Re: line length

2001-11-13 Thread Samuel Padgett
Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mutt doesn't have an editor, so this is a function of your editor. in vim you can use :set tw=74 or :set textwidth=74 In Emacs, (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill) This assumes you're using text-mode or one of its derivatives to compose

Re: line length

2001-11-13 Thread Samuel Padgett
Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to reformat quoted text, emacs is quite bad at this, and I've never found *perfect* LISP code to do that. :( Huh? Emacs is _excellent_ at this. What mode and you using to edit messages and what problems are you having? Sam [writing this

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-26 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % I recently moved some messages that I was reading with another MUA % to an mbox file I read with Mutt. I noticed that in the index How did you move them? What's the other MUA's format? [What's the other MUA?] I

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-26 Thread Samuel Padgett
working on this). Maybe I can grab a development version. Even if I did this, wouldn't Mutt have the same problem Gnus had: no From_ header? % How does the From: header for this representative message look? % % Um, let's see... % % From: Samuel Padgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, *duh* Sorry

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-26 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % Hm. Gnus reads Maildir, but doesn't write it (although I think % they're working on this). Maybe I can grab a development version. Can it write MMDF or save to an IMAP server, both of which mutt also speaks

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-27 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % It seems Gnus reads MMDF, but doesn't write it. Gnus does IMAP, Ahhh... It reads anything and writes only its own (well, OK, mbox); urgh. Actually, Gnus writes a bunch of stuff: mbox, IMAP, nnml, babyl, MH spool

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-27 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % Mutt seems to use the values out of the Sender header and the Date % header to construct the From_ line. So maybe the solution is the Makes sense -- if it's there. I just checked another message to see

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-28 Thread Samuel Padgett
Vineet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that it eats inodes for breakfast? This is my experience, yes. Another advantage is peace of mind that you'll never again fall prey

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-29 Thread Samuel Padgett
Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Thorsten Haude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yeah, the basic brain-dead-mailer-problem and its reply-to-munging or group-reply answer. Fortunately, there's Mutt. I use group-reply about once a year. I have 'r' rebound to list-reply for all my

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-30 Thread Samuel Padgett
Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: But won't people who aren't subscribed to the lists not receive your messages? A rare special case, especially since the majority of the lists I'm on don't even allow external posts. I subscribe

Quitting Mutt from Browser

2001-12-04 Thread Samuel Padgett
Is there a way to exit Mutt directly from the browser? After c tab tab, q just takes me back to the Open mailbox prompt. The help doesn't reveal any other promising commands. I'm running Mutt 1.3.24i and have quit set to yes. Thanks, Sam -- It doesn't matter if you're the greatest guitar

Re: Quitting Mutt from Browser

2001-12-04 Thread Samuel Padgett
Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or you could just remap 'q' to Quit. Or use 'Q'. Key is not bound. Press '?' for help. Hm. Sam -- It doesn't matter if you're the greatest guitar player in the world. If you're not enlightened, forget it. -- George Harrison

Re: Quitting Mutt from Browser

2001-12-04 Thread Samuel Padgett
Kenneth Pronovici [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about CTRL-C...? Seems to work everywhere... If I delete a message in a mailbox, type c ?, then quit with C-c, Mutt doesn't purge the deleted message :-( Sam -- It doesn't matter if you're the greatest guitar player in the world. If you're not

Re: A couple of probably dumb questions :)

2001-12-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had a look at Gnus too, mainly because people seem to think it handles things like [crap] in subjects an dupes really well; From the Gnus manual: Duplicate suppression is not a very subtle instrument. It's more like a sledge hammer than

Re: A couple of probably dumb questions :)

2001-12-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you can do the exact same thing with a simple procmail recipe. Nifty. it can be argued (and as the gnus manual points out) that this might be unreliable. Yeah. The manual goes on to give this tip: Here's a neat feature: If you know that the

Re: Quoting when replying

2001-12-09 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To set my comments apart from others' I started using %_ (the common notation for a trailing space, just like the From_ header). I had, IIRC, already seen a few folks using | and within a few years all manner of quoting (most commonly : :_ | |_ $ but

BBDB - abook?

2001-12-25 Thread Samuel Padgett
Does anyone know of a tool to import records from the Insidious Big Brother Database into abook, or am I condemned to do it by hand (my penance for using an Emacs-specific address book)? Thanks! Sam [who apologizes if this is off-topic for this forum]

Re: BBDB - abook?

2001-12-27 Thread Samuel Padgett
Jelmer Vernooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try using the lbdb, which has support for bbdb. I'd like to get away from using BBDB in general, however, since it's slow. And I've switched from Gnus to Mutt, so abook probably makes more sense. Thanks, though. Sam

Re: BBDB - abook?

2001-12-27 Thread Samuel Padgett
Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Does anyone know of a tool to import records from the Insidious Big Brother Database into abook, or am I condemned to do it by hand (my penance for using an Emacs-specific address book)? Write a bit

Re: my-text-mode

2002-01-03 Thread Samuel Padgett
giorgian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i defined the function my-text-mode in my .emacs file, to set all my mail editing preferences; Would be nice to see this function. Do you use `defined-derived-mode'? i put in my .muttrc the row: set editor=emacs -f my-text-mode I think it is better to

Re: my-text-mode

2002-01-04 Thread Samuel Padgett
Walt Mankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have (turn-on-font-lock) (global-font-lock-mode t) (setq font-lock-maximum-decoration t) (just to be safe) elsewhere in my .emacs. :-) If you're using GNU Emacs, you only need (global-font-lock-mode 1) The other lines are superfluous.

Re: my-text-mode

2002-01-05 Thread Samuel Padgett
Franco Vite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use vim, and when I replay I've: blablablabla = magenta blablabla = red blablabla = green Hm. All three lines are the same color for me in Vim. Did you do anything special to get this? Whit emacs , and are

Re: my-text-mode

2002-01-05 Thread Samuel Padgett
Franco Vite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi mailQuoted1ctermfg=darkcyan hi mailQuoted2ctermfg=darkgreen hi mailQuoted3ctermfg=darkred hi mailQuoted4ctermfg=darkmagenta hi mailQuoted5ctermfg=darkblue hi mailQuoted6ctermfg=darkcyan hi mailQuoted7

?'s and hide_missing

2002-01-06 Thread Samuel Padgett
Is there any way to get the Mutt-1.3.24i threading behavior back? It looks like it changed again in Mutt-1.3.25i. Specifically, I like seeing the ?'s, but only enough to give me context. Today, with hide_missing set, I see something like this ?-?-?-?-?-?-?-Re: foo `-?-Re: foo The

Re: ?'s and hide_missing

2002-01-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Daniel Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I mean to get back to some threading loose ends in the next few days, so I'll add a $hide_missing_parents option, or some such. Terrific! Thanks, Daniel! Sam

Recovering interrupted compositions?

2002-01-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
I sometimes ssh into my machine from work and use Mutt. The connection through the firewall, however, is, uh, a bit tenuous and often gets dropped. Sometimes this happens when I am composing a message. Is there a good way to recover these compositions and pick up where I left off? I'm using

Re: Recovering interrupted compositions?

2002-01-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vim -r will give you a list of recoverable temp files. Rarely fails me. Yes, but then how do I actually send the message. Cut-n-paste into a new composition buffer? I was hoping Mutt had some facility to notice /tmp/mutt-* files that are unsent and

Re: Recovering interrupted compositions?

2002-01-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A better way to handle this is to run screen on your work machine. Then when your connection drops, simply re-logon to your work machine, run 'screen -r' to re-attach the screen session, and pick up where you left off. This is a really good idea.

Re: Recovering interrupted compositions?

2002-01-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK, it is up to the editor, not mutt. When in vim, go to ':help recover' and it will tell you what you need to know. IOW you can do it right from within vim. I guess my point is that there are a lot of manual steps here: start new composition, use

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm... well, whenever I reply to a message, everything after sigdashes is stripped from the message. It's possible that my editor is doing this (I use post-mode for emacs), and I'll look into that. I'm pretty sure that post-mode does this. You

Re: Bold text

2002-01-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use vim as my editor and can't work out how to make portions of my text bold? I know many of you use vim so I hope someone can help. Some MUAs will display a^Ha (aa) as a bold a. Is this what you mean? Sam

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, that command didn't do much useful for me, Did you try running it after loading post-mode? To turn it OFF, one would stick this in the appropriate place in their .emacs file: '(post-kill-quoted-sig nil) That line alone does not do

Re: Can't send mail from my profile

2002-01-08 Thread Samuel Padgett
René Clerc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you set editor to , mutt will use the environment variable EDITOR; make sure this is set (and exported) in your .profile or an alike file. Wouldn't Mutt actually ignore $EDITOR if $VISUAL is set? Nick, it's probably a good idea to set VISUAL=vim,

Re: Can't send mail from my profile

2002-01-08 Thread Samuel Padgett
Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds fine to me Sam, I don't know what VISUAL is though? I presume it's a config var, I'll go look it up on the manual. Sorry, I think I was unclear: VISUAL is an environment variable. It isn't Mutt-specific. You might want to look at the documentation

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread Samuel Padgett
mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't buy into the idea that the editor should be the beginning and the end of my interaction with the system. I expect a text editor to be good at editing text--nothing more, nothing less. To insist that the editor should know the difference between

Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anywhere. Mine happens to be on line 462. Wow. You have a 462+ line .muttrc? Sam [who's impressed]

sync-mailbox signals errors on empty mailboxes?

2002-01-11 Thread Samuel Padgett
Why does sync-mailbox signal an error when the mailbox is empty? Shouldn't it just be a no-op? The error foils these macros: macro index y sync-mailboxchange-folder?toggle-mailboxes macro pager y sync-mailboxchange-folder?toggle-mailboxes Thanks, Sam

Re: error sending message

2002-01-11 Thread Samuel Padgett
Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't know what you mean but I've fixed it. It was a silly error I'd made. It's just one of those days. Can you tell us what was wrong and how you fixed it (just in case we ever run into the same problem)? Thanks, Sam

Ispell is too quiet when run from the Compose menu

2002-01-11 Thread Samuel Padgett
I sometimes spell check my messages before I send them using Ispell (actually, Aspell), and often I have no errors. When this is the case, however, Mutt does not indicate that the spell checker ran at all! Is there any way I can tell Mutt to display a message, for instance, Ispell exited with

Re: mail being returned

2002-01-11 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To really do it right you should get a domain and have that at your house, but realistically you could probably use home.explodingnet.com (since you control the domain and it's your home computer) or nick.yourisp.com (though that won't show up in a DNS

Re: Ispell is too quiet when run from the Compose menu

2002-01-12 Thread Samuel Padgett
Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is part of the Unix philosophy, which goes something like, if there's nothing to report, then report nothing. Armed with this knowledge, there's really no need for such a message... I would amend that to say, If there's no need to report

Re: Ispell is too quiet when run from the Compose menu

2002-01-12 Thread Samuel Padgett
Kenneth Pronovici [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, I get it. Errors and output disappear so fast that you can't really see them, which I hadn't noticed before. Doing what I suggested above would at least let you see that *something* ran, though. Hmm, not as worthwhile as I thought, sorry.

Re: Ispell is too quiet when run from the Compose menu

2002-01-14 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the actual flea is that ispell does not follow $wait_key, myself. I'll buy that. Who wants to start a movement to get that changed, or submit a feature patch? I could do the former or the latter, although the latter would require permission from

Re: maildir over mbox?

2002-01-20 Thread Samuel Padgett
Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No manager I've ever worked for would tolerate waiting 3 minutes to open their inbox... That's funny because where I work, we use Lotus Notes, and I'm sure many managers routinely wait this long for Notes to open their inboxes (particularly if they

Re: how to change xterm title depending on current mailbox

2002-01-23 Thread Samuel Padgett
darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In vim: set titleold=My\ Old\ Xterm\ Title and it will restore the xterm's title to that string. Yes, but I'd like Vim to restore the XTerm title to whatever it was before I started Vim. This might be something different each time. --

Re: char % as quote

2002-01-24 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I seem to be the only one who likes percent, but if I used one of |:}# then apparently nobody would mind since mutt would already recognize it. Hm. % grep 'quote_regexp\|smiley' .muttrc set quote_regexp=^([ \t]*)+ set smileys=From ;-( Sam

Re: Shortcut to mailboxes screen?

2002-02-05 Thread Samuel Padgett
Jeremy Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Feb 03, Collin Peters [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: macro pager i sync-mailboxchange-folder?toggle-mailboxes macro index i sync-mailboxchange-folder?toggle-mailboxes You shouldn't need the explicit sync-mailbox in there, since change-folder will