Re: [Spam]Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Carsten Bormann
Hundred Meg, Ten Gig, One erm...? Maybe harder to create vernacular for. > On 2020-11-23, at 14:35, Mark Tinka wrote: > […] > > Given that Tbps is still relatively uncommon in many operator networks, it's > not uncommon to hear people say Megabit and Gigabit with no problem, but say >

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Jeff Shultz
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:21 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 11/23/20 18:14, Thomas Scott wrote: > > "Terrorbits" sounds like a 3 year old unplugging a router - over and over > > > Because of dead wi-fi, or just for giggles :-)? > > Mark. > Pets. I'm pretty sure the cat was the culprit for a tech

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Nick Hilliard
Warren Kumari wrote on 23/11/2020 16:05: They are better than terrorbits, which is what happen when anyone in the family says "My Internet is broken, can you fix it?" best to approach incidents like this with gigglebits, e.g. the sort of response that accompanies replies like "you did WHAT??

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/23/20 18:14, Thomas Scott wrote: "Terrorbits" sounds like a 3 year old unplugging a router - over and over Because of dead wi-fi, or just for giggles :-)? Mark.

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Thomas Scott
"Terrorbits" sounds like a 3 year old unplugging a router - over and over until which point it then had to be relocated to a top shelf with a UPS. Telling this from a friend's experience, not my own. Promise. - Thomas Scott | mr.thomas.sc...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:09 AM Warren

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:22 AM Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > > > > On Nov 23, 2020, at 12:35 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > > >> 8tbps (8 terrabits per second). > > Terrabits? That’s a new one to me. Would that be akin to an “earthbit” or > something like that? They are better than terrorbits,

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
> On Nov 23, 2020, at 12:35 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > >> 8tbps (8 terrabits per second). Terrabits? That’s a new one to me. Would that be akin to an “earthbit” or something like that? -Andy

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Ah, okay. All good! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mark Tinka" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 8:17:58 AM Subjec

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/23/20 15:50, Mike Hammett wrote: I eagerly await a more substantive response. This is from a position of inquiry, not a position of combat. I'm new to the world of hardware that has those capabilities, so if there's something better, I'm all for hearing about it. What I meant was

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
M Josh Luthman >> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: >>> Got this message to me directly as well as through the list. >>> >>> @6x7 this list is *NOT* to be scrapped for email addresses for your >>> marketing purposes. This is complete garb

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mark Tinka" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 7:35:57 AM Subject: Re: A letter from the CEO On 11/23/20 14:40, Mike Hammett wrote: I've been looking at some deployment

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/23/20 14:40, Mike Hammett wrote: I've been looking at some deployments in areas with sketchy political forces and I was looking to use MACsec. How underwhelming :-)... Mark.

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/23/20 09:52, Carsten Bormann wrote: I know most people here don’t care (because they don’t have to(*), literally), but there are standards for these things, and there are reasons for the way that they have turned out to be. If you want to taste a little treatise from engineers who

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-23 Thread Mike Hammett
jamin PD Cannon" Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:14:14 PM Subject: Re: A letter from the CEO > Our key differentiator is that we encrypt our backbone links. care to give detail of the tech used? randy

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-22 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2020-11-23, at 08:09, William Herrin wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 10:37 PM Carsten Bormann wrote: >> On 2020-11-20, at 23:18, 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO >> wrote: >>> 8tbps (8 terrabits per second). >> I don’t expect the majority of nanog people to know the intended data rate

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-22 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 10:37 PM Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2020-11-20, at 23:18, 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO > wrote: > > 8tbps (8 terrabits per second). > I don’t expect the majority of nanog people to know the intended data rate > would properly be notated as 8 Tbit/s, but a space

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-22 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2020-11-20, at 23:18, 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO wrote: > > 8tbps (8 terrabits per second). Competence signaling: technical competence very low. I don’t expect the majority of nanog people to know the intended data rate would properly be notated as 8 Tbit/s, but a space after the

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-22 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 11/20/20 4:27 PM, Lady Benjamin PD Cannon wrote: Hi all, we never intended to spam the list, that was a total screw-up on our part, one I take full responsibility for.   A list of exclusions got included.   Please accept my sincere apologies. ... Again, sorry for including the list in our

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-22 Thread Randy Bush
> Our key differentiator is that we encrypt our backbone links. care to give detail of the tech used? randy

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-22 Thread Lady Benjamin PD Cannon
to be scrapped for email addresses for your >> marketing purposes. This is complete garbage. I'll be sending a message >> directly to k...@6by7.net <mailto:k...@6by7.net> as well. >> >> Josh Luthman >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 &

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/21/20 01:20, Mel Beckman wrote: I’m sure the implication that “safe, secure” refers to less susceptibility to eavesdropping. But of course fiber can still be tapped trivially with angle-of-incidence intercept taps. I think the implication was some measure of superiority compared to

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/21/20 01:06, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG wrote: > high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity More importantly, can someone tell me what 'safe global fiber connectivity' is?  As opposed to 'unsafe global fiber connectivity'? Do these guys have the market cornered on not

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-21 Thread Mark Tinka
a message directly to k...@6by7.net <mailto:k...@6by7.net> as well. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO mailto:b...@6by7.net>> wrote: /A

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Mel Beckman
Apparently, Ben didn’t use “safe and secure” fiber lines for his emails :) -mel > On Nov 20, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote: > > On 11/20/20 4:41 PM, Matt Erculiani wrote: >> Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on >> purpose. > > How does one

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Matt Erculiani said: > All mass-mail systems I'm aware of offer to scrape your own contacts when > you first sign up. Really? Mailchimp scrapes your contacts to spam as "opt-in"? If you can show that's true, then Mailchimp needs to be blocked as spammers. My experience with

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Matt Erculiani
> How does one /accidentally/ harvest email addresses and /accidentally/ > add them to a Mailchimp list and /accidentally/ send emails with full > header personalization? All mass-mail systems I'm aware of offer to scrape your own contacts when you first sign up. Anyone who has ever started or

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote: On 11/20/20 4:41 PM, Matt Erculiani wrote: Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on purpose. How does one /accidentally/ harvest email addresses and /accidentally/ add them to a Mailchimp list and /accidentally/

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Mike Lyon
It was also spammed to other lists as well... -Mike > On Nov 20, 2020, at 16:45, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote: > > On 11/20/20 4:41 PM, Matt Erculiani wrote: >> Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on >> purpose. > > How does one /accidentally/ harvest email

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 11/20/20 4:41 PM, Matt Erculiani wrote: Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on purpose. How does one /accidentally/ harvest email addresses and /accidentally/ add them to a Mailchimp list and /accidentally/ send emails with full header personalization?

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Matt Erculiani
All, Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on purpose. I'm sure she'll see this thread and fix it. Relax... -Matt On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 4:34 PM Peter Kristolaitis wrote: > On 2020-11-20 6:06 p.m., Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG wrote: > > > high speed, safe,

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
On 2020-11-20 6:06 p.m., Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG wrote: > high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity More importantly, can someone tell me what 'safe global fiber connectivity' is?  As opposed to 'unsafe global fiber connectivity'? Do these guys have the market cornered on not

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread TJ Trout
ll be sending a message >> directly to k...@6by7.net as well. >> >> Josh Luthman >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Mel Beckman
a message directly to k...@6by7.net<mailto:k...@6by7.net> as well. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO mailto:b...@6by7.net>> wrote: [X] A letter from

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
nding a message > directly to k...@6by7.net as well. > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO < > b...@6by7.net

Re: A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread Josh Luthman
-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO < b...@6by7.net> wrote: > > > *A letter from the CEO of 6x7: 6x7 Networks and Communications Authority > of Kenya announce type approval to import 8tbps/second interne

A letter from the CEO

2020-11-20 Thread 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin , CEO
** A letter from the CEO of 6x7: 6x7 Networks and Communications Authority of Kenya announce type approval to import 8tbps/second internet routers. Hi, Lady Benjamin from 6x7 here, and I'm proud to share with you an update on me