Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-27 Thread Scott Weeks
--- > North America is by far the leader in number of IPv6 enabled customers On the top ten country list, I see 6 European countries (Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg, Estonia, France, Norway) 1 African country (Liberia) 1 North American country (USA) 1 Oceanian country

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-27 Thread Bjørn Mork
Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > North America is by far the leader in number of IPv6 enabled customers > which > > https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/trends-visualizations-ipv6-adoption-ipv4-exhaustion-global-heat-map-network-country-growth-data.html#networks > > shows. On the

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-26 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 26 Dec 2015, Mark Tinka wrote: One network in southern Africa have upgraded 70% of their network to 4G as part of an enhancement exercise in the last 16x months, and provide 98% 3G coverage across their country of operation. But not a peep re: IPv6. Out of the 34 major mobile

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On 26/Dec/15 09:38, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > > I guess there are major differences across the continent as to what > network gear is used, but I know some operators who shipped their 10 > year old 2G basestations to African providers, and if these are still > in use, potentially even

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-26 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 26 Dec 2015, Mark Tinka wrote: None of the major mobile carriers in eastern, western, central and southern Africa have done anything IPv6-related on their network that I am aware about. The availability of IPv4 space in the AFRINIC region, coupled with the ease of spending millions on

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-25 Thread Ca By
On Friday, December 25, 2015, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 22/Dec/15 14:45, Ca By wrote: > > > > At least in mobile, the change to ipv6 has been quick and the pace is > > increasing -- not just on ipv6 deployment but also on ipv4 shutdown. I > know > > many people liken ipv6

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On 22/Dec/15 14:45, Ca By wrote: > > At least in mobile, the change to ipv6 has been quick and the pace is > increasing -- not just on ipv6 deployment but also on ipv4 shutdown. I know > many people liken ipv6 to "the boy who cried wolf", so be it, the > data shows the ipv6 wolf is here. Or

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-24 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 25 Dec 2015, Mark Tinka wrote: It would be nice to hear about Europe, the Middle East Latin America and Canada as well, if anyone has any stories. I know of at least one mobile provider in Sweden, Finland and Germany that have IPv6 enabled for at least part of their device base.

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-22 Thread Owen DeLong
Yet until Apple gets to that IPv6-only stage, you’re refusing to support IPv6 for those of us that need it today even while we still need IPv4, too. Owen > On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:08 , Ca By wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, Owen DeLong

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-22 Thread Andrew Kirch
I wonder if Tmobile realizes that when you sign up for a contract with them using one of their phones as a wifi hotspot, the address of their enterprise NAT is what's recorded by their form. They even make you check a button to accept their lack of security. Not that that could result in massive

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-22 Thread Owen DeLong
Does this mean you are negligent for not supporting IPv6 on my phone on your network? My phone is perfectly capable of IPv6, yet because it doesn’t support your particular religion about IPv4 translation, you refuse to support IPv6 on it. When is T-Mobile going to fix their IPv6 implementation

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-22 Thread Ca By
On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, Owen DeLong wrote: > Does this mean you are negligent for not supporting IPv6 on my phone on > your network? > > My phone is perfectly capable of IPv6, yet because it doesn’t support your > particular religion > about IPv4 translation, you refuse

IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-22 Thread Ca By
TL;DR version: the data shows you are negligent if your eyeball content (cdn, cloud, ...) does not support native ipv6. With the NAT and IPv4 leasing threads lingering on, i figured it was time for an update on how the other half live More than 1/3 of North America mobile traffic to the top

Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile

2015-12-22 Thread Lee Howard
On 12/22/15, 1:13 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Owen DeLong" wrote: >Yet until Apple gets to that IPv6-only stage, you¹re refusing to support >IPv6 for those of us >that need it today even while we still need IPv4, too. > >Owen Owen, you¹re out