Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-04-26 Thread Scott Morizot
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 12:19 PM John Curran wrote: > I provide all of the above in the spirit of maximal transparency, but > there are indeed some practical limits to what can be provided. The > community should know that there was no special deal – only a clarification > that the USG sought

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-04-26 Thread John Curran
On 26 Apr 2021, at 12:32 PM, John Curran mailto:jcur...@arin.net>> wrote: On 26 Apr 2021, at 11:27 AM, Scott Morizot mailto:tmori...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:19 AM Bryan Fields mailto:br...@bryanfields.net>> wrote: On 3/15/21 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > is it

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-04-26 Thread John Curran
On 26 Apr 2021, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Fields mailto:br...@bryanfields.net>> wrote: On 3/15/21 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: is it possible that the DoD: 1) signed a lRSA (or really just an RSA) Just re-read this; I don't think the Federal Government is required to sign the standard ARIN

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-04-26 Thread John Curran
On 26 Apr 2021, at 11:27 AM, Scott Morizot mailto:tmori...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:19 AM Bryan Fields mailto:br...@bryanfields.net>> wrote: On 3/15/21 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > is it possible that the DoD: > 1) signed a lRSA (or really just an RSA) Just

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-04-26 Thread Scott Morizot
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:19 AM Bryan Fields wrote: > On 3/15/21 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > is it possible that the DoD: > > 1) signed a lRSA (or really just an RSA) > > Just re-read this; I don't think the Federal Government is required to sign > the standard ARIN agreement. I

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-04-26 Thread Bryan Fields
On 3/15/21 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > is it possible that the DoD: > 1) signed a lRSA (or really just an RSA) Just re-read this; I don't think the Federal Government is required to sign the standard ARIN agreement. I believe they have a different agreement with ARIN. I did some

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-04-26 Thread Mike Hammett
cosmo" To: "Owen DeLong" Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" , "John Curran" Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 4:55:06 PM Subject: Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP Looks like the press picked this up. Paywalled though! https://www.washingto

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-04-25 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 3:01 AM Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 3:35 PM Mel Beckman wrote: >> I think one cause for concern is why “almost all DOD prefixes >> (7.0.0.0/8,11.0.0.0/8,22.0.0.0/8 and bunch of /22s) are now announced under >> AS8003 (GRSCORP) which was just

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-04-25 Thread cosmo
Looks like the press picked this up. Paywalled though! https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/24/pentagon-internet-address-mystery/ On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 3:03 AM Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > > On Mar 15, 2021, at 15:07 , Tom Beecher wrote: > > I think it’s a general matter of

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-16 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Mar 15, 2021, at 15:07 , Tom Beecher wrote: > > I think it’s a general matter of public interest how this reassignment of a > massive government-owned block of well over sixteen million IP addresses > happened. Even if not fraudulent, the public has a right to know who is > behind this

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I think it’s a general matter of public interest how this reassignment of > a massive government-owned block of well over sixteen million IP addresses > happened. Even if not fraudulent, the public has a right to know who is > behind this huge transfer of wealth. > > Don’t you? > I wasn't

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread Joe Provo
Considering threads about DOD address squatters, it would be a useful beaconing-and-cleaning project before putting to market. I guess it'd be north of $10B and even for the USG that's not small potatos... -- Posted from my personal account - see X-Disclaimer header. Joe Provo / Gweep /

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread Mel Beckman
John, I do understand the technical difference between assignment and routing. But this is such a big routing shift that naturally questions arise, especially given that this space owner has stewardship requirements answerable to US citizens. I get it: by the letter of ARIN law, this looks

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread John Curran
On 15 Mar 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: > > Like any other announcement, except DOD and what looks suspiciously like a > shell corporation. Either the DOD doesn’t know about it (and I’ve called DISA > and opened a ticket), which is scary, or the DOD is creating a private shell >

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread Mel Beckman
Like any other announcement, except DOD and what looks suspiciously like a shell corporation. Either the DOD doesn’t know about it (and I’ve called DISA and opened a ticket), which is scary, or the DOD is creating a private shell corporation to move all it’s IP space out of government purview,

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 4:04 PM Mel Beckman wrote: > > As I said, “DOD Network Information Center”: > > Source Registry ARIN Kind Org Full Name DoD Network Information Center Handle > DNIC Address 3990 E. Broad Street Columbus OH 43218 United States Roles > Registrant Last Changed Wed, 17 Aug

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread Mel Beckman
As I said, “DOD Network Information Center”: Source Registry ARIN Kind Org Full Name DoD Network Information Center Handle DNIC Address 3990 E. Broad Street Columbus OH 43218 United States Roles Registrant Last Changed Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:45:37

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 3:38 PM Mel Beckman wrote: > > I also note that this reassignment isn’t reflected in ARIN’s Whois database. where is it reflected? > > -mel > > On Mar 15, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: > >  Owen, > > I think one cause for concern is why “almost all DOD

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread Mel Beckman
I also note that this reassignment isn’t reflected in ARIN’s Whois database. -mel On Mar 15, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:  Owen, I think one cause for concern is why “almost all DOD prefixes (7.0.0.0/8,11.0.0.0/8,22.0.0.0/8 and bunch of

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread Mel Beckman
Owen, I think one cause for concern is why “almost all DOD prefixes (7.0.0.0/8,11.0.0.0/8,22.0.0.0/8 and bunch of /22s) are now announced under AS8003 (GRSCORP) which was just formed a few months ago,” which, according to ARIN WHOIS, had a source

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-15 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
According to the timeline posted to this list (by you, Siyuan), Globl Resource Systems, LLC was registered in Delaware on September 8, 2020. Your timeline also shows the resources being issued to GRS by ARIN on September 11, september 14, 2020 It looks to me like they subsequently registered the

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-12 Thread Tom Beecher
> > However, it appears that a Certificate of Good Standing is not required or > ARIN didn't validate it in this case. > You don't know what ARIN did or did not do, or really anything about the circumstances surrounding this other than what is gleanable from public records. It's not a good look

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-12 Thread Siyuan Miao
Hi Nick, M0601699 was closed in 2006 according to Sunbiz (FL's official website):

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-12 Thread Nick Hilliard
Siyuan Miao wrote on 12/03/2021 11:34: My biggest concern is why the AS8003 was assigned to the company (GLOBAL RESOURCE SYSTEMS, LLC) even before its existence. GRS LLC seems to have been around since 2006. https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_fl/M0601699 AS8003 was registered to

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-12 Thread John Curran
On 12 Mar 2021, at 6:34 AM, Siyuan Miao mailto:avel...@misaka.io>> wrote: Hi John, My biggest concern is why the AS8003 was assigned to the company (GLOBAL RESOURCE SYSTEMS, LLC) even before its existence. When we were requesting resources or transfers, ARIN always asked us to provide a

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-12 Thread Siyuan Miao
Hi John, My biggest concern is why the AS8003 was assigned to the company (GLOBAL RESOURCE SYSTEMS, LLC) even before its existence. When we were requesting resources or transfers, ARIN always asked us to provide a Certificate of Good Standing and we had to pay the state to order it. However, it

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-12 Thread John Curran
On 11 Mar 2021, at 7:56 AM, Siyuan Miao mailto:avel...@misaka.io>> wrote: Hi Folks, Just noticed that almost all DOD prefixes (7.0.0.0/8,11.0.0.0/8,22.0.0.0/8 and bunch of /22s) are now announced under AS8003 (GRSCORP) which was just formed a few

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-11 Thread Siyuan Miao
So this company (Global Resource Systems, LLC) was formed on 2020-10-13 and ARIN assigned AS8003 to them even earlier than it. Here's a simple timeline in case anyone want to have a check: 9/8/2020 GLOBAL RESOURCE SYSTEMS, LLC registered in Delaware 9/10/2020 Nameserver of grscorp.com was

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-11 Thread Alain Hebert
    I scratch it out to hiding in plain sight... - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 On 3/11/21 9:14 AM, Filip

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-11 Thread Filip Hruska
Contacted HE NOC earlier regarding these announcements, they are "legitimate". Filip On 11/03/2021 14:56, Javier Henderson wrote: On Mar 11, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Eric Dugas via NANOG wrote: I would be really curious to see the LOA presented to AS6939 to announce 54 million IPs out of

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-11 Thread Javier Henderson
> On Mar 11, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Eric Dugas via NANOG wrote: > > I would be really curious to see the LOA presented to AS6939 to announce 54 > million IPs out of government IP space and what type of verification was done > because it doesn't seem legit at all. Did you try calling the number

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-11 Thread Eric Dugas via NANOG
Single-homed on AS6939, no website setup on gsrcorp.com. (gsrcorp.com) The address listed is in Plantation, PL and shows is a typical commercial office building. You can even get virtual office address here: https://www.davincivirtual.com/loc/us/florida/plantation-virtual-offices/facility-2492

DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

2021-03-11 Thread Siyuan Miao
Hi Folks, Just noticed that almost all DOD prefixes (7.0.0.0/8,11.0.0.0/8,22.0.0.0/8 and bunch of /22s) are now announced under AS8003 (GRSCORP) which was just formed a few months ago. It looks so suspicious. Does anyone know if it's authorized? Regards, Siyuan