Re: Congestion/latency-aware routing for MPLS?

2023-10-18 Thread Jerry Jones
I remember some time back Juniper had a feature that would listen to snmp? from the radios and adjust ospf cost. My search foo is failing right now but I think they had a paper on the topic also. On Oct 18, 2023, at 6:13 AM, Adam Thompson wrote: Using a mix of Juniper hardware... Network

Re: Congestion/latency-aware routing for MPLS?

2023-10-18 Thread Ryan Hamel
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Re: Congestion/latency-aware routing for MPLS?

2023-10-18 Thread Mark Tees
In addition to RSVP or may be worth using minimum modulation settings on the radios if possible. IE so that links completely drop and you re-route rather than run with less bandwidth. On Wed, Oct 18, 2023, 6:34 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > I believe Jason's proposal is exactly what OP is looking

Re: Congestion/latency-aware routing for MPLS?

2023-10-18 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I believe Jason's proposal is exactly what OP is looking for. > I would agree. On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:28 AM Saku Ytti wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 at 17:39, Tom Beecher wrote: > > > Auto-bandwidth won't help here if the bandwidth reduction is 'silent' as > stated in the first

Re: Congestion/latency-aware routing for MPLS?

2023-10-18 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 at 17:39, Tom Beecher wrote: > Auto-bandwidth won't help here if the bandwidth reduction is 'silent' as > stated in the first message. A 1G interface , as far as RSVP is concerned, is > a 1G interface, even if radio interference across it means it's effectively a > 500M

Re: Congestion/latency-aware routing for MPLS?

2023-10-18 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 7:38 AM Tom Beecher wrote: > > Auto-bandwidth won't help here if the bandwidth reduction is 'silent' as > stated in the first message. A 1G interface , as far as RSVP is concerned, is > a 1G interface, even if radio interference across it means it's effectively a > 500M

Re: Congestion/latency-aware routing for MPLS?

2023-10-18 Thread Tom Beecher
Auto-bandwidth won't help here if the bandwidth reduction is 'silent' as stated in the first message. A 1G interface , as far as RSVP is concerned, is a 1G interface, even if radio interference across it means it's effectively a 500M link. Theoretically, you could have some sort of automation in

Re: Congestion/latency-aware routing for MPLS?

2023-10-18 Thread Dave Taht
We have been hoping to find use cases for the babel protocol's rtt metric, which builds on ideas from ntp, and is primarily used today in overlay networks: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-babel-rtt-extension/ On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 7:17 AM Jason R. Rokeach via NANOG wrote: > > Hi

Re: Congestion/latency-aware routing for MPLS?

2023-10-18 Thread Jason R. Rokeach via NANOG
Hi Adam, This sounds like a use case for MPLS-TE with TWAMP-Light. TWAMP-Light handles the latency concern and can encode your measured latency in IS-IS. Juniper docs: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/is-is/topics/topic-map/enable-link-delay-advertise-in-is-is.html.

Congestion/latency-aware routing for MPLS?

2023-10-18 Thread Adam Thompson
Using a mix of Juniper hardware... Network provides VPLS to customer, over MPLS (obviously) in a dual-redundant-ring radio topology. Each site is connected to one or more neighbors, generally with two radios, in two different bands, to *each* neighbor. So an ordinary node might have 4