On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 2:04 PM Jason Bothe via NANOG
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> KMZs or no business. Period.
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You can say that in US, EU but you won't be able to in certain places
unless you are willing to take the extra mile and work with people.
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> From: "Steve Naslund" mailto:snasl...@medline.com>>
> To: nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 11:33:43 AM
> Subject: RE: How to choose a transport(terrest
This was a product available from the earliest Bell System days. You could
specify a couple of options. One is local path redundancy or diversity -
intended to get you to another central office and not use the same cable as
another specified circuit. A second option is called avoidance where
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 22:17, Tom Beecher wrote:
> You can mitigate some of that by getting contract language in place that says
> a carrier must maintain the circuit on the specified and agreed pathway, and
> if it's later discovered that it has been moved, you don't pay for the
> circuit
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> All true but it is becoming increasingly difficult to determine if a
> provider is using another providers infrastructure (all are at some
> level). For example, in the
: "Steve Naslund"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 11:33:43 AM
Subject: RE: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
All true but it is becoming increasingly difficult to determine if a provider
is using another providers infrastructure (all are at
All true but it is becoming increasingly difficult to determine if a provider
is using another providers infrastructure (all are at some level). For
example, in the SIP world there are several national level carriers that are
using Level 3s core SIP network and if you were not aware of that
I'm of the opinion that, if you need resiliency, you should order
explicitly diverse circuits from a primary provider and then a secondary
circuit from a second vendor.
Ultimately, If you want contractually-enforced physical diversity then
the best options will be single-vendor solutions:
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 2:51:38 PM
Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
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How do we choose the best transport?
One question, how much people care about vendor diversity? I do and did care. I
don’t want to put all m
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:12 PM
> To: Mehmet Akcin
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
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> If people start spot-checking this stuff more regularly, perhaps the
> companies being
, December 19, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Mehmet Akcin
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
If people start spot-checking this stuff more regularly, perhaps the companies
being verified will take delivering the correct product the first time more
seriously.
Some
: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 7:17 PM
To: James Breeden
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
That's a great example. Thank you James for sharing. I have done so many
"GROUND TRUTH" visits where randomly selected certain physical points to
validat
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Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
On 12/17/18 3:51 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
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> One question, how much people care about vendor diversity? I do and did
> care. I don’t want to put all my eggs in one basket. Do you care? Thank you
There are advanta
On 12/17/18 3:51 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
One question, how much people care about vendor diversity? I do and did
care. I don’t want to put all my eggs in one basket. Do you care? Thank you
There are advantages and disadvantages to vendor diversity.
As advantages, you won't be subject to
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Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
Mike have you looked at Packetlight? Long-haul is mostly jumping to 100 or even
400g coherent.
-Ben
On Dec 15, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote:
FS had one, but it
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> From: "Luke Guillory"
> To: "Mike Hammett"
> Cc: "Eric Dugas" , "nanog"
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:52:19 AM
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:52:19 AM
Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
No cost affective 10x10G to 100G muxponder?
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On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:46 AM, Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote:
heh, cross connects are indeed a m
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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:42:53 AM
Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/sub
On 15/Dec/18 12:44, Mike Hammett wrote:
> heh, cross connects are indeed a major issue. I have a need for > 10G
> transport. My equipment supports 40G. The carriers aren't terribly
> interested in doing 40G transport (at least not at a reasonable price,
> one quote was over 4x a 10G).
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- Original Message -
From: "Eric Dugas"
To: "Mehmet Akcin"
Cc: "nanog"
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:42:53 AM
Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
I also lo
I also look at hand-off locations (as long as it doesn't compromise the overall
robustness of the design).
Most providers will be able to hand-off in the BMMR of a carrier hotel and some
will have the flexibility to hand-off in particular suites within the same
building or other locations near
Thank you everyone incredible amounts of responses for my how to choose a
transit provider smail earlier.
How do you choose transport & backbone?
Looking at key aspects like route information, diversity, aerial vs under
ground fiber, age of fiber, outage history, length, but what else?
I will
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