Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-11 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 04.01.14 19:35, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > Recent posts made me aware of the fact, that mutt supports SMPT. > So far I have been using postfix for mail transport. > Which way is better, and why? If it's true that mutt fails if you try to send an email when off-line, then that does seem definitive.

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Z
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 02:59:37PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-01-08, Richard Z wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 04:48:18PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > > not really. msmtp and esmtp have queueing. > > Can you provide references for that statement? > > >From http://esmtp.sourceforg

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-08 Thread Kim Christensen
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 03:14:08PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-01-08, Kim Christensen wrote: > > compared to postfix, sendmail, EXIM, qmail and the like. > > > > Noones arguing against using [me]smtp as the "real MTA" in this > > scenario :-) > > I think msmtp is great, and I've been us

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-08, Kim Christensen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 02:23:31PM +0100, Richard Z wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 04:48:18PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: >> > On 2014-01-04, Ulrich Lauther wrote: >> > Do you need/want outbound messages to be queued if they can't be sent >> > immediatel

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-08 Thread Kim Christensen
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 02:23:31PM +0100, Richard Z wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 04:48:18PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2014-01-04, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > Do you need/want outbound messages to be queued if they can't be sent > > immediately? If yes, then you need a "real" MTA like

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-08, Richard Z wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 04:48:18PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2014-01-04, Ulrich Lauther wrote: >> >> > Recent posts made me aware of the fact, that mutt supports SMPT. So >> > far I have been using postfix for mail transport. Which way is >> > better, an

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-08 Thread Richard Z
On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 04:48:18PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-01-04, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > > Recent posts made me aware of the fact, that mutt supports SMPT. So > > far I have been using postfix for mail transport. Which way is > > better, and why? > > [I'm assuming you're using p

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-07 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140106_164818, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-01-04, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > > Recent posts made me aware of the fact, that mutt supports SMPT. So > > far I have been using postfix for mail transport. Which way is > > better, and why? > > [I'm assuming you're using postfix only for outbou

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-04, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > Recent posts made me aware of the fact, that mutt supports SMPT. So > far I have been using postfix for mail transport. Which way is > better, and why? [I'm assuming you're using postfix only for outbound mail. If you're using Postfix to handle incoming ma

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-05 Thread Kim Christensen
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 10:55:22PM +0100, Richard Z wrote: > On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Richard Z [01-05-14 08:57]: > > [...] > > > unless you try to do something like multiple email providers for one > > > user which is very easy to do with anything b

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
Please, I read the list and have NO need of duplicate copies of posts. * Richard Z [01-05-14 16:57]: > On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Richard Z [01-05-14 08:57]: > > [...] > > > unless you try to do something like multiple email providers for one > > > u

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-05 Thread Richard Z
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Richard Z [01-05-14 08:57]: > [...] > > unless you try to do something like multiple email providers for one > > user which is very easy to do with anything but sendmail/postfix/exim. > > I have done this on all three and got

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-05 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 05Jan2014 14:55, Richard Z wrote: > On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 08:48:50AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > AND:... All the local systems that send email (eg cron and innumerable > > shell scripts) can send email via the UNIX standard "sendmail" > > executable. > > > > Use a real mail system loca

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-05 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 05Jan2014 14:25, Chris Down wrote: > On 2014-01-04 20:01:56 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > I'm using mutt (right now by typing) on my FreeBSD netbook, connected > > via UMTS WAN to my ISP. My mutt drops the mail (this mail) to the local > > MTA (sendmail) and this takes care for the transport

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, January 05, 2014 a las 09:16:02AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan escribió: > * Richard Z [01-05-14 08:57]: > [...] > > unless you try to do something like multiple email providers for one > > user which is very easy to do with anything but sendmail/postfix/exim. > > I have done this on

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Richard Z [01-05-14 08:57]: [...] > unless you try to do something like multiple email providers for one > user which is very easy to do with anything but sendmail/postfix/exim. > I have done this on all three and got tired, after every system upgrade > some incompatible change breaks it and e

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-05 Thread Richard Z
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 08:48:50AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 04Jan2014 20:01, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El día Sunday, January 05, 2014 a las 02:50:12AM +0800, Chris Down escribió: > > > On 2014-01-04 19:35:19 +0100, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > > > Recent posts made me aware of the fact, th

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-05 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 02:25:16PM +0800, Chris Down wrote: > Well, that's exactly what I was recommending -- using something like > sendmail over something which is designed for far more (Postfix). Sendmail and Postfix are both MTAs, they both do (essentially) the same thing. Cheers, Tom -- P

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-04 Thread Chris Down
On 2014-01-04 20:01:56 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > I'm using mutt (right now by typing) on my FreeBSD netbook, connected > via UMTS WAN to my ISP. My mutt drops the mail (this mail) to the local > MTA (sendmail) and this takes care for the transport to the next MX hop, > even if the WAN link is

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-04 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 04Jan2014 20:01, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Sunday, January 05, 2014 a las 02:50:12AM +0800, Chris Down escribió: > > On 2014-01-04 19:35:19 +0100, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > > Recent posts made me aware of the fact, that mutt supports SMPT. > > > So far I have been using postfix for mail tr

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-04 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, January 05, 2014 a las 02:50:12AM +0800, Chris Down escribió: > On 2014-01-04 19:35:19 +0100, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > Recent posts made me aware of the fact, that mutt supports SMPT. > > So far I have been using postfix for mail transport. > > Which way is better, and why? > > "B

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-04 Thread Chris Down
On 2014-01-04 19:35:19 +0100, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > Recent posts made me aware of the fact, that mutt supports SMPT. > So far I have been using postfix for mail transport. > Which way is better, and why? "Better" is subjective. Using Postfix for this is pretty heavy duty over using a purpose-bui

mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-04 Thread Ulrich Lauther
Recent posts made me aware of the fact, that mutt supports SMPT. So far I have been using postfix for mail transport. Which way is better, and why? Thanks for advice, ulrich