Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2016-03-26 Thread Laurence Glazier
The solution I came up with for moving tasks to the bottom in a list that synchronizes between phone and PC, is to sort on Created Date. Set the Created Date to Now to move any task to the bottom. (It is quick to do this, toggling the Use Time control sets the time to now,) This method works in

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2016-02-19 Thread Laurence Glazier
It would seem so, but he is trying to solve a problem that may have no end, and is not hoping to relive the past. He more or less shares his models freely. But it is a major issue that he will only make systems that can be done with paper and pencil, which thereby misses all the outlining and f

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2016-02-19 Thread Laurence Glazier
It would seem so, but he is trying to solve a problem that may have no end, and is not hoping to relive the past. He more or less shares his models freely. But it is a major issue that he will only make systems that can be done with paper and pencil, which thereby misses all the outlining and f

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2016-01-22 Thread Dwight Arthur
Sorry,but it sounds a little bit like the singer Cher, who is wrapping up part two of her four year long "Final Goodbye Tour" sequel to her "goodbye tour". -Dwight MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2 On 1/22/2016 7:05 PM, Laurence Glazier wrote: I have since discovered the link I gav

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2016-01-22 Thread Laurence Glazier
I have since discovered the link I gave sees no action. All the discussion appears to be here: http://markforster.squarespace.com/fv-forum/ - as I expected would happen, Mark Forster is already trying to improve on his FVP, "Final Version Perfected". Laurence On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-26 Thread Laurence Glazier
Hi Lisa I made a view called FVP (the name of Mark Forster's latest system), and I keep this view only on Android. It is defined very simply, based on To-Do rather than Outline, no filter, no grouping, and manual-ordering. I specify the chain of tasks as he suggests by starring them, and work back

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-23 Thread Lisa Stroyan
What is the solution you ended up with on Android? Manually ordered list? Do you pull from across the task tree or are you working in the outline? Just curious! Lisa On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Laurence Glazier < laurence.glaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have made that mistake once, but not t

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-21 Thread Laurence Glazier
I have made that mistake once, but not this time. Only one Inbox! I have decided to look at the manual sync issues positively. I'll limit my use of Mark Forster's systems to the Android, and view that as a bonus facility which comes with the Android platform. I always have my phone with me and

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-20 Thread Dwight Arthur
Is there any chance that you have more than one inbox? -Dwight MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4 On Dec 20, 2015, Laurence Glazier wrote: >Update - I found that if I set the context for Inbox on the Android >device, >new items added inherit it. > >On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 2:23:07 PM UTC, Lau

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-20 Thread Laurence Glazier
Update - I found that if I set the context for Inbox on the Android device, new items added inherit it. On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 2:23:07 PM UTC, Laurence Glazier wrote: > > That's strange, Dwight, I am using the same handset, a Note 4. I will look > at this more closely and see if I can f

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-20 Thread Laurence Glazier
That's strange, Dwight, I am using the same handset, a Note 4. I will look at this more closely and see if I can fix it before contacting support. On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 5:15:31 AM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: > > Laurence, on my Samsung Note 4 running Android 5.1.1 and MLO 2.0.14 new > ta

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-19 Thread Dwight Arthur
Laurence, on my Samsung Note 4 running Android 5.1.1 and MLO 2.0.14 new tasks added to the inbox inherit the context of the inbox folder. I have tried adjusting settings that seem as though they might have an impact but no matter what i do the inheritance continues to occur. I have no idea why i

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-19 Thread Laurence Glazier
A quick update. Using contexts seems to work quite well. One problem you may be able to advise on. I ascribed the context "New none" to the Inbox, and all tasks I inbox in Windows automatically get this context, but on Android, whether I use the widget or the app to inbox intems, the context is

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-19 Thread Laurence Glazier
Thanks Dwight I might choose the path of outline based views. For the moment I have been tweaking the importance slider but I can see this may get harder as time goes on! I tried a different approach today, by using the Active by Context view. To move a task to the bottom of the list, I would s

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-17 Thread Dwight Arthur
You mention an important point. In a to-do list view, the included tasks are shown in a flat list either ordered according to a defined set of sort rules or else ordered according to a manual sort. Outline views in contrast show the included tasks in a hierarchical list. Most of the time, the

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-17 Thread Laurence Glazier
Thanks Dwight I will try something like that for the time being, and see how well it works for me. I can revert to using Active Starred view, and starring every task, which works though does not make the application shine! If there is a solution we have both overlooked, I suspect it is in outli

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-17 Thread Dwight Arthur
Thanks for the link to FVP, it was an interesting read. I had been going to suggest something about using dependencies to form tasks into a chain but its clear that this would not help manage FVP. If I wanted to do this: I would use Importance. I would start by multiselecting all of the tasks i

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-17 Thread Laurence Glazier
Sounds intriguing! As I understand it, each successive activity in the chain is more desirable (or less undesirable) than the preceding one. The last one in the chain is always the preferred one from the entire list. You work on that one. If you leave it unfinished, you remove it from the chain

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-16 Thread Dwight Arthur
*maybe* I could suggest something but first I need to see if I am understanding you. When you have built a chain of projects do you always work on the first item in a chain or does relative procrastination involve skipping to the second or third task? -Dwight MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and

[MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-16 Thread Laurence Glazier
Thanks Stephen I've searched, but Mark Forster has moved on since AutoFocus and his latest methods require manual repositioning of tasks - so far I haven't found an easy solution. Here's a link to his latest method: Final Version Perfected

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-16 Thread Laurence Glazier
Thanks Dwight. Today I have been trying out Nick's idea of adjusting the importance and urgency, it's good I got some practice with that, it might work, at least it means the stars can be used as stars. Mark Forster has changed his systems over the years, and I want to share a link here to his

[MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-16 Thread Stephen Jones
Laurence, There have been some previous discussions about this topic. Try this topic or just do a search on Mark Forster. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/mylifeorganized/mark$20forster/mylifeorganized/LDLD05dkR0w/TuldWWa-OvQJ Cheers Stephen J -- You received this messa

Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-16 Thread Dwight Arthur
Hi, Laurence. I can't comment too far because I don't know anything about the Forster methodology but I have some advice about effective use of MLO. One of the challenges with any task manager is to ensure that the productivity gains outweigh the time you spend managing and tweaking the tool.

[MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

2015-12-16 Thread Laurence Glazier
Thanks Nick, I will try that out. On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 1:40:24 PM UTC, Nick Clark wrote: > > I don't know the methodology you refer to, but have you tried "playing" > with the Importance and Urgency sliders in an Active Actions view? These > coupled with Context filters and context