Re: external page: vi - vim / avoid dangerous mappings!

2002-03-06 Thread Simon White
On 06-Mar-02 at 00:53, Sven Guckes's inspired musing was thus : danger, will robinson! you just might mistype 'X' with 'Z' and then all your changes are lost. Not if you have a French AZERTY or german ZSDF keyboard... -- |-Simon White |-Internet Services Manager |-MTDS S.A. /

Re: Saving a read E-Mail into an imap-folder - O-flag

2002-03-06 Thread Simon White
On 05-Mar-02 at 19:03, David DeSimone's inspired musing was thus : This is documented as a known bug in IMAP: * Server copy currently doesn't take into account uncommitted changes in messages about to be copied. Sync first. The advice works. When you sync (hit $) the folder,

FCC to a program/pipe?

2002-03-06 Thread David G. Andersen
I've been digging around for a bit trying to figure out the best way to do this: How can I set mutt up to pipe an auto-FCC of my outgoing mail to a program, instead of a file? (The obvious attempt of FCC to |program doesn't work; a fairly extensive read of the docs didn't suggest that such a

Re: FCC to a program/pipe?

2002-03-06 Thread Simon White
FCC to a local file which is watched by the external program? On 06-Mar-02 at 00:16, David G. Andersen's inspired musing was thus : I've been digging around for a bit trying to figure out the best way to do this: How can I set mutt up to pipe an auto-FCC of my outgoing mail to a program,

Re: avoid dangerous mappings!

2002-03-06 Thread Sven Guckes
* Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020306 08:45]: On 06-Mar-02 at 00:53, Sven Guckes's inspired musing was thus : danger, will robinson! you just might mistype 'X' with 'Z' and then all your changes are lost. Not if you have a French AZERTY or german ZSDF keyboard... sure. but whatever

Re: FCC to a program/pipe? - FIFO? atchange?

2002-03-06 Thread Sven Guckes
* David G. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020306 09:29]: I've been digging around for a bit trying to figure out the best way to do this: How can I set mutt up to pipe an auto-FCC of my outgoing mail to a program, instead of a file? use a file which was created a FIFO - that's the best way (I

Re: avoid dangerous mappings!

2002-03-06 Thread Simon White
On 06-Mar-02 at 11:25, Sven Guckes's inspired musing was thus : you may have heard the story about the admin who mapped F1 to :qa! - rest in peace! (it was not a pretty sight... eww.) Point taken. Hehehehe :-) -- |-Simon White |-Internet Services Manager |-MTDS S.A. /

Re: vim startup on first empty line

2002-03-06 Thread Sven Guckes
* John Buttery [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020306 07:12]: On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 05:13:27PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: map z z --- fast shift email to top of screen. First command given after email comes up in vi. I wish I could get this to happen automatically. Well, I'm pretty much a vi newbie

Re: deleting an attachment while composing..

2002-03-06 Thread Radek Spacil
On [05/03/02] 16:38, Ryan Singer wrote: i was sending a message today and ran into a problem. i was attaching a series of files, and attached one that i later wanted to remove before sending. i checked the help, but couldn't seem to find help (?) in compose mode says: D detach-file

News about Mutt - guckes.net/mutt/news.html

2002-03-06 Thread Sven Guckes
I have finally moved all the news items about mutt from my main page about mutt to an extra page. So now you can bookmark it and have NetMind send you an update notice when the page changes. further news welcome, of course. :-) and for those of you who cannot read the table with lynx - well,

Re: Pager problems in 1.3.27

2002-03-06 Thread Raymond A. Meijer
On Mon, 04 Mar 2002, 16:09, Raymond A. Meijer wrote: If I run mutt version 1.3.27, I get a blank screen when I view a message in the pager. The top and bottom lines are there, but the message headers and body are not visible. [...] Everything else in mutt seems to work fine, except

Re: News about Mutt - guckes.net/mutt/news.html

2002-03-06 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Sven Guckes wrote: I have finally moved all the news items about mutt from my main page about mutt to an extra page. So now you can bookmark it and have NetMind send you an update notice when the page changes. further news welcome, of course. :-) perhaps you should send

Re: Pager problems in 1.3.27

2002-03-06 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Raymond A. Meijer wrote: P.S. I could make screenshots if anybody would want to see what's happening... more useful would be a typescript (from running mutt within 'script'). -- T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net

Re: News about Mutt - guckes.net/mutt/news.html

2002-03-06 Thread Sven Guckes
* On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Sven Guckes wrote: I have finally moved all the news items about mutt from my main page about mutt to an extra page. * Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020306 13:41]: perhaps you should send the url in your email (the one in your signature is usable with lynx, so

Error message when no more inodes?

2002-03-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Someone complained (in a French newsgroup) that his mailbox was read-only and he didn't know why. Later, he found that the problem was due to the fact there were no more inodes on his disk. Perhaps Mutt should display an error message (with as much information as possible) so that the user

Re: News about Mutt - guckes.net/mutt/news.html

2002-03-06 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Sven Guckes wrote: * On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Sven Guckes wrote: I have finally moved all the news items about mutt from my main page about mutt to an extra page. * Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020306 13:41]: perhaps you should send the url in your email (the one

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-06 Thread Ben Logan
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:22:04PM +, Dave Smith wrote: (snipped a bunch of good points) Yes, it doesn't have nice and point-and-clicky interface, but I don't like them, anyway. Like many of you on this list probably do, I get several hundred messages a day (up to 600). I almost

Re: Pager problems in 1.3.27

2002-03-06 Thread Sven Guckes
* Raymond A. Meijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020306 13:36]: I've tried all mutt 1.3.x versions, several $TERM settings, several compile options, but it still doesn't work... every 1.3.x has the problem. Every 1.2.x works fine without any adjustments. Sometimes the pager displays a bit more

Re: Pager problems in 1.3.27

2002-03-06 Thread Raymond A. Meijer
On Wed, 06 Mar 2002, 15:03, Sven Guckes wrote: What should I look at next?? Does the output show -HAVE_COLOR? If so then you'll owe us all a beer! Pheeewww :-) If it's a bug then you all owe me a beer! ;-) mutt-1.3.27 -v Mutt 1.3.27i (2002-01-22) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins

Re: Viewing only mailboxes with 'N'

2002-03-06 Thread darren chamberlain
Quoting David Collantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 06, 2002 09:52]: I have a very long list of mailboxes. When I get into the mailbox list, I can see at the top I have 3 mailboxes with new messages, but I have to scroll down looking for those 3 one's. If there a way to mask and show only the

Re: How to get mutt bark for new created mbox?

2002-03-06 Thread Thomas Huemmler
* Charles Jie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02/03/06 10:37]: I found that if procmail feeds new mail into such mboxes and creates them, mutt will not get aware of the new mails. Is it a feature? mutt gets aware of new mail in mailboxes with the mailboxes command, see chapter 3.11 in the manual. HTH,

Re: Setting the hostname used in HELO

2002-03-06 Thread Adam Byrtek
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:29:48AM -0800, Bob McLaren wrote: So now what I am looking for is a simple SMTP client that is as easy to use as Mutt, or, some alternative means of getting Mutt to talk to my remote smtp server. nullmailer Simple, robust, relay only sendmail wrapper... --

Re: Setting the hostname used in HELO

2002-03-06 Thread Heiko Heil
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:29:48AM -0800, Bob McLaren wrote: So now what I am looking for is a simple SMTP client that is as easy to use as Mutt, or, some alternative means of getting Mutt to talk to my remote smtp server. What about port-forwarding with ssh? -- Cheers, H. Heil

Re: Setting the hostname used in HELO

2002-03-06 Thread Simon White
On 06-Mar-02 at 17:11, Heiko Heil's inspired musing was thus : On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:29:48AM -0800, Bob McLaren wrote: So now what I am looking for is a simple SMTP client that is as easy to use as Mutt, or, some alternative means of getting Mutt to talk to my remote smtp

Re: OT - procmail duplicate recipe

2002-03-06 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Dominik Mierzejewski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tuesday, 05 March 2002, Thomas Hurst wrote: * Christopher S. Swingley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: And then I have recipes for my mailing lists: :0: * ^Sender:\ owner-mutt-users@mutt\.org in-mutt-users Pfft, you want

Re: FCC to a program/pipe?

2002-03-06 Thread Mike Schiraldi
FCC to a local file which is watched by the external program? If you chose this route, i suggest you use maildir format -- then you can just use a short shell script to look for new files, process them, and delete them. -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg25101/pgp0.pgp

Re: Viewing only mailboxes with 'N'

2002-03-06 Thread Gregor Zattler
Hi darren, * darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mit 06 Mär 2002 10:01:56 GMT]: Quoting David Collantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 06, 2002 09:52]: I have a very long list of mailboxes. When I get into the mailbox list, I can see at the top I have 3 mailboxes with new messages, but I have to

Re: Pager problems in 1.3.27

2002-03-06 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:39PM +0100, Raymond A. Meijer wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2002, 08:58, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: thanks (will look at this when I'm done with work - on my home machine I can analyze it properly) Cool! Thanks for trying to help me out! I'm looking - but still don't

Re: Scoring known addresses

2002-03-06 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Feb 28, Volker Moell [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Is there a posibillity to score all known mail addresses (i.e. all addresses defined in aliases) in one single score statement? David Champion has a patch for this... you can find a link to it from www.mutt.org in the user patches section.

Re: Various questions from a new user

2002-03-06 Thread Jeremy Blosser
A little more info... On Mar 04, Mike Schiraldi [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: 1: What does the * mean on the tree arrow in a thread? I've searched the manual for this repeatedly, but I must keep missing it. This might not be in there yet -- mutt's threading subsystem was recently

Re: Scoring known addresses

2002-03-06 Thread David Champion
On 2002.03.05, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, Volker Moell [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Is there a posibillity to score all known mail addresses (i.e. all addresses defined in aliases) in one single score statement? David Champion has a

Re: News about Mutt - guckes.net/mutt/news.html

2002-03-06 Thread MuttER
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-06-02 08:25] crowed: I have finally moved all the news items about mutt from my main page about mutt to an extra page. So now you can bookmark it and have NetMind send you an update notice when the page changes. further news welcome, of course. :-)

Controlling headers displayed in vi pager

2002-03-06 Thread Joel Hammer
Since going to vi as my pager, I don't see all the headers I used to be able to see with the builtin pager. Is there a way to force mutt to show me all the headers in my vi pager? Joel

Re: retrieving IMAP mail

2002-03-06 Thread MuttER
* pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-03-02 08:23] crowed: I signed up for a myrealbox.com account and can access my new account from a browser without a problem (it wants cookie access). But when I try from mutt I get the following errors: mutt -f imap://myid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

mailbox notification

2002-03-06 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hey people. So I'm making use of the compressed folders patch now, but it seems that Mutt is no longer telling me when new mail arrives in my gzipped folders. Is there a way to enable this again? I rely on it quite a bit. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL

Re: avoid dangerous mappings!

2002-03-06 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, I still find a single stroke command to exit the vi as a pager quite useful. I could have a separate .vimrc for the vi as pager; however, I am trying to maintain a single set of commands for using vi (vim). So, maybe this will suffice for a quick exit: map Z :w! /tmp/vi-backup :q! Joel

Re: mailbox notification

2002-03-06 Thread Aaron Schrab
At 20:38 -0500 06 Mar 2002, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm making use of the compressed folders patch now, but it seems that Mutt is no longer telling me when new mail arrives in my gzipped folders. Is there a way to enable this again? I rely on it quite a bit. You

Mutt is not for everyone? (really)

2002-03-06 Thread Michel
Hello Guys! I don't think like you Sven :) - Mutt is for everyone! All is for everyone! Mutt isn't hard, or at less, Mutt isn't very hard :-) If I can read, write, filter, store, and do all what I do with mutt, with another program running under X-window, certaintly I will use this program (I

Re: mailbox notification

2002-03-06 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 06/03/02 Aaron Schrab did speaketh: You should not have mail delivered to compressed folders. If you do so, you are almost sure to lose mail eventually. I don't understand why it's any different than standard procmail delivery. Procmail should still synchronize via a lockfile, yes?

Re: mailbox notification

2002-03-06 Thread Aaron Schrab
At 23:01 -0500 06 Mar 2002, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/03/02 Aaron Schrab did speaketh: You should not have mail delivered to compressed folders. If you do so, you are almost sure to lose mail eventually. I don't understand why it's any different than

Re: mutt is not for everyone

2002-03-06 Thread Will Yardley
Sven Guckes wrote: mutt does not strive to be popular with everyone. after all, all those bad mailers were written to *fit* some people - and they certainly do! so dont take them away from those - they deserve it! i think this statement is a bit elitist simply because a tool is

Re: mutt is not for everyone

2002-03-06 Thread Michael Maibaum
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:16:24PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: Sven Guckes wrote: mutt does not strive to be popular with everyone. after all, all those bad mailers were written to *fit* some people - and they certainly do! so dont take them away from those - they deserve it! i

Re: Pager problems in 1.3.27

2002-03-06 Thread Raymond A. Meijer
On Wed, 06 Mar 2002, 17:09, Thomas Dickey wrote: Hello, I'm looking - but still don't see the immediate problem. Your typescript file doesn't show any sign of black-on-black masking the characters - they simply aren't shown. Running it slowly, I don't see any extra cursor movement either