Researchers have complained for years about the lack of good
statistics about the internet for a couple fo decades, since the
end of NSFNET statistics.
What are the current estimates about the size of the Internet, all IP
networks including managed IP and private IP, and all telecommunications
Current size is HUGE and growing at a phenomenal speed.
Public IP networks...just look at ARIN, RIPE,etc and see how many IPs
there are left.
Private networks and private IPs...well that is anyone's guess.
There are no estimates because everything changes rather fast and noone
can keep up
Iz this big
*spreads arms wide open*
On 13-08-14 11:10 AM, Alex wrote:
Current size is HUGE and growing at a phenomenal speed.
Public IP networks...just look at ARIN, RIPE,etc and see how many IPs
there are left.
Private networks and private IPs...well that is anyone's guess.
There are no
Pretty big, but they gotta keep it trimmed down to fit on a floppy disk.
Details within - http://www.cidr-report.org
-James
-Original Message-
From: Sean Donelan [mailto:s...@donelan.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:32 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: How big is the Internet?
One segment is the number of people on the planet with a mobile device
that can connect to the Internet? Throw in laptops, workstations,
servers, routers, toasters, etc and the number starts to get pretty big.
The NSA will need some more hard drives. lol
** Of the 6 billion cell phones in
On 8/14/2013 5:32 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
What are the current estimates about the size of the Internet,
the whole internet...
.. is actually the same size in v4 and v6:
0/0
Frank
PS: sorry. my mistake: one of them is ::/0
On (2013-08-14 10:32 -0400), Sean Donelan wrote:
What are the current estimates about the size of the Internet, all IP
networks including managed IP and private IP, and all telecommunications
including analog voice, video, sensor data, etc?
One interesting datapoint might be how many OUI have
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:32:13AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
Researchers have complained for years about the lack of good
statistics about the internet for a couple fo decades, since the
end of NSFNET statistics.
What are the current estimates about the size of the Internet, all IP
On 14 August 2013 10:06, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:32:13AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
Researchers have complained for years about the lack of good
statistics about the internet for a couple fo decades, since the
end of NSFNET statistics.
What are
This big has been a pretty accurate answer over the years
-Jorge
On Aug 14, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote:
Researchers have complained for years about the lack of good
statistics about the internet for a couple fo decades, since the
end of NSFNET statistics.
On 8/14/13, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote:
This big has been a pretty accurate answer over the years
-Jorge
Oh hahahhaah. Oh man, I better get back to work.
Have a nice day gentlemen :).
Nick from Toronto.
Subject: route-views3 resource update
* route-views3.routeviews.org *
route-views3 was, until yesterday, a Cisco 7206VXR (NPE-G2) 1GB.
route-views3 is now a Redhat 6 box running Quagga 0.99.22.3.
This change was made due to memory exhaustion on the older hardware.
Quagga provides a similar but
Not as big as the one that got away... (IPv6)
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote:
Researchers have complained for years about the lack of good
statistics about the internet for a couple fo decades, since the
end of NSFNET statistics.
What are the current
To paraphrase Douglas Adams...
The Internet is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly,
hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way
down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space!
Scott
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Sean
According to The IT Crowd...
http://vinipsmaker.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/the_internet_it_crowd.gif
That big.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote:
Researchers have complained for years about the lack of good
statistics about the internet for a couple fo
You guys are cracking me up and I'm getting odd stares. Now stop it. I've got
to get this internet thing on a CDROM for my boss by 5p so he can review it
tonight...
On Aug 14, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Wayne Wenthin wayne.went...@cascadetech.org
wrote:
According to The IT Crowd...
I should have remembered, NANOG prefers to correct things. So here are
several estimates about how much IP/Internet traffic is downloaded
in a month. Does anyone have better numbers, or better souces of
numbers that can be shared?
Arbor/Merit/Michigan Internet Observatory: 9,000 PB/month
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 03:00:51PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
I should have remembered, NANOG prefers to correct things. So here are
several estimates about how much IP/Internet traffic is downloaded
in a month. Does anyone have better numbers, or better souces of
numbers that can be
On 8/14/2013 11:29 AM, Scott Howard wrote:
To paraphrase Douglas Adams...
The Internet is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly,
hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way
down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space!
Scott
On 8/14/13 7:32 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
Researchers have complained for years about the lack of good
statistics about the internet for a couple fo decades, since the
end of NSFNET statistics.
What are the current estimates about the size of the Internet, all IP
networks including managed IP
On Aug 14, 2013, at 15:00 , Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote:
I should have remembered, NANOG prefers to correct things. So here are
several estimates about how much IP/Internet traffic is downloaded
in a month. Does anyone have better numbers, or better souces of
numbers that can be
IPV6 makes it wider
-Jorge
On Aug 14, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Tim Durack tdur...@gmail.com wrote:
Not as big as the one that got away... (IPv6)
In message 7f58db7c-702a-4d2d-ad50-6ddf98439...@gmail.com, Jorge Amodio
writes:
IPV6 makes it wider
-Jorge
On Aug 14, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Tim Durack tdur...@gmail.com wrote:
Not as big as the one that got away... (IPv6)
10^12 km^3
--
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley,
If we try to comprehend the Internet in terms of number of boxes that can reach
from their local networks to globally routable destinations, we have to take
into account Multi- NATed , multi-tunneled (ipv6 over ipv4 in a VPLS , and
other crazy scenarios such v6 over v4 in a VPLS running over
On 8/14/2013 10:31 AM, Anthony Williams wrote:
One segment is the number of people on the planet with a mobile device
that can connect to the Internet? Throw in laptops, workstations,
servers, routers, toasters, etc and the number starts to get pretty big.
The NSA will need some more hard
On 8/14/2013 1:29 PM, Scott Howard wrote:
To paraphrase Douglas Adams...
The Internet is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly,
hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way
down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space!
It occurred
Yes.
Smartphones have one or more IPs, which may or may not be IPv4/IPv6 public or
rfc1918 address space. There is some tunnelling between the radio and the
packet core, but they typically are first class Internet nodes. You could look
at them as analogous to cable modems or wifi clients.
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I noticed my bandwidth graphs were a little out of whack tonight and after
much digging through pcap files I found that my chrome tab with 'cnn.com'
had a live stream of cnn playing on the right side halfway down.
It seems this started around 8am this morning and it was a macromedia tcp
flash
On 8/14/2013 8:24 PM, Zachary McGibbon wrote:
I noticed my bandwidth graphs were a little out of whack tonight and after
much digging through pcap files I found that my chrome tab with 'cnn.com'
had a live stream of cnn playing on the right side halfway down.
It seems this started around 8am
On 08/14/2013 06:42 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
Trying to get their numbers up off the floor?
lol. That was my first thought as well. =P
-Jordan
On 8/14/2013 9:24 PM, Zachary McGibbon wrote:
It seems this started around 8am this morning and it was a macromedia tcp
flash stream on port 1935.
Wait until they throw some OctoShape P2P streaming video at you...
Jeff
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Alex dreamwave...@yahoo.com wrote:
Current size is HUGE and growing at a phenomenal speed.
Public IP networks...just look at ARIN, RIPE,etc and see how many IPs
there are left.
Private networks and private IPs...well that is anyone's guess.
There are no
On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:24 PM, Zachary McGibbon
mailto:zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com wrote:
I noticed my bandwidth graphs were a little out of whack tonight and after
much digging through pcap files I found that my chrome tab with 'cnn.com'
had a live stream of cnn playing on the
On 08/14/13 15:00, Roy wrote:
On 8/14/2013 11:29 AM, Scott Howard wrote:
To paraphrase Douglas Adams...
The Internet is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly,
hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long
way
down the road to the chemist's, but that's
- Original Message -
From: Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com
What are the current estimates about the size of the Internet, all IP
networks including managed IP and private IP, and all
telecommunications including analog voice, video, sensor data, etc?
I can't decide, Sean, whether it's
- Original Message -
From: Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net
All that said: My back-of-the-envelope math says the Internet is order
of 1 exabyte/day, as defined by my own rules on what counts as the
Internet[*]. I could easily be wrong, but you asked.
Which means that you could
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net
All that said: My back-of-the-envelope math says the Internet is order
of 1 exabyte/day, as defined by my own rules on what counts as the
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
It is actually even harder than the above illustrates. Most people
define Mbps on the Internet as inter-AS bits. But then what about
Akamai AANP nodes, Google GGC nodes, Netflix Open Connect nodes, etc.?
They are all inside the AS. Given that
so true
On 8/14/2013 10:10 PM, Scott Howard wrote:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net
All that said: My back-of-the-envelope math says the Internet is order
of 1 exabyte/day, as defined
On Aug 15, 2013, at 00:19 , Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
It is actually even harder than the above illustrates. Most people define
Mbps on the Internet as inter-AS bits. But then what about Akamai AANP
nodes, Google GGC nodes, Netflix
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:27 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:19:38AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
Either there is a lot of traffic missing, or market concentration is much
greater than assumed.
I'd argue that its both.
I don't want to argue, but
i think of cdns as simpler. aside from the nyt-core-to-cdn traffic,
they're just as if the nyt had connectivity to the provider(s) which
embedded the cache. they are not another layer of traffic, but rather
just traffic for the provider(s) in which they embedded.
randy
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