, it copies the message content exactly.
The blank line is considered part of the message content, so if present
it also gets copied.
I'm sending this mainly for Chris's benefit, but since I'm sending
I might as well try the list again. BCC to Chris since he used a
Mail-Followup-To.
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* On 25 Mar 2013, David Champion wrote:
I don't know why my last four messages haven't made it through the
mailing list,
Looks like someone (Steve?) fixed gbnet/flirble's smtp? I've been
getting smtp rejections because my dns domain was ostensibly invalid,
but my mail just went through
. But unless you're adding
those yourself, you can't depend on having them. It is therefore best
to append a blank line to messages during local delivery.
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and the
currently hightlighted message gets archived.
What is the correct way to do it?
tag-prefix-cond apply next function ONLY to tagged messages
macro pager,index Sl tag-pattern~h'Return-Path:
u...@example.com'entertag-prefix-condsave-message=Archiveenter
archive messages
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* On 20 Mar 2013, Chris Green wrote:
I suspect my MTA doesn't agree exactly with mutt about where the
'message separator' is.
When your script delivers a message, does it append a message and then
a blank line, or does it append a blank line and then a message?
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that a message (i.e. a From_ line) appears at
the old EOF marker, and that the EOF marker is on/after a blank line.
I think that if you adjust your filter to write the message and then a
blank line instead of a blank line and then a message, the error will go
away.
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of filesystem location and perhaps, for Maildir, flags in the
filename. (MH filenames are always integers with no flags.)
So to make a message 'new' via procmail, you want to delete the Status:
header.
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, make moving the attachment part of
opening it locally, via mailcap.
You could make a script called remoteopen that scps the file and uses
a remote mailcap to open it, then use remoteopen as the local mailcap
handler.
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love to agree with you, but lacking such a provision, I can't.
In mutt, I always group-reply. If you don't like the copy, you can
filter it. If someone else wants the copy, they can't fabricate it, so
I make sure they get it. And if you provide MFT, it's honored.
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* On 20 Feb 2013, Charles Cazabon wrote:
David Champion d...@bikeshed.us wrote:
I haven't kept up as much lately with email RFC as I used to, but I'm
unaware of any standard means of *requesting* a cc (or of declaring
any other reply policy, besides Reply-To:).
Mail-Followup
it's causing you a problem.
[...]
This was a very good explanation, worthy of being a standard answer to
this class of problems. It should be on the wiki.
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.
Note that this is not related to mutt per se, so this may not be the
best group to help. However we can perhaps point you in the right
direction.
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a
mutually-agreed location (e.g. /var/mail/username) or it contacts a
message store (e.g. an IMAP server).
* On 25 Jan 2013, horseriver wrote:
hi:
Would mutt call default mail delivery agent when startup?
thanks!
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?at=default
I missed your commit. I think this patch is an overlap with yours, but
covers the case you're describing as well.
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.)
I've reposted the subjectrx patch to mutt-dev for review. If nobody has
unmitigable negative comments, I'll push it to HEAD.
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on the openness of its codebase, but on the communal origins of its
ideas. So if there's a problem, let's commune.
Mutt would improve if mutt developers [were or did whatever]. Turn
that around. If you are or do whatever, become a developer. You don't
have to write code.
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* On 29 Nov 2012, Chris Green wrote:
What headers does L[ist reply] search for a match to what it has in the
'lists' entry? This isn't specified anywhere in the documentation (not
that I can find anyway).
Documentation patches are always welcome, by the way. :)
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(which was a quick hack when I wrote this last week). It
seems to work fine now.
It also deals with the mbox/maildir (potential) problem, by writing in
mbox format only when the input was in mbox.
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#!/usr/bin/env python
import os
import sys
import time
import
to confess: I had no idea what the Expires: header does until 3
minutes ago. I may make use of this myself. :)
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. Are you using mbox for some folders, and
maildir for others? Formail will always produce output with a UNIXv7
(mbox) From pseudo-header. That could be a factor.
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there was no real
problem, just a simple matter of looking more closely at the file
permissions.
No worries, I'm glad you got it worked out. Sorry I was unresponsive.
It's been the Thanksgiving holiday here in the US, so a lot of us have
been more away from e-mail than usual.
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* On 21 Nov 2012, Marcelo Laia wrote:
On 21/11/12 at 07:00pm, David Champion wrote:
You could create a personal translation, I guess.
Have any idea how to do?
Only roughly (I haven't done it): create your own mutt.po file, override
the right message in it, compile it with msgfmt, choose
* On 21 Nov 2012, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:52:58PM -0600, David Champion wrote:
* On 19 Nov 2012, Chris Bannister wrote:
Ouch! Could you please set the line wrap value in your editor to a
sane value? 72 characters seems to be the recommended setting.
(I
either be user (reader)
error or software error, because it's entirely a consequence of how the
reader's software works or fails to work well.
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, but didn't find anything from a quick
search in TFM. Also, it looks like it's hard-coded in send.c.
Thanks Will, I will change it the day I'll decide to compile it myself...
You could create a personal translation, I guess.
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welcome. I can't stand it,
personally.)
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lightweight markup languages -- reStructuredText,
Markdown, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lightweight_markup_languages
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* On 20 Nov 2012, David Champion wrote:
* On 20 Nov 2012, Peter Davis wrote:
Is there any reasonly easy (non-painful) way to put a table in a
message? A plain text table would be fine if I could limit it to 72
characters wide or so, and if there were a reasonable way to edit
and font files in the roff library
(e.g. /usr/share/groff/version/). To customize them you either need
to:
1. alter the tmac and font file(s)
2. postprocess the table output (more sed?)
3. use a different markup tool from roff
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mutt-table
map T {^M!}mutt-table^M
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instead. Both support serial connections (in
addition to ssh and telnet) and I know that I've used them with success,
though I've forgotten details.
http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.62/htmldoc/Chapter4.html#config-serial
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tera_Term
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the macro.
Sometimes vi/vim/etc have trouble with macros that overlap builtin
behaviors. Maybe there's a problem with T as a binding? Does anyone
who uses vim know?
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sys.stdout.write(data)
return 0
if __name__ == '__main__':
sys.exit(main(sys.argv[1:]))
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password.
That seems like an LDAP problem.
However, more the point, abook can import the LDIF to its own internal
database. Why do you need to load it into LDAP at all?
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From: Chris Green ch...@isbd.co.uk'
and on host cheddar.halon.org.uk:- 'my_hdr From: Chris Green
ch...@halon.org.uk'
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the
script work for anyone, without needing to calculate a zone offset for
your locale.
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index r 'enter-commandset my_wait=$wait_key;set
wait_key=noenterpipe-messageecho \033]0;Sending to:$(formail -x
From:)\007enterreplyshell-escapeecho
\033]0;Mutt\007enterenter-commandset wait_key=$my_waitenter
You could nice that up a lot, but it works.
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/alternative with text/plan and text/html
invisibly becomes just a text/html message. I've also heard of its
breaking crypto, although I haven't seen that myself for a while.
So I forward my mail via SMTP away from my employer now.
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routing, so I'm querying it alone for now.
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to does not validate, but
the signature on the message starting this thread did.
Same result for me, for each post.
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from
https://bitbucket.org/dgc/mutt-dgc/src .
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* On 18 Oct 2012, David Champion wrote:
* On 18 Oct 2012, Derek Martin wrote:
Hi all,
Recently I've been growing increasingly annoyed (at work mainly,
though I've never been a fan generally) with mailing lists which put
[mailinglist name] in the subject line. At work we often get
procmail, maybe i could use it to change something that is
easier to filter? Add a [tag] to the mail maybe.
:0 B
* ^Content-type:.*text/calendar.*
| formail -I X-Label: calendar
Untested but approximately correct.
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encounter
problems using it that are hard to diagnose, since they boil down to
a few characters in a generated muttrc command up to ~1020 characters
long.
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#!/usr/bin/env python
import os
import sys
class KFParseError
as muttrc commands.
You can write a muttrc that emits your standard configuration, then runs
that source command at the end to fill it out with variations based on
current OS.
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* On 21 Jul 2012, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:04:23PM -0500, David Champion wrote:
* On 19 Jul 2012, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
If you define a macro to work with a single entry, then it can not
be applied to tagged entries just by using tag-prefixmacro-key
ones), so it's hard
to infer what's incorrect.
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, not the
entire macro as a whole.
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Jul 2012, Alexis Letessier wrote:
Hi,
Is there a filter to select mails with text/calendar attachments?
Best regards,
Alexis
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.*@stardiviner
You can make a macro that skips from 1 to 10 to 15 to 30, but you can't
make a macro that goes from 1 to 30 to 15 to 10, which is what your
conditional logic describes.
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returning
to mutt,
I usually recommend hard linking (not symbolic linking!) over copying,
if possible.
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backing store of rewritten blocks over an arbitrary backend
fs
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...
although I've never tried with gmail and am not sure whether there are
problems with [Gmail] or with spaces.
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variations if you want text vs pdf, etc, but this
basic formula should work.
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mymaildir | xargs -I{} sh -c mutt -f '{}' $TTY
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pgpAVfAbUUNu0.pgp
Description: PGP signature
* On 17 Apr 2012, Derek Martin wrote:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:36:04AM -0500, David Champion wrote:
TTY=$(tty); echo mymaildir | xargs -I{} sh -c mutt -f '{}' $TTY
Nice! I wasn't familiar with that usage of xargs...
It even appears to be fairly portable. BSD xargs also has -o, which
be meaningful.
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Subject: Re: [list] Re: Foo
I imagine this is still possible where someone is using a re: string
that the list manager does not recognize as a localized version of Latin
(aw, sv, etc).
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]+)\] ([^.]+)\.([^.]+) -
(new|open|pending|update) - ' '%L[#%1] %R'
The advantage of this solution is that it affects only how the message
is displayed in the pager, so the people who set up the mailing list to
expect these [list tags] still get them back from you when you reply.
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writing various rules, and if you start putting them into hooks you may
find that you need another couple depths of escaping. (At such a point
it helps to source another muttrc rather than to embed all your commands
within the hook.)
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to work out how to flush or restart the nscd
when you down and raise your network interface(s).
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mailbox line to
From to prevent this, but that's not a fast rule.)
What application saved these messages to your sent/2011-06 folder? Does
any other application use the folder, besides mutt?
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they appear in your muttrc, probably someone can help.
When posting account configuration, redact the personal information
as needed, but please do distinguish user1 from user2, password1 from
password2, etc.
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which precedes it.
To me, re: is more metadata than text. You'd rarely catch any speaker
of English saying it aloud.
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=format_date.sh '%[%s]' |
# test with
# format_date.sh 1321504390 1321704390 --- 2 days
# format_date.sh 1321504390 1322704390 --- 13 days
# Improvements by
# David Champion d...@uchicago.edu
# Ed Blackman e...@edgewood.to
msg_date=$1 # datetime of message
support it? I'm on 1.4.2.3i (FreeBSD ports version).
IMO there is no reason to run 1.4 if you're able (capable and permitted)
to compile.
The %??? notation works in 1.4 but the %X expando (as all ability to
evaluate attachments) was introduced well into 1.5.
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couldn't find
Introduced here:
changeset: 4412:5a347f860ec3
branch: HEAD
user:David Champion d...@uchicago.edu
date:Tue Oct 04 06:05:39 2005 +
summary: Attachment counting for index display (patch-1.5.11.dgc.attach.6).
shell$ hg log -r 5a347f860ec3 --template='{latesttag}\n
* On 04 Nov 2011, Tim Gray wrote:
On Nov 03, 2011 at 03:43 PM -0500, David Champion wrote:
If you use X-labels heavily and are comfortable building
mutt from source I encourage you to take a look at
https://bitbucket.org/dgc/mutt-dgc/qseries and apply at least up to the
complete-pattern-y
Permit tab completion of pattern expressions with ~y (labels).
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commit time + duration current time, and send a ping to the
expected respondent.
[1] Where database means any relational system you can devise and use
in a simple script.
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-sendmail -oi -oem
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because most mutt users use it, but
the same point could have been with Solaris or FreeBSD or (even more
sharply) Windows, so this bend isn't germane to the topic. I agree,
let's let it go.
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that was a known bug in 1.4
that is fixed in 1.5.x.
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, if you're comfortable compiling
mutt for yourself. I quit reading Usenet a few years back and haven't
been building in NNTP support since, but it was a good solution for me
at the time. http://mutt.org.ua/download/
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the mutt command above
* repeat until the behavior changes
That will tell you what setting controls it in your case.
At any rate mutt -F /dev/null -f message-file shoudl *not* act this
way.
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of the Makefile
which make installing as non-admin difficult. As far as I know these
are fixed in mutt 1.5.21, so you should have better luck if you update.
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options.
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be a good idea once we make more progress
on 1.6 milestones, I'm just not sure that the time is ripe.
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, prefix, then open that instead, and remove it after a
sleep. E.g.
#!/bin/sh
ln $1 open-$1
(sleep 60; rm -f open-$1)
open open-$1
By hardlinking you don't need to worry so much about file size, free
space, etc.
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produce your configuration programmatically in any way you like
though. For example, if make-muttrc is a program whose stdout is a
valid muttrc, you can make a ~/.muttrc that looks like:
source make-muttrc |
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{
EXITCODE=$?
}
or more concisely,
:0e
{ EXITCODE=$? }
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that this is a router, without strace or gdb (well,
Are you certain? That doesn't look too surprising for an HTML message
with inline images.
Have you tried copying it to another machine and running mutt on it
there?
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that listed all labels associated
with a message when you retrieve the message via POP/IMAP, I'd
definitely support it in the keywords code I'm maintaining. Bonus
points if it's a sort of approximately standard header. (I know we have
had some gmail engineers on this list)
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-gnutls -idn -imap -mbox -nntp -qdbm -sasl -smime -smtp
-tokyocabinet 0 kB
Could you post your 'mutt -v' output as well? I don't want to make any
assumptions about what an emerge does.
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are not used, and you're depending on gpgme. That doesn't
explain why it's not working but it could explain why it quit working.
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* On 25 May 2011, Joseph wrote:
On 05/25/11 17:42, David Champion wrote:
* On 25 May 2011, Joseph wrote:
+CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP -CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME
+CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS
You have GPGME as well as classic pgp (i.e. forking off pgp
'par'. It is brilliant.
I set $display_filter to use it so that I get the neat line wrap
for reading as well. I also have several vi macros that use it for
reflowing text in different styles. (Even if I did use vim, par is more
flexible.)
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an alias for mutt-users@mutt.org. You'll see the address however
you define the alias.
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* On 19 Apr 2011, David Champion wrote:
what should i do if i want all messages comes from the mutt
user mailing list to be displayed in index menu like:
'To Mutt Mailing List'
Create an alias for mutt-users@mutt.org. You'll see the address however
you define the alias.
You also need
would use
Maildir instead of MH unless you have a specific need to interact with
MH-compatible software.
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they tend to get irritating. So if
there is a way to avoid them, it would be nice.
I guess you could build your own localization message catalog that
eliminates those messages.
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(e.g.
to a directory) and then rewrite the HTML so that cid: src references
refer instead to static files on disk.
I don't know of such a wrapper offhand, sorry, but maybe the explanation
will help you find something.
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(or ask-no) and now it's just no.
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can't find it in your package
you can grab a copy here:
http://dev.mutt.org/hg/mutt/raw-file/tip/contrib/gpg.rc
Set pgp_verify_sig=yes to automatically verify signatures.
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protocol used by Growl for Windows and targetted by MacOS Growl is not
supported.
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or so addresses get stripped off. Is there any way to change
this behavior?
You can use multiple Bcc: headers.
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!;;
*moe*) custom=Eyepoke!;;
*curly*)custom=Noink noink noink!;;
*) custom=Hi $name,;;
esac
echo $custom
echo
echo On $2, you wrote:
I have not tested any of this.
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-only to all except list moderators,
who could use Mutt to fix broken threads, delete dupes, etc. List
You could use mutt in this fashion for trusted moderators by declaring
all the security issues policy problems.
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for
performance concerns, C would be the best choice.
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for my nested_if patch because it looked
completely useless, so if you happen to be using nested_if, this latter
version won't work. Now that I see a purpose for %... I'll have to
revisit nested_if. (Unfortunately all the paired symbols are used
already.)
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