Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net

2023-06-16 Thread David Conrad
On Jun 15, 2023, at 10:51 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote: >> At some point, somebody's going to want to do something with the old /24. > You are correct that we did not state we will or will not be returning > the address block we have back to ARIN. We do not plan on returning it > for precisely the

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Delong.com via NANOG
I went over often enough that it was easier (and cheaper) to just give them an extra $30/month for unlimited. I also cancelled other Comcast services at the same time that were costing me more than $30/month, so for me, It was a net gain and for Comcast, a net loss. I did this immediately when

Shaw peering contact

2023-06-16 Thread Chris McDonald
Anybody have a responsive peering contact at Shaw? I need to resolve a routing problem. Thx!

Re: 10G CPE w/VXLAN - vendors?

2023-06-16 Thread Michel Blais
Pretty sure Ufispace S9502-12SM + IPInfusion OcNOS would work. VxLAN is supported in the IP Base licence. CRS license must be avoided for VxLAN. Look at the OcNOS feature matrix to make sure. Le mer. 14 juin 2023 à 14:51, Adam Thompson a écrit : > Hello, all. > > I’m having difficulty finding

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Michael Thomas
On 6/15/23 10:41 PM, Crist Clark wrote: Comcast still has data caps. My service is 1.2 TB per month. If we get close, we get a warning email. If we were to go over (hasn’t happened yet), we get billed per additional 500 MB. However, I just looked at my account usage for the first time for a

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

2023-06-16 Thread Routing Table Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Global IPv4 Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to

Test Dual Queue L4S (if you are on Comcast)

2023-06-16 Thread Livingood, Jason via NANOG
FYI that today we (Comcast) have announced the start of low latency networking (L4S) field trials. If you are a customer and would like to volunteer, please visit this page. For more info, there is a

RE: Test Dual Queue L4S (if you are on Comcast)

2023-06-16 Thread Livingood, Jason via NANOG
In the meantime please just select some unrelated industry on the form. We don’t care – it seems to be boilerplate. From: "Livingood, Jason" Date: Friday, June 16, 2023 at 15:46 To: "Eric C. Miller" , nanog Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Test Dual Queue L4S (if you are on Comcast) We’re working

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Michael Thomas
On 6/16/23 1:09 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: On 6/16/23 21:19, Josh Luthman wrote: Mark, In my world I constantly see people with 0 fixed internet options.  Many of these locations do not even have mobile coverage.  Competition is fine in town, but for millions of people in the US (and I'm

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Michael Thomas
On 6/16/23 1:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Not everyone can afford $1000 to start up Starlink and then pay $130+ per month.  That may be an option for some, but certainly not the majority. If 100% of a town was covered by a single company with data caps, those that are crying from hitting 1.2

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Mark, In my world I constantly see people with 0 fixed internet options. Many of these locations do not even have mobile coverage. Competition is fine in town, but for millions of people in the US (and I'm going to assume it's worse or comparable in CA/MX) there is no service. As a company

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 6/16/23 22:16, Michael Thomas wrote: Won't Starlink and other LEO configurations be that backstop sooner rather than later? I don't know if they have caps as well, but even if they do they could compete with their caps. Maybe. I really haven't paid any attention to Starlink, although

RE: Test Dual Queue L4S (if you are on Comcast)

2023-06-16 Thread Eric C. Miller
FYI, when trying to sign up, it tells me that my input isn’t required because I work in the telco industry. Eric From: NANOG On Behalf Of Livingood, Jason via NANOG Sent: Friday, June 16, 2023 2:30 PM To: nanog Subject: Test Dual Queue L4S (if you are on Comcast) FYI that today we (Comcast)

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 6/16/23 21:19, Josh Luthman wrote: Mark, In my world I constantly see people with 0 fixed internet options.  Many of these locations do not even have mobile coverage.  Competition is fine in town, but for millions of people in the US (and I'm going to assume it's worse or comparable in

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 6/16/23 18:41, Michael Thomas wrote: Is 1.2 TB enough for a typical cord cutter? I just looked at mine and it looks to be about 300GB/month, but we may not be typical for your average family with kids, say. For residential services, the competition should easily outscore any provider

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Test Dual Queue L4S (if you are on Comcast)

2023-06-16 Thread Livingood, Jason via NANOG
We’re working to fix that. Sorry! From: "Eric C. Miller" Date: Friday, June 16, 2023 at 15:18 To: Jason Livingood , nanog Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Test Dual Queue L4S (if you are on Comcast) FYI, when trying to sign up, it tells me that my input isn’t required because I work in the telco

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Michael Thomas
On 6/16/23 1:22 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: On 6/16/23 22:16, Michael Thomas wrote: Won't Starlink and other LEO configurations be that backstop sooner rather than later? I don't know if they have caps as well, but even if they do they could compete with their caps. Maybe. I really haven't

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Not everyone can afford $1000 to start up Starlink and then pay $130+ per month. That may be an option for some, but certainly not the majority. If 100% of a town was covered by a single company with data caps, those that are crying from hitting 1.2 TB/month will not be enough for a competitor

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 6/16/23 22:36, Josh Luthman wrote: Not everyone can afford $1000 to start up Starlink and then pay $130+ per month.  That may be an option for some, but certainly not the majority. Partly why I don't pay any attention to Starlink. It's a niche product for folk who either have the

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Steve Meuse
I always looked at Comcast's caps as pre-emptive fodder for future FCC bargaining. The next time they want to do something with the FCC's approval and the commission wanted a concession, they would offer it up for the block. -Steve On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 1:41 AM Crist Clark wrote: > Comcast

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Keith Stokes
Cox also has a 1.2 TB cap. If I can believe my graphs, the metered Cox connection (video streaming primarily for wife) is about 90 GB the month of April and the unmetered ATT fiber WFH for me is about 370 GB. Total LAN is about 450 GB. Napkin math but it's pretty close.

Re: 10G CPE w/VXLAN - vendors?

2023-06-16 Thread Tom Mitchell
Lanner NCA-1516 -- Tom On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 9:15 AM Michel Blais wrote: > Pretty sure Ufispace S9502-12SM + IPInfusion OcNOS would work. VxLAN is > supported in the IP Base licence. CRS license must be avoided for VxLAN. > Look at the OcNOS feature matrix to make sure. > > Le mer. 14 juin

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Michael Thomas
On 6/16/23 3:18 PM, Keith Stokes wrote: Cox also has a 1.2 TB cap. If I can believe my graphs, the metered Cox connection (video streaming primarily for wife) is about 90 GB the month of April and the unmetered ATT fiber WFH for me is about 370 GB. Total LAN is about 450 GB. Napkin math but

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Jun 16, 2023, at 11:27, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 6/16/23 18:41, Michael Thomas wrote: > >> Is 1.2 TB enough for a typical cord cutter? I just looked at mine and it >> looks to be about 300GB/month, but we may not be typical for your average >> family with kids, say. > > For

Re: Shaw peering contact

2023-06-16 Thread Christopher Munz-Michielin
I don't have any one to offer, but if you do manage to get in touch with someone and you can, please pass it on. A year or so back I was trying to get in touch with the Shaw NOC regarding some routing weirdness with our Anycast DNS network and never got anywhere. On 2023-06-16 07:27, Chris

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

2023-06-16 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Jun 16, 2023, at 13:16, Michael Thomas wrote: > > > On 6/16/23 1:09 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: >> >> >> On 6/16/23 21:19, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Mark, >>> >>> In my world I constantly see people with 0 fixed internet options. Many of >>> these locations do not even have mobile