RES: Software For Telcos

2011-01-04 Thread Takashi Tome
Hi Jacob, Generally, top telcos use software made by top telco's software vendors... of course :-) Say in other words, top telco's equipment vendors have their own sw team or third-party suppliers. Equipment vendors are Alcatel, Lucent (ex-ATT), Ericsson, Nokia, etc. You can see at those

Re: Software For Telcos

2011-01-04 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
What I've seen in my experience is mostly custom-developed software, sometimes developed in-house, sometimes outsourced and sometimes both. I don't know of many off-the-shelf packages out there. There are of course many vertical off-the-shelf apps. For example: billing systems, network

How many legitimate cases when Origin AS in BGP announcement changed by another AS?

2011-01-04 Thread Akmal Shahbaz
Hi I am looking for example routing policies when any AS receiving BGP advertisement changes Origin AS in BGP AS set attribute to remove the received AS number and puts its own AS number.[legitimate cases] 1. customer AS advertises the prefix however provider AS announce the aggregate(super

Re: RES: Software For Telcos

2011-01-04 Thread Randy Bush
Generally, top telcos use software made by top telco's software vendors... of course :-) in my miniscule experience, they have large masses of engineers with unrequited NIH and roll their own as much as possible. after all, who could make something suitable for their oh so special needs.

RES: RES: Software For Telcos

2011-01-04 Thread Takashi Tome
HAHA! Good joke! That was true some 30 years ago... Actually, I think the problem is quite different. Big telco's network is a very complex thing - well, you all can say, Internet is too... But if we see some similar business like aircraft-defense and professional video market, we see some

contact request

2011-01-04 Thread Geo.
Does anyone have a contact for ATT Network operations that handles or can help with the Cleveland Ohio area ATT network? George Roettger Netlink Services

Re: RES: RES: Software For Telcos

2011-01-04 Thread Daryl G. Jurbala
On Jan 4, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Takashi Tome wrote: [snip] Put in other words, software knowledge is not enough, you must have a deep understanding of that business and the history of the system itself... [snip] This is the case 100% of the time, regardless of how many top developers/coders

Re: sudden low spam levels?

2011-01-04 Thread William Allen Simpson
On 1/3/11 6:42 PM, Jay Farrell wrote: I noticed a substantial drop in spam in my gmail account in recent days, from several hundred a day to maybe a hundred. Ironically, gmail filtered this thread to my spam folder. Yes, I found these messages my gmail spam today, too. Lately, gmail has been

Re: Software For Telcos

2011-01-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:04:14 PST, jacob miller said: The tracking of Customer circuits to ensure that from marketing, sales, accounts and technical department everything to do with the circuits has to be tracked. Reading the NANOG archives will find enough examples of top telcos that *never*

Re: RES: RES: Software For Telcos

2011-01-04 Thread Cat Okita
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Takashi Tome wrote: That was true some 30 years ago... That's still true today. There's an insane amount of in-house stuff still kicking around, for various reasons, some reasonable, some not so much. Actually, I think the problem is quite different. Big telco's network

Re: How many legitimate cases when Origin AS in BGP announcement changed by another AS?

2011-01-04 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 04:38:19AM -0800, Akmal Shahbaz akmal_shah...@yahoo.com wrote a message of 443 lines which said: I am looking for example routing policies when any AS receiving BGP advertisement changes Origin AS in BGP AS set attribute to remove the received AS number and puts its

Re: How many legitimate cases when Origin AS in BGP announcement changed by another AS?

2011-01-04 Thread Akmal Shahbaz
When the old origin AS was a private one? NO.Even when old origin AS is not private one. Don't you think private/pubic AS won't matter in case of provider aggregation? Thanks Akmal --- On Tue, 1/4/11, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote: From: Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr

Re: How many legitimate cases when Origin AS in BGP announcement changed by another AS?

2011-01-04 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 08:22:35AM -0800, Akmal Shahbaz akmal_shah...@yahoo.com wrote a message of 44 lines which said: When the old origin AS was a private one? NO.Even when old origin AS is not private one. You misunderstood me. I replied to your query When is it legitimate to change an

Re: 2010 IPv4 (and IPv6) Address Use Report

2011-01-04 Thread Richard Barnes
Also, for a slightly more average-person-friendly view, see Iljitsch's article in Ars Technica: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/01/2010-in-ip-addresses-225-million-down-496-million-to-go.ars On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.com wrote: [

Re: sudden low spam levels?

2011-01-04 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/4/11 7:10 AM, William Allen Simpson wrote: On 1/3/11 6:42 PM, Jay Farrell wrote: I noticed a substantial drop in spam in my gmail account in recent days, from several hundred a day to maybe a hundred. Ironically, gmail filtered this thread to my spam folder. Yes, I found these messages

Re: 2010 IPv4 (and IPv6) Address Use Report

2011-01-04 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 4 jan 2011, at 17:30, Richard Barnes wrote: Also, for a slightly more average-person-friendly view, see Iljitsch's article in Ars Technica: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/01/2010-in-ip-addresses-225-million-down-496-million-to-go.ars I would never dare call NANOG members

Re: sudden low spam levels?

2011-01-04 Thread Danijel
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 18:10, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: Not being a gmail user this may be a stupid question: can't you whitelist things in gmail? The ratio of spam/ham on NANOG is pretty good. Yes, you can, done it a while ago as some messages were going to spam for me also,

Re: 2010 IPv4 (and IPv6) Address Use Report

2011-01-04 Thread Richard Barnes
Certainly not. I was thinking more if people wanted something to pass on to management, marketing, mother, etc --Richard On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.com wrote: On 4 jan 2011, at 17:30, Richard Barnes wrote: Also, for a slightly more

Re: RES: Software For Telcos

2011-01-04 Thread Scott Weeks
-Mensagem original- De: jacob miller [mailto:mmzi...@yahoo.com] I have been wondering what type of Software do top telcos use. The tracking of Customer circuits to ensure that from marketing,sales,accounts and technical department everything to do with the circuits has to be

[NANOG-announce] Reminder: NANOG 51 registration fees change from the standard fee to the late fee on 01/08/2010

2011-01-04 Thread David Meyer
Register now! See you in Miami. Dave (for the NANOG PC) ___ NANOG-announce mailing list nanog-annou...@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

Verizon DSL Transport Contact?

2011-01-04 Thread nanog
Hello NANOG, Excuse me if I've missed something, but I cannot seem to get to the proper Verizon tech to get this corrected. We're an ISP in Erie, PA who leases Verizon DSL service. Verizon then drops this service on an ATM PVC on a DS3 that we terminate into our own gear. The current problem

Experiences with Comcast Ethernet

2011-01-04 Thread Dylan Ebner
My company has about 2 dozen Comcast business cable accounts at satellite offices around the Midwest. We are looking at adding an additional ISP to the mix and we are thinking of purchasing an Ethernet circuit from Comcast in an attempt to increase performance on those connections by keeping

RE: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet

2011-01-04 Thread David Hubbard
With the way their peering is these days, that probably would result in a huge improvement; we have complaints all over the northeast from comcast users who are getting poor connectivity to websites we host as a result of the overloaded Comcast-Level3 links and nothing we can do about it even

RE: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet

2011-01-04 Thread Dylan Ebner
That is what we see too. Our connections are used 24/7 and we need lots of download speed so the price/performance is great. Except between 9pm and 1am when the links are saturated. Dylan Ebner, Network Engineer Consulting Radiologists, Ltd. 1221 Nicollet Mall, Minneapolis, MN 55403 ph.

Re: sudden low spam levels?

2011-01-04 Thread Philip Dorr
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Danijel theghost...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 18:10, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: Not being a gmail user this may be a stupid question: can't you whitelist things in gmail? The ratio of spam/ham on NANOG is pretty good. Yes, you

Re: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet

2011-01-04 Thread Brent Jones
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Dylan Ebner dylan.eb...@crlmed.com wrote: My company has about 2 dozen Comcast business cable accounts at satellite offices around the Midwest. We are looking at adding an additional ISP to the mix and we are thinking of purchasing an Ethernet circuit from

Re: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet

2011-01-04 Thread Bret Clark
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Dylan Ebnerdylan.eb...@crlmed.com wrote: My company has about 2 dozen Comcast business cable accounts at satellite offices around the Midwest. We are looking at adding an additional ISP to the mix and we are thinking of purchasing an Ethernet circuit from

Re: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet

2011-01-04 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Brent Jones wrote: Note, Comcast Ethernet runs on their fiber network, which sometimes uses aerial lines, I've heard of others having some disconnects when poles get hit and stuff. That's not really specific to Comcast. Aerial fiber runs are very common in many places,

online backup software vendor

2011-01-04 Thread Richard Zheng
Hi, We are looking at providing backup services for our customers. It should have software running on our servers with SAN attached to it and client software running on windows or mac. Anyone knows some good vendors? Thanks! Richard

RE: online backup software vendor

2011-01-04 Thread Welch, Bryan
Should look at Commvault cloud services solution. We run it here internally and like them very much. Bryan -Original Message- From: Richard Zheng [mailto:rzh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:02 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: online backup software vendor Hi, We are

RE: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Is anyone on the list from the FAA? I am trying to find out if we can connect to the ASDI servers via IPv6. Cheers Ryan

Re: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Is anyone on the list from the FAA?  I am trying to find out if we can connect to the ASDI servers via IPv6. vacuum tubes don't do ipv6.

RE: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Very true but why the reference to vacuum tubes? -Original Message- From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:32 PM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: FAA - ASDI servers On

Re: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Very true but why the reference to vacuum tubes? sadly it was an FAA computer system joke. -Original Message- From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On Behalf

RE: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Menerick, John
Every joke has a bit of truth. For instance, until recently (last 10 years?), O'hare's traffic controllers relied upon vacuum tube technology to perform their job. From: Christopher Morrow [morrowc.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:49

Re: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Menerick, John jmener...@netsuite.com wrote: Every joke has a bit of truth.  For instance, until recently (last 10 years?), O'hare's traffic controllers relied upon vacuum tube technology to perform their job. yea, I was really referring to the ATC part of

Re: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:49:34 -0500 From: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Very true but why the reference to vacuum tubes? sadly it was an FAA computer system joke. But, since the F

Re: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet

2011-01-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Dylan Ebner dylan.eb...@crlmed.com wrote: My company has about 2 dozen Comcast business cable accounts at satellite offices around the Midwest. We are looking at adding an additional ISP to the mix and we are thinking of purchasing an you are looking at an

NIST IPv6 document

2011-01-04 Thread Kevin Oberman
NIST has released SP800-119, Guidelines for the Secure Deployment of IPv6. While I don't agree with everything in it, it is an excellent overview of IPv6, differences from IPv4, and security advice. While the title sounds like a security document, the security implications are only a part of it.

RE: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Yes I did read the VPN document before posting to the group but it does not give any IP address information and the e-mail address within the document is bouncing. -Original Message- From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Christopher

Re: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Owen DeLong
Most controllers still do. I haven't seen any flat-panel displays yet in any of the ARTCCs, TRACONs, or Towers I've visited. Admittedly, it's been a couple of years, so, they might have changed, but, I tend to doubt they've changed all those displays that quickly. Owen On Jan 4, 2011, at 7:50

Re: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Michael DeMan
Is that the FFA or the FAA? On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Can they simply extend the mandate? We need to setup new connectivity to the FFA and was hoping to go IPv6 right out of the gate. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Kevin Oberman

Re: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Adam Leff
The new Potomac Consolidated TRACON in Warrenton, VA is relatively new and has the newer equipment with flat-screen scopes, touch-screen radio/phone controls, etc. It is an impressive facility. Adam On Jan 4, 2011, at 23:56, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Most controllers still do. I

Re: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Merike Kaeo
I've pinged someone offline who may have a contact. Will let you know offline if I do and connect you. I had some peripheral insight a few years ago when I did some work with Boeing. Even had a hand at editing some ARINC standards. The airline industry was umminteresting :) Suffice

Re: NIST IPv6 document

2011-01-04 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote: The PDF is available at: I notice that this document, in its nearly 200 pages, makes only casual mention of ARP/NDP table overflow attacks, which may be among the first real DoS challenges production IPv6 networks, and

Re: FAA - ASDI servers

2011-01-04 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Menerick, John jmener...@netsuite.com wrote: Every joke has a bit of truth. For instance, until recently (last 10 years?), O'hare's traffic controllers relied upon vacuum tube technology to perform

Re: [Nanog-futures] an alternate proposal for NewNOG's membership structure

2011-01-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- s...@labrats.us wrote: From: Sean Figgins s...@labrats.us Students already get a discount to the meetings, so they will not get an additional membership discount, especially if they are getting a discount membership. -

Re: [Nanog-futures] an alternate proposal for NewNOG's membership structure

2011-01-04 Thread Randy Bush
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/attending/wavingfee/studentreg.php doesn't indicate that they need to be full time, so I guess they just have to be a college or university student. Period. Yes? why only university? wazza matter with the younger set? i have worked with some bitchin' good 15