Re: how many bits of entropy do we need for load balancing?

2020-12-14 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey, On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 02:28, wrote: > There are 3 kind of hashing algorithm I'm sure there are a lot more. Like 'cryptographic' purposes are ambiguous. Proving that content hasn't been changed requires hash to be fast and HW friendly, using hash to protect password requires hash to be

Re: how many bits of entropy do we need for load balancing?

2020-12-14 Thread nanog
o/ Small of out topic On 12/14/20 7:16 PM, Lawrence Wobker wrote: A “perfect” balancing algorithm would be crypto grade hash generation with a large output, and a true modulo operation to select which member we use. There are 3 kind of hashing algorithm The first one is used to check the

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
Saku Ytti wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 19:12, Miles Fidelman wrote: As to chess... I've begun to think that the game to master is now Go... capturing territory, not pieces, and instantaneous global state changes. Now implies change, when, in your mind, this changed from Chess to Go? Not

Re: how many bits of entropy do we need for load balancing?

2020-12-14 Thread Saku Ytti
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 16:58, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG wrote: > The IPv6 flow label is 20 bits but hardware implementations do their > balancing only on a subset of that, e.g. 12 or 16 bits. Why? I don't think it's fundamentally true. Even if we imagine your instruction set reading

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/14/20 19:44, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote: This stuff is definitely the most visible type of scamming but this is not any different from swindling people at a flea market. It isn't so much hacking as just using internet to communicate with people and then tricking them.  I think this is a

Re: how many bits of entropy do we need for load balancing?

2020-12-14 Thread Lawrence Wobker
So I’d argue that the pedantic answer is “you need only as many bits of entropy as your largest fan out” — meaning that 10 bits would allow 1024-way ECMP. But I don’t think that’s what you were actually after... Most of the challenges I’ve seen are not around how many bits you end up with,

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Dec 12, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Peter E. Fry p...@tailbone.net wrote: Hi, > Simple question: What's the purpose of obtaining illicit access to > random devices on the Internet these days Don't underestimate the curiosity if pimply faced youth these days. Wargames is still relevant. Thanks,

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Laszlo Hanyecz
On 2020-12-14 16:48, Mark Tinka wrote: On 12/14/20 18:38, David Bass wrote: It becomes more clear when you think about the options out there, and get a little creative.  Now a days it’s definitely chess that’s being played. You're right, it really doesn't take much. Preying on humanity

Re: Spectrum / TimeWarner contact

2020-12-14 Thread Jared Geiger
Maybe the route dampening expired, we've got connectivity again. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:26 AM Jared Geiger wrote: > I think Spectrum / Timewarner AS 7843 is dampening one of my routes > 199.19.120.0/22. Can someone contact me to help diagnose the issue? We're > not a customer traffic leaving

Spectrum / TimeWarner contact

2020-12-14 Thread Jared Geiger
I think Spectrum / Timewarner AS 7843 is dampening one of my routes 199.19.120.0/22. Can someone contact me to help diagnose the issue? We're not a customer traffic leaving Timewarner doesn't make it off the network and I'm unable to trace into the timewarner network. To TW mtr --report

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Saku Ytti
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 19:12, Miles Fidelman wrote: > As to chess... I've begun to think that the game to master is now Go... > capturing territory, not pieces, and instantaneous global state changes. Now implies change, when, in your mind, this changed from Chess to Go? -- ++ytti

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/14/20 19:08, Miles Fidelman wrote: As to chess... I've begun to think that the game to master is now Go... capturing territory, not pieces, and instantaneous global state changes. #TheQueensGambit :-). Mark.

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
David Bass wrote: It becomes more clear when you think about the options out there, and get a little creative.  Now a days it’s definitely chess that’s being played. And here I thought the purpose of hacking is (still) having fun - you know... hacking. As to chess... I've begun to think that

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/14/20 18:38, David Bass wrote: It becomes more clear when you think about the options out there, and get a little creative.  Now a days it’s definitely chess that’s being played. You're right, it really doesn't take much. Preying on humanity can yield great results. One that has

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread David Bass
It becomes more clear when you think about the options out there, and get a little creative. Now a days it’s definitely chess that’s being played. This Solarwinds thing is going to be extremely interesting. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:35 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 12/14/20 18:23, Ryland

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/14/20 18:23, Ryland Kremeier wrote: I would have to disagree. Considering the amount of people who have bitcoin, and even less the amount of people who farm it, or have farmed it before it became so difficult. It seems much more likely that the wide-spread infiltrations of every-day

RE: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Ryland Kremeier
I would have to disagree. Considering the amount of people who have bitcoin, and even less the amount of people who farm it, or have farmed it before it became so difficult. It seems much more likely that the wide-spread infiltrations of every-day systems is for information and DDoS over

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Laszlo Hanyecz
Bitcoin. There wasn't much purpose to 'hacking' for a long time.  Even when talking about DDoS stuff, it's still just temporary vandalism, it's only an inconvenience, and it can be undone pretty quickly.  The whole idea of providing security has been turned into a wink-wink scam where people

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 09:58:01AM -0500, Tom Beecher wrote: > Questionable cloud / VPS / hosting companies are great for spammers and > botnet C, but not so great for DDoS "ion cannons". You still need a large > volume of geographically diverse endpoints for those to be effective. To piggyback

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread James R Cutler
The probable "purpose of obtaining illicit access to random devices on the Internet these days” is to create botnets to attack more lucrative targets or to employ them as gateway devices to provide access to local networks which may contain targets of interest. James R. Cutler

RE: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Ryland Kremeier
I think you’re coming at it the wrong way. It’s not going to be one, or a couple of dudes behind a screen like in the movies. It’s ran autonomously for as long as possible. Gathering information on easily accessible devices and the like. Any information gathered is information that can be sold,

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Tom Beecher
Questionable cloud / VPS / hosting companies are great for spammers and botnet C, but not so great for DDoS "ion cannons". You still need a large volume of geographically diverse endpoints for those to be effective. On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:52 AM Peter E. Fry wrote: > > Simple question: What's

how many bits of entropy do we need for load balancing?

2020-12-14 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG
Dear all: How many bits of entropy do we need for (ECMP) load balancing in the core? This question has kept coming up regularly in many discussions and drafts at the IETF. The IPv6 flow label is 20 bits but hardware implementations do their balancing only on a subset of that, e.g. 12 or 16

"Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-14 Thread Peter E . Fry
Simple question: What's the purpose of obtaining illicit access to random devices on the Internet these days, considering that a large majority of attacks are now launched from cheap, readily available and poorly managed/overseen "cloud" services? Finding anything worthwhile to steal on