Ricky Beamwrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:32:19 -0400, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:
You can blame the religious zealots that insisted that everything DHCP
does has to also be done via RA's.
I blame the anti-DHCP crowd for a lot of things. RAs are just dumb.
There's a reason IPv4 can do
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 07:59:14AM +0200, Tore Anderson wrote:
* Owen DeLong o...@delong.com
On Jul 15, 2015, at 08:57 , Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote:
This is only true for dual-stacked networks. I just tried to set up
an IPv6-only WiFi network at my house recently, and it
On Fri 2015-Jul-17 12:36:51 -0400, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 07:59:14AM +0200, Tore Anderson wrote:
* Owen DeLong o...@delong.com
On Jul 15, 2015, at 08:57 , Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote:
This is only true for dual-stacked networks. I just
On Thu 2015-Jul-16 12:32:19 +1000, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:
--snip--
You can blame the religious zealots that insisted that everything
DHCP does has to also be done via RA's. This means that everyone
has to implement everything twice. Something Google should have
realised when they
On 07/15/2015 07:32 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
None of which is the fault of the protocol. Blame the equipement vendors
for being negligent.
I'm sorry, it is just me? Or is the issue before us to fix the PROBLEM
and not fix the BLAME? Pointing fingers isn't going to help get us to
widespread
* Owen DeLong o...@delong.com
On Jul 15, 2015, at 08:57 , Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote:
This is only true for dual-stacked networks. I just tried to set up
an IPv6-only WiFi network at my house recently, and it was a total
fail due to non-implementation of relatively new
On Jul 15, 2015, at 19:32 , Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:
In message 55a682e6.1050...@matthew.at, Matthew Kaufman writes:
On 7/14/2015 11:22 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
Yet I can take a Windows XP box. Tell it to enable IPv6 and it
just works. Everything that a node needed existed
On Jul 15, 2015, at 22:46 , Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote:
On 7/15/15 7:32 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
Go to any business with hardware that is 3-5 years old in its IT
infrastructure and devices ranging from PCs running XP to the random
consumer gear people bring in
. That is a no go for dynamic
networks of any sort.
Cheers Oorspronkelijk bericht Van: Owen DeLong
o...@delong.com Datum: 16-07-2015 08:51 (GMT+01:00) Aan: Mark Andrews
ma...@isc.org Cc: nanog@nanog.org Onderwerp: Re: Remember
Internet-In-A-Box?
On Jul 15, 2015, at 19:32 , Mark
DeLong o...@delong.com
Datum: 16-07-2015 08:51 (GMT+01:00)
Aan: Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Onderwerp: Re: Remember Internet-In-A-Box?
On Jul 15, 2015, at 19:32 , Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:
In message 55a682e6.1050...@matthew.at, Matthew Kaufman writes
In message 20150716060336.ga4...@bamboo.slabnet.com, Hugo Slabbert writes:
--snip--
You can blame the religious zealots that insisted that everything
DHCP does has to also be done via RA's. This means that everyone
has to implement everything twice. Something Google should have
realised
On Thu 2015-Jul-16 21:19:54 +1000, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:
In message 20150716060336.ga4...@bamboo.slabnet.com, Hugo Slabbert writes:
--snip--
You can blame the religious zealots that insisted that everything
DHCP does has to also be done via RA's. This means that everyone
has to
Internet in a box.
Wasn't that the Japanese thing with the Woody Woodpecker logo and the
(translated) English text: Touch Woody, the Internet pecker?
Didn't go over to well in English speaking parts as I recall ...
But it eventually evolved into ChatRoulette.
--
Dave Pooser
Internet in a box.
Wasn't that the Japanese thing with the Woody Woodpecker logo and the
(translated) English text: Touch Woody, the Internet pecker?
Didn't go over to well in English speaking parts as I recall ...
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:32:19 -0400, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:
You can blame the religious zealots that insisted that everything
DHCP does has to also be done via RA's.
I blame the anti-DHCP crowd for a lot of things. RAs are just dumb.
There's a reason IPv4 can do *everything*
On 7/15/15 7:32 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
Go to any business with hardware that is 3-5 years old in its IT
infrastructure and devices ranging from PCs running XP to the random
consumer gear people bring in (cameras, printers, tablets, etc.) and see
how easy it is to get everything talking on
In message 55a682e6.1050...@matthew.at, Matthew Kaufman writes:
On 7/14/2015 11:22 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
Yet I can take a Windows XP box. Tell it to enable IPv6 and it
just works. Everything that a node needed existed when Windows XP
was released. The last 15 years has been waiting
Mark is right and I couldn't agree more with him.
On 15/07/15 08:22, Mark Andrews wrote:
Yet I can take a Windows XP box. Tell it to enable IPv6 and it
just works. Everything that a node needed existed when Windows XP
was released. The last 15 years has been waiting for ISP's and CPE
In message 55a5b526.8030...@alter3d.ca, Peter Kristolaitis writes:
On 7/14/2015 8:02 PM, Mike wrote:
The flame wars and vitrol and rhetoric is too much noise for me to
derive anything useful from. Someone needs to stand up and lead. I
will happily follow.
Too much noise has been v6's
On 15 July 2015 at 02:02, Mike mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com wrote:
I am a small provider with a 16 bit asn, a /20 and a /22 of ipv4 and a /32
of v6, but no clue yet how to get from where I am today to where we all
should be. The flame wars and vitrol and rhetoric is too much noise for me
to
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 04:27:08PM +0300, John Kinsella wrote:
On 7/15/15 1:28 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
You can't be a dummy and a service provider...
oh? :)
Counterexample: Cox. They refuse to even admit to me that they are even
considering IPV6.
--
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
On 7/14/2015 11:22 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
Yet I can take a Windows XP box. Tell it to enable IPv6 and it
just works. Everything that a node needed existed when Windows XP
was released. The last 15 years has been waiting for ISP's and CPE
vendors to deliver IPv6 as a product. This is not to
On 7/15/15 1:28 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
You can't be a dummy and a service provider...
oh? :)
Did you deploy Mikrotik routers by any chance?
-mel beckman
On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:29 AM, Baldur Norddahl baldur.nordd...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 15 July 2015 at 02:02, Mike mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com wrote:
I am a small provider with a 16 bit asn, a /20 and a /22 of ipv4 and a /32
of
I google¹d ³IPv6 for Dummies² and found this:
https://www.wesecure.nl/upload/documents/tinymce/IPv6.pdf
It¹s licensed from the For Dummies series, written and published by
Infoblox.
more below. . .
On 7/14/15, 8:02 PM, NANOG on behalf of Mike nanog-boun...@nanog.org on
behalf of
On Jul 15, 2015, at 08:57 , Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote:
On 7/14/2015 11:22 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
Yet I can take a Windows XP box. Tell it to enable IPv6 and it
just works. Everything that a node needed existed when Windows XP
was released. The last 15 years has been
On 7/15/15, 11:57 AM, NANOG on behalf of Matthew Kaufman
nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of matt...@matthew.at wrote:
Go to any business with hardware that is 3-5 years old in its IT
infrastructure and devices ranging from PCs running XP to the random
consumer gear people bring in (cameras,
In Japan, they had that on a CD in 1994, just after the law changed.
Lines snaked across the floor at Interop in the huge new Makuhari Messe
conference center in Chiba.
-jsq
Stephen Satchell wrote:
This goes back a number of years. There was a product that literally
was a cardboard box
On 7/14/2015 8:02 PM, Mike wrote:
The flame wars and vitrol and rhetoric is too much noise for me to
derive anything useful from. Someone needs to stand up and lead. I
will happily follow.
Too much noise has been v6's problem from the start. Every time I've
looked at v6 for use in the
On Jul 14, 2015, at 4:46 PM, Stephen Satchell l...@satchell.net wrote:
This goes back a number of years. There was a product that literally was a
cardboard box that contained everything one needed to get started on the
Internet. Just add a modem and a computer, and you were on your way.
Mike,
I agree that something like that needs to be done. Maybe I’ll do it. In the
meantime, have you got an IPv6 lab set up? I’m guessing that with your /32
allocation in hand, you likely do. Have you run through HE.net’s excellent
personal IPv6 certification program? Until you gain fluency
On 07/14/2015 04:46 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote:
This goes back a number of years. There was a product that literally
was a cardboard box that contained everything one needed to get
started on the Internet. Just add a modem and a computer, and you
were on your way. No fuss, no learning
On Jul 14, 2015, at 4:46 PM, Stephen Satchell l...@satchell.net wrote:
This goes back a number of years. There was a product that literally was a
cardboard box that contained everything one needed to get started on the
Internet. Just add a modem and a computer, and you were on your way.
This stuff has been consumerized. If you walk into any vzw store you can for
$99 and $60 a month no contract walk out with a mifi with v6. You don't even
have to ask, or configure anything, pretty much as it should be, the consumer
wants internet, Facebook email, and all the upper layer
Stephen Satchell wrote:
This goes back a number of years. There was a product that literally
was a cardboard box that contained everything one needed to get
started on the Internet. Just add a modem and a computer, and you
were on your way. No fuss, no learning curve.
I'm beginning to
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Stephen Satchell l...@satchell.net wrote:
This goes back a number of years. There was a product that literally was a
cardboard box that contained everything one needed to get started on the
Internet. Just add a modem and a computer, and you were on your way.
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