Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-13 Thread Shawn McMahon
Is there a way to tell Mutt to never PGP-sign messages to a certain address, but continue to sign them otherwise, other than just remembering to hit "pf" before sending? msg25435/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-13 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote: > > Do you mean something like > > send-hook . set pgp_autosign > send-hook . unset pgp_autoencrypt > send-hook (addr1|addr2) unset pgp_autosign > send-hook (addr3) set pgp_autoencrypt You rule, David. Works like a friggin' charm.

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-13 Thread Shawn McMahon
Now if you guys would just submit your keys to the public keyservers... msg25439/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-14 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote: > > Nope; I sign everything except for a few special cases, so I just use > send-hooks, and I just gave him my example and let him convert to folders > on his own. Excercises for the student and all :-) No need; I sign everything except for two addr

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-14 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, Simon White wrote: > > Ahh yes there is. L (list-reply). Or whatever you map it to in your muttrcs. > Cool. Except it doesn't work with any mailing list I've tried. Including, for example, this one... msg25508/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > > Not for list-reply. The important thing to make this command work is > letting mutt know which mails are from lists, using the 'subscribe' and > 'lists' commands. Bleargh. What a pain in the ass. Most of my mailing lists identify themselv

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote: > > So, since lists are so easy to recognize, have a script that generates > mailing list names from your directories and put something like Mailing lists aren't easy to recognize, at least when they don't put in a header, but you're forgetting that

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, Dave Pearson wrote: > > Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use to tell mutt > that an email is from a mailing list, I use to tell mutt that I > want to respond to the list it was from (instead of to the author of the > email, or whatever). Uh huh. And

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote: > > BTW, subscribe is a superset of lists; you'll only need one for lists on > which you are and then one for lists on which you aren't. Yeah, figured that one out after I posted. :-) > Great. Start coding. Post the result. TIA & HAND Trust me,

Another auto hook question

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
Ok, I've got a send-hook like this: send-hook ([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]) set pgp_create_traditional However, it still makes the MIME-type application:pgp. Is there a way to make it lie and call them text? Crackmonkey bounces funky MIME-types. msg25576/pgp0.pgp Description:

Re: Another auto hook question

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, Justin R. Miller wrote: > > You need to either use a macro to pipe to gpg, or you need to try the > Outlook compatibility patch. I believe that the patch was going to be > rolled into the main distribution? Maybe I'm misunderstanding things, but it seems to me t

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, David Champion wrote: > > Personally, I don't like the idea of hard-coding mutt to recognize > mailing lists according to commonly-observed trends that aren't > specified by a reasonably standard standard. There are many ways > to identify a mailing list. Mutt shouldn

Re: speeding up open mailbox

2002-03-17 Thread Shawn McMahon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > very large mailboxes. My debian-users mailbox contains some 3500 > messages. It takes about 60 seconds to open. > > Are there any tricks to speed this up, some caching mechanism or > somethi

Re: speeding up open mailbox

2002-03-17 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, MuttER wrote: > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe > > And YOU, of course, will never request aid on this list, or present a > query someone else thinks is inappropriate/unnecessary. I HOPE. That was a

Re: speeding up open mailbox

2002-03-17 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The patched version works very nicely. Opening the 3500 messages > mailbox took 79 seconds with the prepacked mutt. It takes less then a > second with the patched version. Guess I was wrong, then; switching to the digest wouldn't have bee

Re: 1.3.28: still not possible to compile without iconv

2002-03-18 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Claus Assmann said on Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 04:02:53PM -0800: > I asked about this when 1.3.25 came out and got the answer that > "this should be fixed" / "will be looking into it". However, 1.3.28 > still can't be configured without iconv. Any chance for a change? Pardon my

Re: x-pkcs7-signature? (was Fcc and New Messages)

2002-03-18 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Christopher Swingley said on Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 11:33:21AM -0900: > > A brief search on Google identified this as an SMIME attachment. > Is this something akin to a GPG signature? Is there some package I Sounds like it's time for a less-brief search on Google. msg25697

Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-20 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500: > > HTH & HAND and none of this is tested :-) Acronymize that last one. :-) msg25779/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Converting mbox to Maildir

2002-03-20 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 01:08:56PM -0500: > > % Is mbox the same as Unix format? > > Yes, mbox is the same mailbox format that you know from years and years > ago. Each message is delimited by ^From_ (a newline, "From", and a Well, technically, I don't think

Re: Binding both complete and complete-query to tab key

2002-03-20 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 07:21:23PM +0100: > > you cannot bind two commands to one key. period. > (which command should mutt execute then? exactly.) The first one bound, followed by the second one? msg25794/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Changing/inserting headers with a macro

2002-03-20 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Daniel Bye said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:00:15PM +: > > for Outlookers, and I seem to spend a _lot_ of time sending mail to folks using > Outlook. I spend a lot of time sending mail to Outlook users, too, but it all just says this: If you are reading this, it means t

Re: wrong threading with both 'In-Reply-To' and 'References'

2002-03-20 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 11:52:42PM +0100: > > > Can I convince mutt to ignore the In-Reply-To > > header if there is a References header? > > no, i dont think there is an option for that yet. I guess he could use procmail to remove the In-Reply-To header if

Re: wrong threading with both 'In-Reply-To' and 'References'

2002-03-21 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 07:28:07AM -0500: > > See the original mail; he already begged to not go that route because of > all of his old mail that would need reprocessing. man perl :-) msg25859/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: defining a command -> internal langauge

2002-03-21 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Michael Elkins said on Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 02:25:46PM -0800: > This converstion comes up every once in a while and devolves into "my > programming language is better than yours" ultimately. Just put an INTERCAL interpreter in there. Or, better yet, befunge. Then you can say

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:48:28PM +0200: > > Umm... as I saw my mail posted here, Mutt told me that "the following > data is signed" and all the other PGP stuff. So - am I doing it correctly > after all? :-) No, you're not. Look at the contents of your ma

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 02:32:41PM -0800: > > and hopefully this won't set off a long discussion (yet again), but many > believe that it's generally silly (and unnecessary) to sign posts to a > public mailing list most of the time. Many believe the Earth is

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 12:47:14AM +0100: > >If you object to my signatures, procmail is easily capable of routing all > >of my emails to /dev/null. > I don't use Procmail. What now? The Lord helps those who help themselves. msg25951/pgp0.pgp Descri

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:52:56AM +0200: > > ARGH! Of course I forgot to sign it. :-/ As I said, I am very, very > sorry for all the inconvenience and waste of bandwith from my behalf. > I hope I doesn't end up in everyone's killfile... trying to learn > so

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:23:57AM +0100: > Let's not forget that your key is worthless unless signed by somebody > we know already. Not entirely worthless. For instance, if you receive lots of emails from me in lots of fora, all signed, then you may consi

Re: Encrypting my outgoing messages to myself for fcc

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Robert Conde said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:20:46PM -0500: > > When I send a pgp encrypted message to someone, I can't read it in my > fcc folder. I set the fcc_clear variable so that the FCC is stored > unencrypted. I read in some FAQ that it's possible to "configure M

ignore/unignore

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
Look at the man page; it doesn't say anything about the order of ignore or unignore statements. It just says "unignore" is a list of exceptions to the "ignore" statement(s). That's the precedence; unignores are exceptions, they take precedence over ignores no matter what. man muttrc msg2598

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:09:42PM +0200: > > Ah well, I've decided not to use signed mails in mailing lists if > there isn't any reason for me to do it. What matters, is, that PGP > works with my Mutt - whole other thing is, if I use it... ;-) The same reas

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:26:53PM +0100: > There are several things different between broadcasts and > point-to-point connection, as you sure know. Yes. For instance, there are far more people who would be impacted by a forgery. There are also far more p

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:31:06PM +0200: > > Yes, I know. At least this proves, that I managed to upset people > with my child walk of PGP signatures (I agree, I should've selected > more appropriate place for testing it for the first time); or would > I ge

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:47:42PM +0100: > I take it from this that you are in fact not interested in a > discussion, but in a flame war. Have fun! I'm sorry, if you'll point out which of my statements was personally insulting to you, I'll be glad to clari

Re: Derot and Enrot

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob Reid said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:53:39PM -0500: > > > > "Derot-13"? *grin* Where's "Enrot" then? ;-) The correct answer, of course, is "Houston". msg25991/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: mailers with scripting/setup language

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob Reid said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:01:35PM -0500: > > If mutt could pass variables like the current folder to the environment, then > this "mutt needs a scripting language, but no, that's bloated, and > which one would we use?" thread would probably recur less frequently

Re: Encrypting my outgoing messages to myself for fcc

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Robert Conde said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:07:40PM -0500: > What would you suggest as an alternative? Like I said, it's a tradeoff. If it's important that you be able to refer back to the contents, encrypting to yourself is necessary. If it's important that you NOT be able

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:42:09PM -0700: > > Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind that hides X- headers for my > grandmother and nobody else? Or list all of the obnoxious ones, and then set up procmail to strip them out; that will work as a general

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:02:55PM -0700: > > Hey, that's a good idea. But how do I strip headers in procmail? Run stuff through sed, I suppose. I've never tried, but it should work. msg26006/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:53:18PM -0700: > > So long, suckers. You're an evil bastard, Fezta. :-) msg26007/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: mailers with scripting/setup language

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:12:41AM +0100: > > Not that I know, but it is quite dangerous to talk about Outlook in the > context of mail clients. Oh, it is a mail client, it's just not an Internet mail client. At the very least, it doesn't read RFC1521-compli

Re: setting content type in email header with mutt

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Donna Koenig said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 11:39:39AM -0500: > > Situation is: > We want to send out email that is html, but for those who only > accept or access text email, we wnat them to be able to open the email > also. OK, let me see if I get this right: You want to

Re: mailers with scripting/setup language

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 07:58:17PM +0100: > > > At the very least, it doesn't read RFC1521-compliant mails as > > recommended in the standard. > > Which has status informational only. Ok, first, wrong, it's standards-track, not informational. However, it *I

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:31:36PM -0700: > > Well, it sounds an awful lot like "Jessy" to me, which is a decidedly > female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;) Jesse Owens. Jesse Ventura. Insist on the same spelling? Ok. Jessy

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:44:26PM -0700: > > Besides, I'm only doing it to Incredimail users. I mean, if they want to > accost me with tons of useless X- headers, I shouldn't have to put up with > them (the headers, not the people) :P If you want elega

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 01:25:23PM -0700: > > I'd rather just rip off all the useless headers with an elegant 3-line > procmail recipie than have to hide them all with 10 or 20 lines of > ignore statements. You can have it both ways; use Procmail to pre

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:05:45PM -0700: > > That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke > without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess > david posted). ignore received x-nuke msg26096/pgp0.pgp

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:34:48PM -0700: > > ignore received x-nuke > > There are other headers I want to hide though. When I said have procmail prepend all the "bad" headers, I meant "every header you'd like to hide". > The only headers that I _want_

Re: Saving encrypted

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Alan Batie said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:03:24PM -0800: > first place. I discovered the fcc_clear option, which saves the message > unencrypted and have been living with that, but what I *really* want is to > save them encrypted to *me*. Mutt doesn't do that, but PGP does.

Re: mailers with scripting/setup language

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:04:14AM +0100: > > Just wondering why 1524 is so important to you... You lost me. To the best of my knowledge, I have never discussed RFC1524 in this or any other mailing list, prior to this exchange. RFC1521 is important to me be

Re: mailbox question

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Simon White said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 09:55:29AM +: > > I didn't think this list could be posted to by non members. I am now > going to have to find your address and copy-paste it up to the CC line. No, you don't "have" to. You choose to. Many people wouldn't. IMHO,

Re: Mail is not reaching destination

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 04:31:52PM +0100: > > like i said: "mutt is *not* for everyone" All users suck. mutt is for users who suck less. msg26149/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: mailers with scripting/setup language

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 04:31:01PM +0100: > > The point is that there're lots of people having to use it at work. Even > if those people are familiar to the standards, what shall they do if > they're not abled to convince someone with the power of decission no

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Simon White said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:41:05PM +: > > Text based rules, but in Solaris you are stuck with CDE anyway, it's not > worth shit without CDE. I've had luck in the past with GNOME, and evidently Sun doesn't totally disagree, since they're moving to GNOME as

Re: mailbox question

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Matthias Weiss said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:26:43PM +0100: > What do I gain from this when I have 3 mailing list on one and another 4 lists > on the other account? The ability to use mailing lists to help you solve problems without committing ettiquette errors that cause th

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:59:37PM -0700: > > [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system > is GPL'd ;) You don't have ps? What are you using instead? msg26222/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:29:08PM -0700: > > I don't use ps. Or any replacements. Ok. Do you use vim? msg26224/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:02:10PM -0800: > > /home/william/procps-2.0.7/ps > ladd% head COPYING > GNU LIBRARY GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE You quoted it right there; it's not GPL, it's LGPL. I was yanking Rob's chain, because he's an evil bast

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100: > > Just logged into a solaris box. Having set my prompt to 'user@machine' > it says that only root may run 'uname'. My response: 'exit'. Did you by any chance have a -S in that uname call? Because that's the only un

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Matthew D. Fuller said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:49:32AM -0600: > > I think he actually means 'hostname', not 'uname'; hostname, on any sane > system, displays the hostname when called with no args, and tries to set > it (requiring root at THAT point) when it has args. Solar

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:28:25AM -0500: > > Yeah; that was a very funny time. Too bad NT5 was renamed to Win2000 and > announced just ONE DAY before the fantastic announcement of Solaris 7, > the Operating System Rushed Out The Door In Time To Have A Higher >

Re: pgp_create_traditional in 1.5.0

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:55:08AM -0500: > > % has been changed so that application/pgp is no longer used (although > % there's an x-mutt-action=pgp-sign flag in the content/type so that mutt > % knows it's signed). those changes are from Thomas Roessler. > >

Re: Tag or delete by date or age

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what mike ledoux said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:29:20PM -0500: gpg: requesting key 57C3430B from wwwkeys.us.pgp.net ... gpg: key 57C3430B: invalid subkey binding gpg: key 57C3430B: no valid user IDs gpg: this may be caused by a missing self-signature Sign your key and re-submit

Re: Tag or delete by date or age

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:40:46PM -0500: > > % Sign your key and re-submit it. > > Better check what you have, too. If my key wasn't signed, GPG wouldn't accept it. msg26307/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Tag or delete by date or age

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:55:19PM -0500: > > No, no -- I meant that you had better check your copy of his key; as > shown, it works fine for me. I don't have a copy of his key; GPG attempted to import it from the keyserver, but the one on the keyserver didn't

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Ricardo SIGNES said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:40:44PM -0500: > > Except that Linux is only the kernel. Linux + GNU + some other files and > configuration is the OS. That, plus some applications is the distribution. You're wrong. msg26331/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: hiding the pgp sig completely from view?

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:37:11AM +0100: > > but - is there a way I can just *hide* > the pgp sig *completely* from view? Do you still want to verify the sigs, or not? If not, you could strip them with procmail. msg26333/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP si

Re: Saving encrypted

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Magnus Bodin said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 06:29:44AM +0100: > > Wouldn't it be a better solution to keep the whole sent-mail-folder > encrypted to using the open/close-hook-thingies in the > compressed-folders-patch? Probably be easier to put ~/Mail on a cfs filesystem.

Re: gpg-key probs (Was: Re: Tag or delete...)

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Martin Karlsson said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 12:36:32PM +0100: > > > And I get the same as David. I use 'keyserver pgp.mit.edu'. > But you should only have to upload to _one_ keyserver, right? There's more than one keyserver network. However, it's easier to ask somebody what

Re: Keyserver Bug (was: Re: Tag or delete by date or age)

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what mike ledoux said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 10:27:37AM -0500: > > and hand out an invalid key. This is a known problem in the keyserver > code. You can get a *valid* copy of my key from: > > http://www.volta.dyndns.org/~mwl/pgpkey.asc Yep, worked peachy. Thanks. > As st

Re: Word and RTF attachments

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 09:11:12AM -0800: > always be right. But I have recieved some email where an RTF file > has a '.doc' extension and an 'application/msword' mime type (probably > because of the extension). Other than educating the other user, > wh

Re: gpg-key probs (Was: Re: Tag or delete...)

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:14:23PM -0500: > > Are there just one or two, or are there a bunch, or does anyone really > know? Do the servers in a given network synchronize with each other, or > do even they have problems? I think there are a few, and some of th

Re: hiding the pgp sig completely from view?

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 07:53:12AM +0100: > > and i wonder whether there is a > way to make mutt's reply command > use the filtered text for quoting.. Ok, you want them to vanish for viewing, and vanish for quoting. Why is it that you don't use procmail to s

Re: Why is http address attachet to header?

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Patrik Modesto said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 10:24:42AM +0100: > I create new message, then to the first empty line under header i write > http://www.something.com and send this mail. This address is send as a > part of email's header and body of this mail is empty. Why? Is this

OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Shawn McMahon
Just to throw a little fuel on the fire: Look in the Sun training catalog, at how they define the products themselves. "Solaris 8 Operating Environment". Look at their web page: http://www.sun.com/solaris/ They call it the same thing. Then do a uname -a on a Solaris 8 system: SunOS chtsjs01

Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Champion said on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:58:32PM -0600: > No, not really. It's marketing. The definition of OS isn't marketing, it's Computer Science. It's been presented. It agrees with what I said. Get over it. msg26387/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gpg multible keyrings

2002-03-30 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Michael Tatge said on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 02:43:12PM +0100: > > I'd like to have an extra keyring for this list. What problem are you trying to solve? msg26422/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gnupg

2002-03-30 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what keeper1 said on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 12:48:23PM -0500: > Greetings! As a newbie to mutt, I was wondering if somebody could direct > me to a site that has a howto for mutt and gnupg to get me started. http://www.mutt.org msg26430/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-31 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 10:34:59PM -0500: > > ObTopic: I personally feel that X-Mailer should be available just like > every X-anything-else, but I don't care much more than that. Any header that's defined in a standard should be controlled, but X-Mailer is not

Compressed patch problems

2002-03-31 Thread Shawn McMahon
I applied the "compressed folders" patch, and it seemed to work. mutt -v shows: Mutt 1.3.28i (2002-03-13) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under

Re: Compressed patch problems

2002-03-31 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Martin Karlsson said on Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 02:27:45PM +0200: > Seems you haven't compiled mutt with support for compressed folders. GAR. Thanks, that was it. Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug. msg26440/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-31 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Collantes said on Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 08:54:39AM -0500: > > > Any header that's defined in a standard should be controlled, but > > X-Mailer is not defined in a standard. It shouldn't be controlled. > > What standards are you talking about? http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-31 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Collantes said on Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 10:05:22AM -0500: > > :- RFC's are *not* standards. Who ever told you so? RFCs are not Standards, but they are standards. If you don't think so, stop using MIME, because it hasn't been adopted as a Standard yet, despite bein

Re: OT: Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-31 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Collantes said on Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 04:41:57PM -0500: > > the message is signed, excellent! Totally valid in the court of law ;-) Bah, > will not be necessary: be sure to bring with you your curriculum, specially > your best Perl script. :- Over and out. Here:

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 01:03:29AM -0700: > > It's not a formal standard in any sense of the word "standard"; it's > more like a deeply rooted tradition that goes all the way back to the > early days of USENET (maybe even earlier). Goes back to FIDONET

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Dave Smith said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 05:33:36PM +0100: > > You could succumb to the non-standards-following world and use the > pgp_create_traditional variable. There are also other ways of signing My two cents: Succumb. Inline sigs are annoying, and when you get a comp

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 10:37:49AM -0700: > > just wondering why the non-standards-following option contains the word > traditional. Because usage of PGP predates the establishment of standards. > helpfull and it sort of relates to mutt...what is the

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:00:39AM -0700: > > ok. just to see how things work, i lsigned the key that i got from the > keyserver when i opened the email i am responding to. presumably your > key and email ;-). now when mutt invokes gpg, i get the sam

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 04:58:17PM +0100: > > My mistake. Same here. Solaris doesn't like the '-s' switch for > hostname. So I have to use 'hostname | cut ...' the get the short form. uname -n Works on both Linux and Solaris. msg26487/pgp0.pgp Descri

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 11:25:20PM +0100: > > ... but it doesn't help at all if people don't submit their key because > of paranoia. What's most annoying are the folks who not only don't submit their key, but they also don't put it on their web page, or they

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:02:23PM +0200: > Hi, > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:07:58:PM -0500 ShRen McMahon wrote: ^ Is that a stylistic choice, or is your config broken? msg26501/pgp0.pgp Description: P

Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:20:32PM +0200: > > It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what > would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'. Not that it does > make lots of sence or is extraordinary usefull, but to some of them

Re: pgp_create_traditional in 1.5.0

2002-04-02 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thomas Roessler said on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 05:59:32PM +0200: > >OpenPGP specifies application/pgp, but that breaks some MUAs that > >don't follow the OpenPGP RFC. > > Where does the OpenPGP RFC specify that? Sorry, I mispoke; it was another standard that specified that, an

Re: automating move of folders, imap to imap

2002-04-02 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Champion said on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:47:51AM -0600: > For doing this between two servers *neither* of which you have access > to, I don't see a way to automate it, since there's no direct means of > getting the folder tree structure in mutt and passing it to a script.

Re: echo $EUID

2002-04-03 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Mark J. Reed said on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:35:25PM -0500: > > In cases where there was an even wider divergence between the > BSD and System V commands (the ps(1) command being the most infamous > example), you may find the BSD version in /usr/ucb (this is analogous to > but

Re: echo $EUID

2002-04-03 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Mark J. Reed said on Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:18:57AM -0500: > You can also put two 'w's on /usr/ucb/ps and get the full command line of > every process, Nope; it has a cutoff after a certain number of characters, and there's nothing you can do about it. We ran into this prob

Re: Feature Request

2002-04-04 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:39:43AM +0200: > > feature request denied. > > macro index c ! That breaks "? for list" functionality. It would be better to assign it to another key: macro index I "!\r" Then get used to using "I" when you want it. msg266

Re: PGP Signing and Password

2002-04-04 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 10:04:41PM +0100: > > But I was wondering how other people do this and sign all outgoinging > emails. Do you just accept that you need to enter your password every > so often, and "thats life" so to speak? Yes. If it bothers yo

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-04 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 06:06:14PM -0700: > > a mime anyway so why not just add a pgp/mime part? is it even > possible to send an application/pgp message with an attachment? No. That's one reason inline signatures are evil. msg26729/pgp0.pgp

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