Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

[Larry Sheldon]

On 3/19/2016 18:16, Warren Kumari wrote:

Found on Staple's website:
http://www.staples.com/NetReset-Automated-Power-Cycler-for-Modems-and-Routers/product_1985686

Fixes all issues, less downtime, less stress...


etc...
...

...and so forth

.
..and so on.


Resetting allows equipment to auto-correct issues


Recalls to mind years ago in the Toll testroom where I work, the 
evenings equipment man (charged with and assigned to the task of 
repairing equipment that had been "patched out" by the day shift) would, 
when he arrived for work each day, retrieve the piece of 2 X 4 from its 
hiding place and whack each bay of relay-rich equipment as he walked in 
the area.


Then, after some coffee and a cigarette, he would go through the 
trouble-ticket collection, retest the item, mark the ticket "NTF" and 
proceed to the next item.


--
sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

[Valdis . Kletnieks]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:07:31 -0700, Roy said:

> Here is an even better one.  This one recycles the power when it loses
> contact with the internet.

Depending on its definition of "lose contact with the Interent", that could
result in interesting failure modes - everything from hundreds of them bouncing
boxes if an upstream router has a BGP flap, to thousands of them DDoS'ing
the test point, and then bouncing boxes... It probably also interacts
badly with power monitoring hardware/software that labels too many power
"faults" in a period of time as a danger situation and holds off on bringing
boxes back online until stability is restored


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Re: 10G tester recommendation

[Eric Litvin]

Manuel- my company, luma optics,  has a handheld  to offer at a very affordable 
price relative to the big brands. It would be my pleasure to follow up with you 
to discuss further.

Regards

Eric Litvin
650 996 7270
e...@lumaoptics.net
PROGRAMMABLE SFP XFP QSFP CFP & Optical Test Equipment



> On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Manuel Marín  wrote:
> 
> Hi Nanog community
> 
> 
> We are looking 10G testers for BER and RFC2544 tests and I was wondering if
> additional to the JDSU/Viavi, is there something else that you can
> recommend like Exfo, Fluke, etc?
> 
> Your input will be appreciate it
> 
> Thank you and have a great day

Re: Wireless (WiFi) MOS equivalent?

[Daniel C. Eckert]

When we do large events, we use the "virtual participant" type of testing
(throughput, latency, connection time from clients we control at different
locations in the venue) in addition to regular infrastructure-side metrics
like RSSI, SNR, last known receive data rate, and system-specific metrics
(we often use Aerohive gear, which has additional metrics like Radio
Health, Network Health, Application Health).

I'd suggest taking a look at what aspects of the network matter most for
your deployments and developing a score based on the primary influencing
metrics; most of it should be doable from the infrastructure side, but you
may also consider the virtual participant option for additional data
collection.

Dan

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Jared Mauch  wrote:

> I've seen some conferences do a virtual participant device that joins the
> wifi and reports back data.
>
> Jared Mauch
>
> > On Mar 16, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Jim Wininger  wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Is there a WiFi equivalent to the VoIP MOS score?
> >
> > We are looking for a way to measure performance of a fairly large WiFi
> deployment.
> >
> > We have 8000+ access points (All Cisco). WE have the standard Cisco
> tools for managing the wireless network (ISE, Prime etc). But we are coming
> up short with a way to “score” the network.
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with this that might be able to help? How do
> large conferences “measure” wireless service quality etc? We are already
> doing end user surveys etc. We have “soft date”, we really need data points.
> >
> > —Jim
>
>
ᐧ

Re: Wireless (WiFi) MOS equivalent?

[joel jaeggli]

On 3/20/16 12:34 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> I've seen some conferences do a virtual participant device that joins the 
> wifi and reports back data. 

netbeez is an example of one such device.

https://netbeez.net

> Jared Mauch
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Jim Wininger  wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Is there a WiFi equivalent to the VoIP MOS score?
>>
>> We are looking for a way to measure performance of a fairly large WiFi 
>> deployment.
>>
>> We have 8000+ access points (All Cisco). WE have the standard Cisco tools 
>> for managing the wireless network (ISE, Prime etc). But we are coming up 
>> short with a way to “score” the network.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with this that might be able to help? How do 
>> large conferences “measure” wireless service quality etc? We are already 
>> doing end user surveys etc. We have “soft date”, we really need data points.
>>
>> —Jim
> 
> 




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Re: Wireless (WiFi) MOS equivalent?

[Jared Mauch]

I've seen some conferences do a virtual participant device that joins the wifi 
and reports back data. 

Jared Mauch

> On Mar 16, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Jim Wininger  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Is there a WiFi equivalent to the VoIP MOS score?
> 
> We are looking for a way to measure performance of a fairly large WiFi 
> deployment.
> 
> We have 8000+ access points (All Cisco). WE have the standard Cisco tools for 
> managing the wireless network (ISE, Prime etc). But we are coming up short 
> with a way to “score” the network.
> 
> Does anyone have experience with this that might be able to help? How do 
> large conferences “measure” wireless service quality etc? We are already 
> doing end user surveys etc. We have “soft date”, we really need data points.
> 
> —Jim

Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

[Roy]

Here is an even better one.  This one recycles the power when it loses 
contact with the internet.


http://resetplug.com/

On 3/20/2016 10:22 AM, Mike wrote:


This is great, I now have something I can show to my customers to 
confirm that all this power cycling and such really is an 'accepted 
problem'...


On 03/19/2016 04:16 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:

Found on Staple's website:
http://www.staples.com/NetReset-Automated-Power-Cycler-for-Modems-and-Routers/product_1985686 



Fixes all issues, less downtime, less stress...
Improves performance, eliminates buffering...
It slices, it dices in teeny, tiny slices.
It makes mounds of julienne fries in just seconds.
...

Description - copied here for convenience:

All the issues associated with the Internet being down can be solved by
power cycling the modem and router. But that can be hard to do! NetReset
resolves network issues by offering sequential power cycling. This means
that when the modem and router are plugged into the device, they are
powered up at different times. The modem is powered up first, then a 
minute

later, the router is powered up. This rebooting will occur at initial
setup, every 24 hours and after a power failure. Do you have a 
modem/router
combo? No problem! NetReset will also power cycle the modem/router 
combo.



Automatically resets user's Internet every 24 hours
Maximizes Internet speed & reliability
Eliminates media stream buffering
Hands-free Internet reset
Resets hard-to-reach modem/router
Less Internet downtime
Less daily stress
No need to manually reset
Reset occurs at programmed time
Updated information from Internet service provider
Proper reboot after a power failure
Resetting allows equipment to auto-correct issues

10G tester recommendation

[Manuel Marín]

Hi Nanog community


We are looking 10G testers for BER and RFC2544 tests and I was wondering if
additional to the JDSU/Viavi, is there something else that you can
recommend like Exfo, Fluke, etc?

Your input will be appreciate it

Thank you and have a great day

Re: junkmailers take the day off....?

[bzs]

On March 19, 2016 at 18:28 mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com (Mike) wrote:
 > Hi,
 > 
 >  This is not a complaint, but today seems to be a major disturbance 
 > in the force...my junkmail load seems to be WAAA down today, like 
 > they all are out at the beach or something... some major botnet get 
 > shutdown or something???

Something which has long worried me is that they get smart enough to
stop spamming network admins and similar.

-- 
-Barry Shein

Software Tool & Die| b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com
Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD   | 800-THE-WRLD
The World: Since 1989  | A Public Information Utility | *oo*

Reminder of the L-Root IPv6 address renumbering

[David Soltero]

This is reminder that there is a scheduled change to the IPv6 addresses for the 
L-Root server, that will take effect on March 23, 2016.

The new IP addresses for the L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET will be:
199.7.83.42
2001:500:9f::42

Please remember to update your root “hints” files on your DNS infrastructure.

Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

[Mike]

This is great, I now have something I can show to my customers to 
confirm that all this power cycling and such really is an 'accepted 
problem'...


On 03/19/2016 04:16 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:

Found on Staple's website:
http://www.staples.com/NetReset-Automated-Power-Cycler-for-Modems-and-Routers/product_1985686

Fixes all issues, less downtime, less stress...
Improves performance, eliminates buffering...
It slices, it dices in teeny, tiny slices.
It makes mounds of julienne fries in just seconds.
...

Description - copied here for convenience:

All the issues associated with the Internet being down can be solved by
power cycling the modem and router. But that can be hard to do! NetReset
resolves network issues by offering sequential power cycling. This means
that when the modem and router are plugged into the device, they are
powered up at different times. The modem is powered up first, then a minute
later, the router is powered up. This rebooting will occur at initial
setup, every 24 hours and after a power failure. Do you have a modem/router
combo? No problem! NetReset will also power cycle the modem/router combo.


Automatically resets user's Internet every 24 hours
Maximizes Internet speed & reliability
Eliminates media stream buffering
Hands-free Internet reset
Resets hard-to-reach modem/router
Less Internet downtime
Less daily stress
No need to manually reset
Reset occurs at programmed time
Updated information from Internet service provider
Proper reboot after a power failure
Resetting allows equipment to auto-correct issues

Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

[Todd Crane]

"Eliminates media stream buffering”

Well, hell… my job is done here. [drops mic, walks out]

> On Mar 19, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
> 
> Found on Staple's website:
> http://www.staples.com/NetReset-Automated-Power-Cycler-for-Modems-and-Routers/product_1985686
> 
> Fixes all issues, less downtime, less stress...
> Improves performance, eliminates buffering...
> It slices, it dices in teeny, tiny slices.
> It makes mounds of julienne fries in just seconds.
> ...
> 
> Description - copied here for convenience:
> 
> All the issues associated with the Internet being down can be solved by
> power cycling the modem and router. But that can be hard to do! NetReset
> resolves network issues by offering sequential power cycling. This means
> that when the modem and router are plugged into the device, they are
> powered up at different times. The modem is powered up first, then a minute
> later, the router is powered up. This rebooting will occur at initial
> setup, every 24 hours and after a power failure. Do you have a modem/router
> combo? No problem! NetReset will also power cycle the modem/router combo.
> 
> 
> Automatically resets user's Internet every 24 hours
> Maximizes Internet speed & reliability
> Eliminates media stream buffering
> Hands-free Internet reset
> Resets hard-to-reach modem/router
> Less Internet downtime
> Less daily stress
> No need to manually reset
> Reset occurs at programmed time
> Updated information from Internet service provider
> Proper reboot after a power failure
> Resetting allows equipment to auto-correct issues



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Re: CALEA Requirements

[Sean Donelan]

The FBI CALEA folks have always had a somewhat expansive interpretation of 
their authorities.


For example, "dialed digit extraction."  The court cases supporting pen 
registers are based on business record exception, i.e. Smith v. Maryland 
says dial numbers are disclosed to the telephone company so the phone 
company can connect and bill the call do not have a reasonable 
expectation of privacy. The FBI expanded its pen-register authority to 
include all numbers dialed *DURING* the call because in the 1970's 
pen-register technology didn't stop recording digits (i.e. the "clicks") 
after a call was answered.  Although modern pen-register technology can 
distinguish between numbers dialed for the purpose of connecting the call, 
and numbers dialed during the call (i.e. your online banking PIN), and 
dialed digit extraction during VOIP calls is an extreme pain in the ass.


In the 1990's, the FBI convinced the FCC to order carriers under CALEA to 
do dialed digit extraction because "that's what they've always done," not 
because its what the law and court cases required.  Even the FCC says in 
its CALEA order, the FBI's justification was flimsy but the FCC wasn't 
willing to oppose the FBI.


As several folks have pointed out, talk to your own legal counsel.  The
FBI CALEA website is the FBI's interpretation of its authority, not 
necessarily what your own counsel would advise.

Re: Charter DDOS scrubbing.

[Ca By]

On Friday, March 18, 2016, Ethan E. Dee  wrote:

> Globalvision is an ISP in greenville sc.
> We are currently peering with two other ISP's we have a gig link with
> charter and are getting hammered quite hard with a full gig and more of
> DDoS on SIP, DNS, NTP, and other random UDP traffic. Alot of folks have
> said that charter will do DDoS scrubbing. Charter however is telling me
> they absolutely cannot offer this service.
> Does anyone have any info on contacting charter or who to bug about this
> to get it in the works? Or does any know for certain that there's no reason
> to even ask?
>
> --
> Ethan Dee
> Network Admin
> Globalvision
> 864 704 3600
> e...@globalvision.net
>
> gv-supp...@globalvision.net
> 864 467 1333
>
>
If you are paying them, they should be able to police ipv4 udp to some
reasonable baseline.  This is a smart proactive method.

They should also be able to put in an acl to simply block udp source ports
that are problem ... Each of these need to be weighed on customer impact
for blocking source udp 53, ntp, ssdp , chargen , frags..

There is also rtbh.

I would avoid scrubbers, acls and policers and rtbh work.



>
> --
> This message has been scanned by E.F.A. Project and is believed to be
> clean.
>
>
>

Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

[Florian Crosnier]

"Have you tried turning it off and on again ?"

On 03/20/2016 04:20 PM, Dovid Bender wrote:
> How does a reboot fix layer 2 issues?
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
>
>> Found on Staple's website:
>>
>> http://www.staples.com/NetReset-Automated-Power-Cycler-for-Modems-and-Routers/product_1985686
>>
>> Fixes all issues, less downtime, less stress...
>> Improves performance, eliminates buffering...
>> It slices, it dices in teeny, tiny slices.
>> It makes mounds of julienne fries in just seconds.
>> ...
>>
>> Description - copied here for convenience:
>>
>> All the issues associated with the Internet being down can be solved by
>> power cycling the modem and router. But that can be hard to do! NetReset
>> resolves network issues by offering sequential power cycling. This means
>> that when the modem and router are plugged into the device, they are
>> powered up at different times. The modem is powered up first, then a minute
>> later, the router is powered up. This rebooting will occur at initial
>> setup, every 24 hours and after a power failure. Do you have a modem/router
>> combo? No problem! NetReset will also power cycle the modem/router combo.
>>
>>
>> Automatically resets user's Internet every 24 hours
>> Maximizes Internet speed & reliability
>> Eliminates media stream buffering
>> Hands-free Internet reset
>> Resets hard-to-reach modem/router
>> Less Internet downtime
>> Less daily stress
>> No need to manually reset
>> Reset occurs at programmed time
>> Updated information from Internet service provider
>> Proper reboot after a power failure
>> Resetting allows equipment to auto-correct issues
>>

Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

[Dovid Bender]

How does a reboot fix layer 2 issues?

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Warren Kumari  wrote:

> Found on Staple's website:
>
> http://www.staples.com/NetReset-Automated-Power-Cycler-for-Modems-and-Routers/product_1985686
>
> Fixes all issues, less downtime, less stress...
> Improves performance, eliminates buffering...
> It slices, it dices in teeny, tiny slices.
> It makes mounds of julienne fries in just seconds.
> ...
>
> Description - copied here for convenience:
>
> All the issues associated with the Internet being down can be solved by
> power cycling the modem and router. But that can be hard to do! NetReset
> resolves network issues by offering sequential power cycling. This means
> that when the modem and router are plugged into the device, they are
> powered up at different times. The modem is powered up first, then a minute
> later, the router is powered up. This rebooting will occur at initial
> setup, every 24 hours and after a power failure. Do you have a modem/router
> combo? No problem! NetReset will also power cycle the modem/router combo.
>
>
> Automatically resets user's Internet every 24 hours
> Maximizes Internet speed & reliability
> Eliminates media stream buffering
> Hands-free Internet reset
> Resets hard-to-reach modem/router
> Less Internet downtime
> Less daily stress
> No need to manually reset
> Reset occurs at programmed time
> Updated information from Internet service provider
> Proper reboot after a power failure
> Resetting allows equipment to auto-correct issues
>

RE: junkmailers take the day off....?

[Tim McKee]

We can only hope it is so...

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 21:29
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: junkmailers take the day off?

Hi,

 This is not a complaint, but today seems to be a major disturbance in the 
force...my junkmail load seems to be WAAA down today, like they all are out 
at the beach or something... some major botnet get shutdown or something???

Mike

-
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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4542/11841 - Release Date: 03/19/16

Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

[Warren Kumari]

Found on Staple's website:
http://www.staples.com/NetReset-Automated-Power-Cycler-for-Modems-and-Routers/product_1985686

Fixes all issues, less downtime, less stress...
Improves performance, eliminates buffering...
It slices, it dices in teeny, tiny slices.
It makes mounds of julienne fries in just seconds.
...

Description - copied here for convenience:

All the issues associated with the Internet being down can be solved by
power cycling the modem and router. But that can be hard to do! NetReset
resolves network issues by offering sequential power cycling. This means
that when the modem and router are plugged into the device, they are
powered up at different times. The modem is powered up first, then a minute
later, the router is powered up. This rebooting will occur at initial
setup, every 24 hours and after a power failure. Do you have a modem/router
combo? No problem! NetReset will also power cycle the modem/router combo.


Automatically resets user's Internet every 24 hours
Maximizes Internet speed & reliability
Eliminates media stream buffering
Hands-free Internet reset
Resets hard-to-reach modem/router
Less Internet downtime
Less daily stress
No need to manually reset
Reset occurs at programmed time
Updated information from Internet service provider
Proper reboot after a power failure
Resetting allows equipment to auto-correct issues

RE: Internet Exchanges supporting jumbo frames?

[Tim McKee]

The factor of 6 was just in reduction of overhead.  Granted in the greater 
scheme of things the overall 4% is relatively insignificant, but there have 
been many times when doing multiple 10-100+GB transfers that I would have 
welcomed a 4% reduction of time spent twiddling thumbs!

-Original Message-
From: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) [mailto:jhe...@cisco.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 00:34
To: Tim McKee
Cc: Dale W. Carder; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Internet Exchanges supporting jumbo frames?

You would hardly notice it.
Helium is 4 times as heavy as hydrogen, but only marginally less buoyant.

Header overhead:
Ethernet=38
IPv4=20
TCP=20
Total=78
Protocol efficiency:
1500: 1500/1578 = 95%
9000: 9000/9078 = 99%

That's 4% better for a TCP packet, not 600%.

Thanks,
Jakob.


> On Mar 18, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Tim McKee  wrote:
> 
> I would hazard a guess that reducing the packet header overhead *and* the 
> Ethernet interframe gap time by a factor of 6 could make enough of an 
> improvement to be quite noticeable when dealing with huge dataset transfers.
> 
> Tim McKee
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jakob Heitz 
> (jheitz)
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 18:21
> To: Dale W. Carder
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Internet Exchanges supporting jumbo frames?
> 
> Then it's mainly TCP slowstart that you're trying to improve?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jakob.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dale W. Carder [mailto:dwcar...@wisc.edu]
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 3:03 PM
>> To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) 
>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: Internet Exchanges supporting jumbo frames?
>> 
>> Thus spake Jakob Heitz (jheitz) (jhe...@cisco.com) on Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 
>> 09:29:44PM +:
>>> What's driving the desire for larger packets?
>> 
>> In our little corner of the internet, it is to increase the 
>> performance of a low number of high-bdp flows which are typically dataset 
>> transfers.
>> All of our non-commercial peers support 9k.
>> 
>> Dale
> 
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> 03/17/16

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Re: www.cisco.com no resolve?

[Dan Lacey]

They did announce a maintenance window on their website.
Must have been a doozy.

On 3/19/16 8:51 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 05:38:03AM +,
  Dmitry Sherman  wrote
  a message of 13 lines which said:


dig www.cisco.com @8.8.8.8

Better to test through the authoritative name servers. The problem was
there, as documented in


So, it was not because of the long CNAME chain, unlike what I wrote
previously.

Re: www.cisco.com no resolve?

[David S.]

Hi,

Here is the dig results, yes it seems only happened to www

gizmos:~ david$ dig www.cisco.com +trace


; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> www.cisco.com +trace

;; global options: +cmd

. 131 IN NS c.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS d.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS i.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS l.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS a.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS f.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS k.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS b.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS m.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS e.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS j.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS h.root-servers.net.

. 131 IN NS g.root-servers.net.

;; Received 228 bytes from 103.234.208.150#53(103.234.208.150) in 2473 ms


com. 172800 IN NS a.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS b.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS c.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS d.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS e.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS f.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS g.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS h.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS i.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS j.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS k.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS l.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS m.gtld-servers.net.

;; Received 491 bytes from 198.97.190.53#53(198.97.190.53) in 799 ms


cisco.com. 172800 IN NS ns1.cisco.com.

cisco.com. 172800 IN NS ns2.cisco.com.

cisco.com. 172800 IN NS ns3.cisco.com.

;; Received 217 bytes from 192.26.92.30#53(192.26.92.30) in 1197 ms


cisco.com. 86400 IN SOA edns-rtp5-1-l. postmaster.cisco.com. 16034550 7200
1800 864000 86400

;; Received 91 bytes from 72.163.5.201#53(72.163.5.201) in 243 ms


gizmos:~ david$ dig cisco.com +trace


; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> cisco.com +trace

;; global options: +cmd

. 120 IN NS b.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS c.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS j.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS e.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS m.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS l.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS h.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS a.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS g.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS k.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS i.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS d.root-servers.net.

. 120 IN NS f.root-servers.net.

;; Received 228 bytes from 103.234.208.150#53(103.234.208.150) in 48 ms


com. 172800 IN NS d.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS l.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS g.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS e.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS b.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS c.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS k.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS i.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS m.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS j.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS f.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS h.gtld-servers.net.

com. 172800 IN NS a.gtld-servers.net.

;; Received 499 bytes from 192.36.148.17#53(192.36.148.17) in 41 ms


cisco.com. 172800 IN NS ns1.cisco.com.

cisco.com. 172800 IN NS ns2.cisco.com.

cisco.com. 172800 IN NS ns3.cisco.com.

;; Received 213 bytes from 192.31.80.30#53(192.31.80.30) in 355 ms


cisco.com. 86400 IN A 72.163.4.161

cisco.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.cisco.com.

cisco.com. 86400 IN NS ns3.cisco.com.

cisco.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.cisco.com.

;; Received 229 bytes from 72.163.5.201#53(72.163.5.201) in 415 ms


Thank you

Best regards,
David S.

e. da...@zeromail.us

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 12:53 PM, John Kinsella  wrote:

> Confirmed in Northern California, on all 3 primary NS servers. A little
> Friday night maintenance window, maybe?
>
> Looks like it’s just the www record...
>
> > On Mar 18, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Dmitry Sherman 
> wrote:
> >
> > dig www.cisco.com @8.8.8.8
> >
> >
> > ; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> www.cisco.com @8.8.8.8
> > ;; global options: +cmd
> > ;; Got answer:
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 60416
> > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
> >
> >
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;www.cisco.com.   IN  A
> >
> >
> > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> > cisco.com.1247IN  SOA edns-rtp5-1-l.
> postmaster.cisco.com. 16034550 7200 1800 864000 86400
> >
> >
> > ;; Query time: 94 msec
> > ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
> > ;; WHEN: Sat Mar 19 07:36:22 2016
> > ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 91
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > —
> > Dmitry Sherman
> > Interhost Networks Ltd
> > dmi...@interhost.net
> > office: 972-74-7029881
> > mobile: 972-54-3181182
> > http://www.interhost.co.il
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
>
>

RE: Internet Exchanges supporting jumbo frames?

[Tim McKee]

I would hazard a guess that reducing the packet header overhead *and* the 
Ethernet interframe gap time by a factor of 6 could make enough of an 
improvement to be quite noticeable when dealing with huge dataset transfers.

Tim McKee

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 18:21
To: Dale W. Carder
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Internet Exchanges supporting jumbo frames?

Then it's mainly TCP slowstart that you're trying to improve?

Thanks,
Jakob.

> -Original Message-
> From: Dale W. Carder [mailto:dwcar...@wisc.edu]
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 3:03 PM
> To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) 
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Internet Exchanges supporting jumbo frames?
> 
> Thus spake Jakob Heitz (jheitz) (jhe...@cisco.com) on Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 
> 09:29:44PM +:
> > What's driving the desire for larger packets?
> 
> In our little corner of the internet, it is to increase the 
> performance of a low number of high-bdp flows which are typically dataset 
> transfers.
> All of our non-commercial peers support 9k.
> 
> Dale

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Charter DDOS scrubbing.

[Ethan E. Dee]

Globalvision is an ISP in greenville sc.
We are currently peering with two other ISP's we have a gig link with 
charter and are getting hammered quite hard with a full gig and more of 
DDoS on SIP, DNS, NTP, and other random UDP traffic. Alot of folks have 
said that charter will do DDoS scrubbing. Charter however is telling me 
they absolutely cannot offer this service.
Does anyone have any info on contacting charter or who to bug about this 
to get it in the works? Or does any know for certain that there's no 
reason to even ask?


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Re: CALEA Requirements

[Robert Haylock]

If you are a wireline ISP, start with the ATIS-113* docs, you will see
from the FBI link below, different services and carrier types (e.g. voice
or cable) have additional needs on top of this.

As Scott said, your legal/regulatory team needs to guide you to exactly
which in the listMAY apply in your situation, but from a technical point of
view you can at least get an idea about what you might have to do by
starting with the ATIS specs:

https://askcalea.fbi.gov/standards.html

Rob

On 14 March 2016 at 13:57, Scott Weeks  wrote:

>
>
> --- lor...@hathcock.org wrote:
> From: "Lorell Hathcock" 
>
> Can someone point me to the current CALEA requirements?
>
> As an ISP, should I be recording all internet traffic that passes my
> routers?  Or do I only have to record when and if I receive a court order?
>
> I'm not under any court order now, I just want to be sure that I am
> compliant going forward in my capabilities.
> -
>
>
> This is something your company's lawyers should hash out.
> That said, you shouldn't record anything unless forced to
> do so.  It'll just make pervasive surveillance easier.
>
> scott
>

Wireless (WiFi) MOS equivalent?

[Jim Wininger]

Hello all,

Is there a WiFi equivalent to the VoIP MOS score?

We are looking for a way to measure performance of a fairly large WiFi 
deployment.

We have 8000+ access points (All Cisco). WE have the standard Cisco tools for 
managing the wireless network (ISE, Prime etc). But we are coming up short with 
a way to “score” the network.

Does anyone have experience with this that might be able to help? How do large 
conferences “measure” wireless service quality etc? We are already doing end 
user surveys etc. We have “soft date”, we really need data points.

—Jim

Re: E911 (was CALEA Requirements)

[Dan Lacey]

Todd,

Could you pick a more problematic venture in telecom? ;-)
I have done a couple of these.
(I just joined the list and have no idea how much you know on the subject)

My clients are wholesale customers of different local LECs (Local 
Exchange Carrier).
These are the guys that own the wire centers in your location (e.g. 
CenturyLink, Verizon, etc.)
I do not know how they work with non-wholesale customers with regards to 
E911 services.


The specifics of what will be required differ from LEC to LEC and also 
depend on the PSAP (E911 center) you will connect to.
Most people use a consultant to get this done since there will be many 
technical details related to the circuits and technical meetings with 
the LEC and PSAP.
The LECs and PSAPs are not in the business of building your network... 
so they typically don't offer much assistance.

(If you have ever submitted an ASR to a LEC, you will know what I mean).

Your first step is to get in touch with your LEC and find out what 
services they can provide.
You could also contact your PSAP and find out their interconnection 
requirements.

Then you will have some scope on the project.

If you go the wholesale route you really will need someone to guide you 
through the process.
On the other hand, if you are already a wholesale customer of a LEC, 
experienced with placing ASRs for DS0s, DS1s and multiplexors, then you 
probably can get this done in-house.


Sincerely,
Dan

JANOG38 Meeting Call for Presentations

[Hiroya Kaneko]

Hello,

JANOG38 Meeting will take place on 6-8 July 2016 in OKINAWA, Japan.


JANOG is making a call for presentations until 15 April 2016.
Our meetings are in Japanese, but we have had several non-Japanese speakers who 
made presentations in the past.

We are looking forward to your proposals for presentations.


Shishio Tsuchiya,Hiroya Kaneko
JANOG38 Programme Committee Co-Chairs


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 Banquet(in the evening on 7th): TBD
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If you are interested to give a presentation, submissions are welcome via 
e-mail at:"meeting-38[at]janog.gr.jp" with the following information.

 1. Speaker's name(s)
 2. Speaker's organization(s)
 3. Preferred contact email address
 4. Submission category (General Session or Panel Session)
* If your choice is panel, please tell us the number of speakers  5. 
Presentation title  6. Abstract  7. Desired presentation time and discussion 
time  8. Slides (attachment or URL), in PowerPoint or PDF format.

Our Meetings are in Japanese, so non-Japanese speakers usually arrange an 
informal interpreter.
If you are interested in making a presentation at JANOG but cannot arrange an 
interpreter by yourself, you could consult with us at:
"meeting-38[at]janog.gr.jp". Although we cannot guarantee, we may be able to 
help you on volunteer basis.
Let us know if you have any questions : meeting-38[at]janog.gr.jp


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determine whether you are exempt from the visa requirement.

Please refer to the official website from Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan 
or any other appropriate website to get more information about Visa 
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Please note that JANOG can not assist you with your visa application.
If you have any questions about the meeting, please feel free to contact 
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Re: remote serial console (IP to Serial)

[Michael Rave]

> On 08 Mar 2016, at 16:34, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> AirConsole has an "all in one" solution with software and such.

+1 for AirConsole, use it for many situations and works really well.


Regards,

Michael Rave
Crossivity

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

[ML-NANOG-Stefan-Jakob]

Hi Mark,

Mark Tinka  schrieb am So., 28. Feb. 2016 07:13:

>
>
> On 3/Feb/16 09:58, Nick Hilliard wrote:
>
> > Typically the features that fall by the wayside first are: reasonable
> > port buffers, qos knobs and decent lag/ecmp hashing support for mpls
> > packets.
>
> Cisco, in general, are suffering here, i.e., QoS on LAG's.
>
> IOS, IOS XE and IOS XR suffer massively.
>
> We find that Junos does a better job here.
>
> Mark.
>

Do yo have more details what's wrong with the XR platform?

Which hardware do we talk about and which XR version is your statement
applying?

Rgds, Stefan

>

Re: junkmailers take the day off....?

[Måns Nilsson]

Subject: Re: junkmailers take the day off? Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 
01:50:31AM + Quoting Mel Beckman (m...@beckman.org):
> I'm seeing the same thing. Weird. 
> 
> -mel via cell
> 
> > On Mar 19, 2016, at 6:29 PM, Mike  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> >This is not a complaint, but today seems to be a major disturbance in 
> > the force...my junkmail load seems to be WAAA down today, like they all 
> > are out at the beach or something... some major botnet get shutdown or 
> > something???

A large portion of the Swedish newspaper web sites were hit with a fairly
large attack yesterday evening MET, around 1830UTC. Perhaps the keyword is
"retasked". Fwiw, I also saw a decline in my spamcount. 

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