Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - vim :split

2002-03-11 Thread Sven Guckes
* Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020307 21:28]: On 07/03/02 Heiko Heil did speaketh: I use the splitting-feature of vim (:help sp). How do you use it to read mail in a folder though? Do you open the mbox file? $ vim ~/Mail/michael.soulier :split See? ;-) Sven -- Sven Guckes

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-10 Thread Thomas Baker
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Simon White wrote: I sure don't see them compiling Mutt using a cygwin environment or anything, but I have switched /some/ to PC-PINE, that's about as far as I'll get. For the record, PC-PINE does not use the Unix mbox format by default (making it incompatible with Unix

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-08 Thread Simon White
On 07-Mar-02 at 16:26, Michael P. Soulier's inspired musing was thus : Who uses the arrow keys?? hjkl man... As someone who can actually touch type and without looking at the keys even, it has always seemed stupid for vi to use hjkl, since this forces my hand out of the home position, where

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread Philip Mak
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 09:01:09AM -0500, Ben Logan wrote: Yes, it doesn't have nice and point-and-clicky interface, but I don't like them, anyway. Like many of you on this list probably do, I get several hundred messages a day (up to 600). I almost hyperventilate at the thought of

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread Simon White
I do find the mouse to be useful in some cases though: If I want to go to a specific message on the screen, it would be easier to just click it with the mouse than figuring out how many times I have to hit the arrow keys to get there. Jump to message number. Also, some GUI mail clients

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread Heiko Heil
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:30:30AM -0500, Philip Mak wrote: [...] (In mutt or pine, if I wanted to go look at another message while I'm already writing one, I'd have to postpone it, go look, and come back.) I use the splitting-feature of vim (:help sp). -- Cheers, Heiko Heil

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread David T-G
Philip, et al -- ...and then Philip Mak said... % ... % I do find the mouse to be useful in some cases though: If I want to go % to a specific message on the screen, it would be easier to just click % it with the mouse than figuring out how many times I have to hit the % arrow keys to get

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread MuttER
* Philip Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-07-02 11:33] crowed: Also, some GUI mail clients allow opening multiple windows to show more than one message at a time. That functionality is useful for when I want to compose a single reply to multiple messages, for example. (In mutt or pine, if I wanted

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 07/03/02 Philip Mak did speaketh: I do find the mouse to be useful in some cases though: If I want to go to a specific message on the screen, it would be easier to just click it with the mouse than figuring out how many times I have to hit the arrow keys to get there. Who uses the

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 07/03/02 Heiko Heil did speaketh: I use the splitting-feature of vim (:help sp). How do you use it to read mail in a folder though? Do you open the mbox file? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 07/03/02 MuttER did speaketh: Goodness... Open several xterm windows with mutt and look at all the different msgs you wish. I just tried xterm -e mutt, and I get a no such file or directory error. Any idea what that is? I'd like to put opening mutt in an xterm on an IceWM

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread darren chamberlain
Quoting Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07, 2002 16:30]: On 07/03/02 MuttER did speaketh: Goodness... Open several xterm windows with mutt and look at all the different msgs you wish. I just tried xterm -e mutt, and I get a no such file or directory error. Any idea what

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread Knute
On Thu, 07 Mar 2002, darren chamberlain wrote: Quoting Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07, 2002 16:30]: On 07/03/02 MuttER did speaketh: Goodness... Open several xterm windows with mutt and look at all the different msgs you wish. I just tried xterm -e mutt, and I

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-07 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 07/03/02 darren chamberlain did speaketh: I just tried xterm -e mutt, and I get a no such file or directory error. Any idea what that is? I'd like to put opening mutt in an xterm on an IceWM keybinding. Try xterm -e /path/to/mutt I should have been clearer. It loads mutt, but

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-06 Thread Ben Logan
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:22:04PM +, Dave Smith wrote: (snipped a bunch of good points) Yes, it doesn't have nice and point-and-clicky interface, but I don't like them, anyway. Like many of you on this list probably do, I get several hundred messages a day (up to 600). I almost

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-05 Thread Dave Smith
Our IT group have just fixed the mail setup so that I can send mail to the outside world... On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 11:05:16AM -0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also have a local linux user's group and a mailing list. A comment was made to the mailing list that mutt was handicapped.

Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - ha!

2002-03-02 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 28/02/02 Thomas Hurst did speaketh: I doubt I'd last long with mutt with the default keys.. makes quick backup of ~/.src I'd be interested in seeing the changes you made. I like the default keys, but then, I like Vi. :) I like vim,

Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - ha!

2002-03-02 Thread Timothy R. Robnett
On Fri Mar 01, 2002 at 10:20:01AM -0500, Ken Wahl wrote: Why mutt? Speed and flexibility If you subscribe to a number of mailing lists which are generally high-volume then mutt makes speedy navigation a breeze Mutt is so highly configurable that I imagine no 2 person' mutts are alike

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-01 Thread John Buttery
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 11:05:16AM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote: Hello All: Now that I have your attention - I and friends publish a webzine: http://wwwfrozen-north-linuxonlinecom/ And we publish monthly We also have a local linux user's group and a mailing list A comment was made

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-01 Thread Simon White
On 28-Feb-02 at 20:39, Ryan Singer's inspired musing was thus : On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 11:05:16AM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote: Is there anyone on this list that would like to contribute some comments about the advantages of switching from something like netscape mail to mutt?

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-03-01 Thread Will Yardley
Simon White wrote: - 1) Because I learned that PINE, which has always been pre-installed on my system, is not open source well to be fair, it's not open source according to some peoples' definition of open source the source code is freely available and you're allowed to make patches and

blind elitism (was Re: Is mutt really handicapped?)

2002-03-01 Thread Louis-David Mitterrand
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:23:35AM -0600, John Buttery wrote: This may sound a little more harsh than I mean it. This isn't a flame, just a statement of opinion; please take it as such... One of the worst things that is happening to Linux (and when I say Linux I'm including the BSD

Re: blind elitism (was Re: Is mutt really handicapped?)

2002-03-01 Thread John Buttery
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 10:38:22AM +0100, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:23:35AM -0600, John Buttery wrote: This may sound a little more harsh than I mean it. This isn't a flame, just a statement of opinion; please take it as such... One of the worst things

Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - ha!

2002-03-01 Thread Ken Wahl
Why mutt? Speed and flexibility. If you subscribe to a number of mailing lists which are generally high-volume then mutt makes speedy navigation a breeze. Mutt is so highly configurable that I imagine no 2 person' mutts are alike. I switched from Netscape to Pine for flexibility and options

Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - ha!

2002-03-01 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 01/03/02 Ken Wahl did speaketh: Mutt + vim + fetchmail + procmail + lbdb + gnupg + mixmaster = nirvana I know all of these except lbdb and mixmaster. What are they? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 ...the word HACK is used as a verb to

Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - ha!

2002-03-01 Thread Ken Wahl
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 07:11:31PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 01/03/02 Ken Wahl did speaketh: Mutt + vim + fetchmail + procmail + lbdb + gnupg + mixmaster = nirvana I know all of these except lbdb and mixmaster. What are they? lbdb = Little Brother's Database

Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - ha!

2002-03-01 Thread Knute
On Fri, 01 Mar 2002, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 01/03/02 Ken Wahl did speaketh: Mutt + vim + fetchmail + procmail + lbdb + gnupg + mixmaster = nirvana I know all of these except lbdb and mixmaster. What are they? lbdb is the little brothers data base. What that does is to record

Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - ha!

2002-02-28 Thread Sven Guckes
* Tim Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020228 19:55]: Is there anyone on this list that would like to contribute some comments about the advantages of switching from something like netscape mail to mutt? echo you cannot do this with netscape | mutt netscape-weenie nuff said. I have guided some

Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - ha!

2002-02-28 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: echo you cannot do this with netscape | mutt netscape-weenie nuff said. But I can't view all my HTML pr0n spam without an external program, mutt sucks111 I have guided some Linux people to switch from Netscape to mutt. So far they are not

Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - ha! ha!

2002-02-28 Thread Tim Johnson
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020228 14:30]: snip... I have guided some Linux people to switch from Netscape to mutt. So far they are not sorry at all. But it does take a few things to make them switch because you have to explain about some concepts. If you want a full report, well, give

Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - ha!

2002-02-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/02/02 Thomas Hurst did speaketh: I doubt I'd last long with mutt with the default keys makes quick backup of ~/src I'd be interested in seeing the changes you made I like the default keys, but then, I like Vi :) Mike msg24868/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Is mutt really handicapped?

2002-02-28 Thread Ryan Singer
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 11:05:16AM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote: Is there anyone on this list that would like to contribute some comments about the advantages of switching from something like netscape mail to mutt? the biggest advantage for me is speed i can fly through my email w/