail/imprezaturbo/in.mbx ~/Mail/spam/in.mbx You can abbreviate these using '+' which stands for $folder: set folder=~/Mail mailboxes ! +imprezaturbo/in.mbx +spam/in.mbx +x-ray/in.mbx folder-hook . set folder=~/Mail/personal/archive folder-hook . set postponed=~/Mail/personal/postponed.mbx folder-hook ~/Mail/spam/. set folder=~/Mail/spam/archive folder-hook ~/Mail/x-ray/.set folder=~/Mail/x-ray/archive folder-hook ~/Mail/imprezaturbo/. set folder=~/Mail/imprezaturbo/archive hmm... this will change it all, of course. why do you keep changing it at all? Sven
Re: POP New Messages
OK, I'll bite. How do you tell fetchmail to download only new mail? On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:15:49 -0500 David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry -- ...and then Jerry Van Brimmer said... % % Is there a way to tell Mutt to only download the new messages from the POP % server? Yes: tell it to use fetchmail :-) I don't actually know, but I do know that mutt's pop implementation is quite simple (by design). % % -- % Rev. 1:7 ; Registered Linux User #153217 % :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -- Rev. 1:7 ; Registered Linux User #153217
Re: POP New Messages
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:05:40AM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: OK, I'll bite. How do you tell fetchmail to download only new mail? You don't tell fetchmail anything. If you care to read the manfile; Disposal Options -a, --all (Keyword: fetchall) Retrieve both old (seen) and new mes sages from the mailserver. The default is to fetch only messages the server has not marked seen. Under POP3, this option also forces the use of RETR rather than TOP. Note that POP2 retrieval behaves as though --all is always on (see RETRIEVAL FAILURE MODES below) and this option does not work with ETRN or ODMR. /magnus -- Word of the week: shou tào (mittens) http://x42.com/i/cn/pct/shou_tao.jpg
