oops..sorryproblem seems to be with base...so i meant to post it in
base mailing list
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:37 AM, rounak jain rounak.m...@gmail.com wrote:
I have connected MySql to Base. I created some relationships in MySql.
They are properly visible in the Relationships chart
hey guys ;
it's not Customers Per issue it's the other way around issues per
customer
i enter in Customer 1 and then down the road i wanna add a issue
associated with that customer, so goto that customer and Click Add issue
the a form Comes up and i add the issue and Click Add issue, i need
Brian E Boothe wrote:
hey guys ;
it's not Customers Per issue it's the other way around issues per
customer
i enter in Customer 1 and then down the road i wanna add a issue
associated with that customer, so goto that customer and Click Add issue
the a form Comes up and i add the issue and
Gerald L. Clark said:
Brian E Boothe wrote:
hey guys ;
it's not Customers Per issue it's the other way around issues per
customer
i enter in Customer 1 and then down the road i wanna add a issue
associated with that customer, so goto that customer and Click Add
issue
the a form Comes up
Brian E Boothe wrote:
hey guys ;
it's not Customers Per issue it's the other way around issues per
customer
i enter in Customer 1 and then down the road i wanna add a issue
associated with that customer, so goto that customer and Click Add issue
the a form Comes up and i add the issue and
Scott Klarenbach wrote:
These are the tables in question:
RFQ (Request for Quote)
Part
Inventory
Inventory items ALWAYS have a partID.
RFQ items ALWAYS have a partID.
However, sometimes, RFQ items have an inventoryID as well. Now, we have a
redundancy problem. Because, in those instances
These are the tables in question:
RFQ (Request for Quote)
Part
Inventory
Inventory items ALWAYS have a partID.
RFQ items ALWAYS have a partID.
However, sometimes, RFQ items have an inventoryID as well. Now, we have a
redundancy problem. Because, in those instances when the RFQ has an
Scott,
I'm sure this type of problem is run up against all the time, and I'm
wondering what the best practice methodology is from experienced DBA's.
It looks like the kind of problem database schemas are meant to
_avoid_.
>From your description it seems you have ...
part (
partID PRIMARY
of a relational
database?- TO CHECK RELATIONSHIPS between tables and enforce
that those relationships aren't broken? I find it disappointing
that MySQL ignores this relationship.
Add ENGINE = InnoDB to the end of your table definitions.
Foreign keys are supported only for InnoDB tables in MySQL.
I am
this
same syntax in PostgreSQL and it doesn't allow the schedules.id
record to be deleted without first removing any records in the
registration table which carry a matching schedule_id record.
Isn't that the point of a relational database?- TO CHECK
RELATIONSHIPS between tables and enforce
?- TO CHECK RELATIONSHIPS between tables
and enforce that those relationships aren't broken? I find it
disappointing that MySQL ignores this relationship.
Add ENGINE = InnoDB to the end of your table definitions.
Foreign keys are supported only for InnoDB tables in MySQL.
I am using InnoDB. I use MySQL
to be deleted without first removing any records in the
registration table which carry a matching schedule_id record. Isn't
that the point of a relational database?- TO CHECK RELATIONSHIPS
between tables and enforce that those relationships aren't broken?
I find it disappointing that MySQL
in PostgreSQL and it doesn't allow the
schedules.id record to be deleted without first removing any
records in the registration table which carry a matching
schedule_id record. Isn't that the point of a relational
database?- TO CHECK RELATIONSHIPS between tables and enforce
that those relationships
that the point of a relational database?- TO CHECK
RELATIONSHIPS between tables and enforce that those relationships aren't
broken? I find it disappointing that MySQL ignores this relationship.
Ferindo
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carry a matching schedule_id record. Isn't that the point of a
relational database?- TO CHECK RELATIONSHIPS between tables and
enforce that those relationships aren't broken? I find it
disappointing that MySQL ignores this relationship.
Add ENGINE = InnoDB to the end of your table definitions
in the registration table
which carry a matching schedule_id record. Isn't that the point of a
relational database?- TO CHECK RELATIONSHIPS between tables and
enforce that those relationships aren't broken? I find it
disappointing that MySQL ignores this relationship.
Add ENGINE = InnoDB to the end
removing any records in the registration table
which carry a matching schedule_id record. Isn't that the point of a
relational database?- TO CHECK RELATIONSHIPS between tables and
enforce that those relationships aren't broken? I find it
disappointing that MySQL ignores this relationship.
Add
...
Now, the RelationshipTable can have zero to many relationships between a
child and a parent. You can even add a Label column in there if you
want to label the relationship type somehow.
And it may be better to create separate tables for each taxonomic level,
like you said. Eventually one
Suppose I want to create an animal kingdom database
that gives me the option of displaying the following
taxonomic hierarchies:
1) A bread crumbs navigation string, including ALL
taxons; e.g. Animalia (kingdom) Chordata (phylum)
Vertebrata (a SUBphylum) Mammalia (class) Eutheria
(a SUBclass)
I just thought of a possible solution. Instead of
listing all the phyla, orders, classes, families,
genera and species in one big table, create separate
tables for each taxonomic level.
Each taxon would then have two parents. the genus Sus'
(pigs) parents would be both the subfamily Suinae and
Paul Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/19/2005 06:50:48 PM:
Was there a reply to this post? If so, I could have (did) missed it. Can
you please resend?
Rgds
Paul.
Sorry, but I never said (woops!)
Which language I use depends on where I want to run the script and how
often,
Was there a reply to this post? If so, I could have (did) missed it. Can
you please resend?
Rgds
Paul.
Shawn, what language(s) are you using to parse this? Could you share the
code?
Thanks,
Dave Merrill
I prefer to parse the results of a SHOW CREATE TABLE... query. It's
rather trivial to
Paul Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/17/2005 12:04:13 AM:
Hi,
How can I, if at all, acquire table relationships - in particular
one-to-may/many-to-one relationships? I have looked into the
DatabaseMetaData object (Java) , but have not as yet been able to
acquire the said
Shawn, what language(s) are you using to parse this? Could you share the
code?
Thanks,
Dave Merrill
I prefer to parse the results of a SHOW CREATE TABLE... query. It's
rather trivial to detect which rows in the result of that statement are
your FOREIGN KEYS. They not only indicate which
Hi,
How can I, if at all, acquire table relationships - in particular
one-to-may/many-to-one relationships? I have looked into the
DatabaseMetaData object (Java) , but have not as yet been able to
acquire the said relationship data. I post to this list as the ability
to pull
Hi,
How can I, if at all, acquire table relationships - in particular
one-to-may/many-to-one relationships? I have looked into the
DatabaseMetaData object (Java) , but have not as yet been able to
acquire the said relationship data. I post to this list as the ability
to pull
it was
installed was, okay, how the hell do I open up the app and start
work?).
Now I'd like to create some relationships between the tables in my
database. But I'm having some trouble getting my head around how to do
this - probably because I'm working with an Access paradigm. Imagine I
had two tables
or two on my part (my first question after it was
installed was, okay, how the hell do I open up the app and start
work?).
Now I'd like to create some relationships between the tables in my
database. But I'm having some trouble getting my head around how to do
this - probably because I'm working
or two on my part (my first question after
it was installed was,
okay, how the hell do I open up the app and start work?).
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| Now I'd like to create some relationships between the tables in my database.
But I'm having some
trouble getting my head around how to do this - probably because I'm working
: newbie: relationships between fields
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| I'm hoping to move to MySQL from Access, mostly so I can use my Mac to
build databases. So far
I've been able to set up MySQL, connect to it, and create databases and
tables. Getting to this
point
Hi All,
This is more of a general SQL database question than a MySQL question, but
since I use MySQL almost exclusively I thought I would ask here.
Up until now, when designing a database, I always plotted out the
relationships on paper, with pen/pencil. I've filled large pieces of paper
Hi Joshua,
Hi All,
This is more of a general SQL database question than a MySQL question, but
since I use MySQL almost exclusively I thought I would ask here.
Up until now, when designing a database, I always plotted out the
relationships on paper, with pen/pencil. I've filled large
:
bsrc.ac.uk Fax to:
Subject: RI enforcement and m2m
relationships.
06/02/2004 06:45
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't see how you can possibly hope to satisfy two mutually dependent
constraints at the exact same time. It's a chicken-and-egg scenario. If you
can't create your vacancy record first (to get its PK value) you won't be
able to create the new record in your supervision
Para: eifion herbert (IAH-C)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Assunto: RI enforcement and m2m relationships.
Hi all,
I'm developing a database to store job adverts to appear on a company
website.
Each vacancy has at least one supervisor, but may have more than one,
and a supervisor may be responsible
Dear List,
I am working on a database of electronic compositions (and installations
etc.) and currently have, amongst others, the following tables:
ARTIST(_id_,...)
SCORE(_id_,_artist_id_,...)
COMPOSITIONS(_id_,_score_id_,...)
INSTALLATIONS(_id_,_score_id_,...)
PERFORMANCES(_id_,???)
The
, 25 de maio de 2004 09:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Relationships Question
Dear List,
I am working on a database of electronic compositions (and installations
etc.) and currently have, amongst others, the following tables:
ARTIST(_id_,...)
SCORE(_id_,_artist_id_,...)
COMPOSITIONS(_id_
Three tables:
computers (Describes computers)
users (Describes users)
comp-user-link (Links users to computers in a 1 user to many computers
relationship)
Could someone offer advice on how to construct a select statement to
show which users aren't in the comp-user-link table? Sort of the
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Three tables:
computers (Describes computers)
users (Describes users)
comp-user-link (Links users to computers in a 1 user to many
computers
relationship)
Could someone offer
:
05/25/2004 02:39 Fax to:
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aren't present
,the solution depends on your primary keys.
SELECT u.*
FROM users u
LEFT OUTER JOIN
comp-user-link c
ON u.userID = c.userID
WHERE c.userID IS NULL
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From: Brad Tilley
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Sent: 5/25/04 1:39 PM
Subject: Search for relationships that aren't present
Three tables
Brad Tilley wrote:
I should better describe the tables:
computers has 'comp_id' as its primary, unique key.
users has 'user_id' as its primary, unique key.
comp-user-link has two (and only two fields) that are *never* null:
Except within the context of a left join.
Every user in a left join
Victor Shawn,
Thanks for the select info and the relationship info. Both of your
examples worked.
The reason we designed a separate linking table is that we wanted to
always keep the computers separate from the users. A container of users
and a container of computers with a linking table
Ah yes, thank you Gerald.
I didn't understand this until now. I guess I should say that 'by
design' the linking table will never contain a null, but the left join
changes that. Thank you for pointing that out.
gerald_clark wrote:
Brad Tilley wrote:
I should better describe the tables:
to:
PM Subject: Re: Search for relationships
that aren't present
Brad Tilley wrote:
I should better describe the tables:
computers has 'comp_id' as its primary, unique key.
users has 'user_id' as its primary, unique key.
comp-user-link has two (and only two fields) that are *never* null:
'comp_id' (which must be unique), and 'user_id'
Every computer is linked
a LEFT JOIN should do the trick
something like this:
SELECT users.user_id
FROM users
LEFT JOIN comps_users_link ON
(users.user_id=comps_users_link.user_id)
WHERE comps_users_link.computer_id IS NULL
olinux
--- Brad Tilley wrote:
Three tables:
computers (Describes computers)
users
I'm actually i deep doubts with this.
Price is not a thing itself, good point. But in my
case, it was the best way i found out to model.
Suppose you got a company the rents a place (just a
big room, or a party house) for any kinda envents
you'd to make. The company is clear an entity, and the
OK I am a umber newbie. And I have decided to change that. I was
wondering how do you create relationships between tables? If you know
where it talks about it in the MySQL reference manual you can direct me
there. But I have not been able to find it. So this is my first
question. Thank you!
Bryan
Use INNODB and use FK constraints / cascades.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Creating Relationships
OK I am a umber newbie. And I have decided to change that. I
Hi,
i have a M:N relationship between PRODUCT and PRICE.
1 product may be associated to N prices and 1 prices
may belong to N products.
I got special cases the some kinda product MUST have
only 1 price associated with it.
I don't what would be the best way to model this
flag for the special case.
Leandro Melo wrote:
Hi,
i have a M:N relationship between PRODUCT and PRICE.
Is Price an Entity or an Attribute? I'm not accustomed to using price as
a Thing. What is it that causes a Product to have one, exactly, or more
prices? Is it its relationship to some other thing? Or is it a special
How do I create relationships between tables?
I have tried but have no way of being sure that I am successful just by
looking at the db. I am not sure how to relate one record in one table
to it corresponding record in another.
Mat
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Hi, is there a way of showing relationships in mysql?
such as. mysql SHOW relationships
Bob
* Robert Morgan
Hi, is there a way of showing relationships in mysql?
such as. mysql SHOW relationships
No. The relationships are dynamic, defined by join statements on the fly.
You can however show any defined foreign key constraints using SHOW CREATE
TABLE tablename.
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Hi, sorry for my english, but, how can I do relationships between
tables? Is possible?
Thanks, Paulo Daniel
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Hi, sorry for my english, but, how can I do relationships between
tables? Is possible?
This is done using different types of JOIN:
URL: http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/JOIN.html
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Hello,
starting from some software database spesification,
defined in some Enhanced entity relationship diagram,
resulting in all kinds of
relationships,
1:1
1:Many
Many:1
Many : many
And last but not least:
Subclass/superclass relationship
This seems to be a small problem for me
relationships among your
tables.
If the database system doesn't recognize the foreign key
columns as foreign keys, then you must programatically
ensure that referential integrity is maintained:
--when you insert a new record, make sure that any foreign
key points to an existing record (a record
I am a newbie to db.
I have a few tables, one that I define the primary key.
CREATE TABLE member (
memid INT(6) UNSIGNED ZEROFILL DEFAULT '002000' NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
last VARCHAR(20) DEFAULT '' NOT NULL,
first VARCHAR(20) DEFAULT
Hi Carlos,
I believe that would have to be 2 separated steps.
1) creating the value in the primary key and
2) creating the foreign key value
However you can use UNION to write both statements in one go.
Best regards
Nils Valentin
Tokyo/Japan
2003 7 26 05:20Write a Friend :
I am a newbie
Nils,
Thanks. I will code accordingly.
Carlos
Hi Carlos,
I believe that would have to be 2 separated steps.
1) creating the value in the primary key and
2) creating the foreign key value
However you can use UNION to write both statements in one go.
Best regards
Nils Valentin
Hi,
Can anyone explain me how to create relationships between tables in Mysql?
For making some kind of functions like joins, it is indispensable to have
relationships defined?
Thanks in advanced.
eli
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Hi Eli,
The short answer is .. you create relationships between tables by creating
foreign keys and primary keys. However, you might not even need them ;-) - I
explain below.
Foreign keys and primary keys are used to create relations between tables.
Using them will bind you to some rules
can use foreign keys in your database design and
programming without actually formally declaring them as
such in the database system. Indeed, as you point out, you
*have* to use them to establish relationships among your
tables.
If the database system doesn't recognize the foreign key
columns
On Friday 07 March 2003 00:43, Chris Montgomery wrote:
I have been using MS Access for 5+ years and am new to MySQL. I
understand the theory behind setting relationships between tables, but
am trying to get up to speed in how to do it in MySQL.
My environment: Win2k and MySQL 3.23.54
Howdy Egor,
Friday, March 7, 2003, 7:36:00 AM, Egor Egorov wrote:
Both columns Node are indexed, so just add foreign key constraint. You can
find examples in the InnoDB manual:
http://www.innodb.com/ibman.html#InnoDB_foreign_keys
I've looked at the examples, but one thing it doesn't
Disregard my previous msg. It looks like I have it figured out.
Friday, March 7, 2003, 5:31:38 PM, Chris Montgomery wrote:
I've looked at the examples, but one thing it doesn't mention is whether
both indexes need to be unique. In the primary table they are, but does
the index in the table
Howdy,
I have been using MS Access for 5+ years and am new to MySQL. I
understand the theory behind setting relationships between tables, but
am trying to get up to speed in how to do it in MySQL.
My environment: Win2k and MySQL 3.23.54
Here's what I want to do: I have two tables, categories
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Kip McGee wrote:
will you please take me off of your mailing list if you dont im gonna
when new data comes in. On a regular basis (probably once
every two days), I'll be getting a new text file with the relationships
in a format that looks like:
SKU_ONE AGENT_ONE
SKU_ONE AGENT_TWO
SKU_TWO AGENT_ONE
SKU_TWO AGENT_TWO
SKU_TWO AGENT_THREE
) unsigned NOT NULL,
UNIQUE KEY skuagent (sku,agent),
KEY agentsku (agent,sku),
);
That's fine as far as it goes, but I can't figure out how to repopulate
the tables when new data comes in. On a regular basis (probably once
every two days), I'll be getting a new text file with the relationships
be getting a new text file with the relationships
in a format that looks like:
SKU_ONE AGENT_ONE
SKU_ONE AGENT_TWO
SKU_TWO AGENT_ONE
SKU_TWO AGENT_TWO
SKU_TWO AGENT_THREE
SKU_THREE AGENT_BLUE
SKU_THREE AGENT_ORANGE
etc. The text is what gets shoved
I couldn't think of a better term for what I want to do...
I am building a CMS for news stories. Often news stories are related to each
other, or need to be grouped by content. I need a simple way to manage
storyId relationships - in both directions.
Thinking about the business logic
Geoffrey,
Friday, January 17, 2003, 12:01:20 PM, you wrote:
I couldn't think of a better term for what I want to do...
I am building a CMS for news stories. Often news stories are related to each
other, or need to be grouped by content. I need a simple way to manage
storyId relationships
wrote:
I couldn't think of a better term for what I want to do...
I am building a CMS for news stories. Often news stories are related to each
other, or need to be grouped by content. I need a simple way to manage
storyId relationships - in both directions.
Their is no easy answer
Hi,
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From: Hoffman, Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:01 PM
Subject: Whats the best way to manage 'generic two-way relationships'?
I couldn't think of a better term for what I want to do...
I am building a CMS
Hello,
I am trying to create a shopping cart for my company and have hit a
snag.
I have created a database in MySQL that has several tables. How would I
go about displaying the fields from one table based on the fields in the
other?
Let me explain. I have a table called forder_details which
In MS Access you define relationships between Key ID
fields by dragging a line on the screen from the
parent table to the child table.
So, if you are enforcing referential integrity you
can not delete data that is referred to by another
table or mess up the basic db structure... (think I
have
tmb wrote:
In MS Access you define relationships between Key ID
fields by dragging a line on the screen from the
parent table to the child table.
Read up on referential integrity and InnoDB tables in the online docs at
http://www.mysql.com/doc/en
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Hi,
I am new to MySQL and was needing to know about MySQL and
relationship between tables. Can it be done and if so how?
Any docs or show me how would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
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Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:06 AM
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Subject: MySQL Relationships
Hi,
I am new to MySQL and was needing to know about MySQL and
relationship between tables. Can it be done and if so how?
Any docs or show me how would be greatly
Hey gang,
I have two tables:
user
++--+--+-+-+---+
| Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra |
++--+--+-+-+---+
| user_id| int(10) unsigned |
In the last episode (Jun 07), Jule Slootbeek said:
Hey gang,
I have two tables:
user
++--+--+-+-+---+
| Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra |
Hello friends,
In Access, we build relationships between tables and keys, How do we do this
between keys in mysql?
Thanks
Denis
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Denis,
Wednesday, May 01, 2002, 1:09:07 PM, you wrote:
DLM In Access, we build relationships between tables and keys, How do we do this
DLM between keys in mysql?
What about foreign keys?
Look at the manual, you can find some info about foreign keys in
MySQL:
http://www.mysql.com/doc/A/N
Hello friends,
Can someone tell me how I can build the relationships between tables in
mysql? I have tried books and web manuals. Even a link will do.
Thanks
Denis
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Perhaps I fail to catch the humour in your response, or the flavour of this
newsgroup, but I find your answer in no way helpful, and beyond that quite
insulting to Access.
1. I have developed applications in Access comprising over 1000
Hello Everyone.
I'm still fairly a newbie to MySQL, but I could have sworn I read
somewhere that MySQL supported relationships just like Access. I've
searched the entire manual, and cannot find anything on the subject.
Does MySQL support relationships, and if so does anyone know where I can
find
Actually, no. The addiction to MySQL has caused many relationship break-ups.
There's probably even a database with that information out there somewhere.
Probably a MySQL database, too. Meanwhile Access supports relationships
because it blows so hard that people can't wait to get away from
* Andrew Kuebler
I'm still fairly a newbie to MySQL, but I could have sworn I read
somewhere that MySQL supported relationships just like Access. I've
searched the entire manual, and cannot find anything on the subject.
Does MySQL support relationships, and if so does anyone know where I can
On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 14:35, Andrew Kuebler wrote:
Hello Everyone.
I'm still fairly a newbie to MySQL, but I could have sworn I read
somewhere that MySQL supported relationships just like Access. I've
searched the entire manual, and cannot find anything on the subject.
Does MySQL support
, with numerous complex relationships and
C++ components that interfaced to instruments such as scales, scanners, etc.
I am not the only one to push Access that far.
2. To answer Andrew's question, the answer is No. MySQL does not support
defined relationships. The InnoDB extension provides this support.
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Subject: Re: I thought MySQL Supported Relationships
Perhaps I fail to catch the humour in your response, or the flavour of this
newsgroup, but I find your answer in no way helpful, and beyond that quite
insulting to Access.
1. I have developed applications in Access
This is my first post to the list
What is the best way of making a relationship between tables in Mysql.
Do you set it up when you are creating the tables or is it done with the
insert statement
I am a newbie to Mysql, BTW
Guy
: relationships between databases
DG:
DG:
DG:
DG: This is my first post to the list
DG:
DG: What is the best way of making a relationship between tables in Mysql.
DG: Do you set it up when you are creating the tables or is it done with the
DG: insert statement
DG:
DG
Hi folks,
Can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know how to
define a relationship between tables in MySQL eg one-to-many. I haven't
come across it in the manual yet, but am sure it must be there somewhere.
Many thanks in advance,
Chris Malloch
Berlin
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From: Chris Malloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:54 AM
Subject: Tables relationships
Hi folks,
Can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know how
over simplifies the process and itself imposes data
integrity questions.
Pat...
.
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Subject: Re: Relationships???
If you are really after referential
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