Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Javier J
This is great to hear Nicholas. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Nicholas Harland wrote: > Hi Sean, > > Thank you for all of your updates. I am just catching up on them because I > only recently got back from the virgin islands. I am one of those > volunteers working in the

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Randy Bush
> Labs.APNIC has a pretty cool system to measure this kind of stuff by > deploying specially crafted google ads, see "How Big is that Network?" which should have been titled "how many eyeballs in that network"

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Geoff Huston
> On 3 Oct 2017, at 7:17 am, Eric Dugas wrote: > > For some reason my previous email was empty. > > What I wrote: > > "Some of these numbers are largely inflated... > > e.g. Teksavvy at 937,855 estimated users. How can they have 937,855 users > if they "only" have

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Nicholas Harland
Hi Sean, Thank you for all of your updates. I am just catching up on them because I only recently got back from the virgin islands. I am one of those volunteers working in the USVI. St John specifically. We are building out a wireless network, and had our first hotspot up in Cruz Bay 4 days after

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Geoff Huston
> On 3 Oct 2017, at 6:57 am, Jacques Latour wrote: > > Hi all! > > I'm working on our IPv6 and DNSSEC adoption report for Canada and the data I > use comes largely from APNIC (https://stats.labs.apnic.net/dnssec/CA) and > (https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/CA). > >

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Sean Donelan wrote: On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: I haven't seen any reports of a Teamster union refusal. I *have* seen reports that only 10-30% of truck drivers are operational, because of one or more of: You're lucky. The bots have been pushing this

RE: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Jacques Latour
Right, forgot to mention, it's population, not IP addresses, the average is 2.2 person / household in Canada I believe. > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Harald > Koch > Sent: October 2, 2017 4:34 PM > To: NANOG list >

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Harald Koch
On 2 October 2017 at 16:17, Eric Dugas wrote: > > > e.g. Teksavvy at 937,855 estimated users. How can they have 937,855 users > if they "only" have 686,848 IPv4 (https://bgp.he.net/AS5645)? > I have one IPv4 and five users in my household... -- Harald (teksavvy

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Eric Dugas
For some reason my previous email was empty. What I wrote: "Some of these numbers are largely inflated... e.g. Teksavvy at 937,855 estimated users. How can they have 937,855 users if they "only" have 686,848 IPv4 (https://bgp.he.net/AS5645)? Also, Allstream/Zayo AS15290 has a lot of IPs but

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Filip Hruska
Hi, There are various reasons that might be causing this: * Lots of VPNs on OVH network * OVH offers "desktop-as-a-service" and from what I understand it's quite popular * OVH is also a home ISP - just in France though; but not sure if/how APNIC separated OVH as an ISP and OVH as a server

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
On 2017-10-02 21:57, Jacques Latour wrote: The question I have is why does OVH come #6 with an estimated population of 1,480,927 behind its ASN? Remember these are actual placement of ads. Should I count those users as part of my stats? I would say VPN - OVH has cheap servers and is quite

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Eric Dugas

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Stephen Fulton
Hi Jack, As OVH is a data centre, I find that extraordinary if eyeballs were the cost. VPN's may be popular but that seems excessive. Probably bots of some sort, scraping the internet. -- Stephen On 2017-10-02 3:57 PM, Jacques Latour wrote: Hi all! I'm working on our IPv6 and DNSSEC

Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Jacques Latour
Hi all! I'm working on our IPv6 and DNSSEC adoption report for Canada and the data I use comes largely from APNIC (https://stats.labs.apnic.net/dnssec/CA) and (https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/CA). Labs.APNIC has a pretty cool system to measure this kind of stuff by deploying specially

Re: isp/cdn caching

2017-10-02 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* I'm obviously a bit biased, but I have some reasoning behind it. Also, this is excluding large scale networks like Comcast, AT, Charter, etc. that do have the scale to have on-net solutions. It's also excluding remote locations where there may not be another node for hundreds or

Re: isp/cdn caching

2017-10-02 Thread Tom Paseka via NANOG
Hi, Cloudflare does deploy caches, however we usually look to do so in unique locations, ie. where an ISPs network isn't already in reach of one of our existing deployments/peering points. You can email peer...@cloudflare.com directly if seeking this. -Tom On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:22 AM,

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: I haven't seen any reports of a Teamster union refusal. I *have* seen reports that only 10-30% of truck drivers are operational, because of one or more of: You're lucky. The bots have been pushing this very hard for several days. I don't know

Re: Long BGP AS paths

2017-10-02 Thread Tim Evens
Yikes, my bad. In the CSV file it didn't seem so large. I setup a dashboard where you can browse the longest as paths for the selected time period. check out demo-rv.snas.io:3000/dashboard/db/top-as-paths?orgId=2 [3]. Change the time range to see those longer paths. They are no longer current in

Which one(s) of SWIP, RWhois, RDAP? (Fwd: [ARIN-consult] NEW Consultation: Available Methods of Reporting Network Sub-Delegation Information)

2017-10-02 Thread John Curran
NANOGers! Apologies (as some of you have already seen this) but it has more relevance to network operations than most IP number policy matters, so out of avoidance of any doubt, I call this to your attention. ARIN has opened a community consultation on the question of which

Re: AS PATH limits

2017-10-02 Thread Ken Chase
Got this reply from cogent: "We have isolated a BGP Routing discrepancy on the Backbone. That routing has been removed from the Network." So apparently they agree they shouldn't just accept this bogosity. Good on em. /kc -- Ken Chase - m...@sizone.org Guelph Canada

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-10-02 02:58, Wayne Bouchard wrote: > Well, that's why recovery efforts in broad scale events like this have > to go from a central point to pushing a perimiter farther and farther > out. Create a habital, functional zone where workers can return to > both to organize and recouperate and

Re: AS PATH limits

2017-10-02 Thread Jörg Kost
Its also happily announced onwards, e.g. by Telia: Oct 2 07:25:09:E:BGP: From Peer ... received Long AS_PATH= AS_SEQ(2) 1299 174 262206 262206 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197

Re: AS PATH limits

2017-10-02 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Den 2. okt. 2017 00.44 skrev "Randy Bush" : looks to me as if 262206 is trying a silly tactic to down-pref inbound from cogent. as cogent probably prefers customers to peers, it may not be working as 262206 expected, so they keep pounding with the same hammer hoping for a miracle.

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Wayne Bouchard
Well, that's why recovery efforts in broad scale events like this have to go from a central point to pushing a perimiter farther and farther out. Create a habital, functional zone where workers can return to both to organize and recouperate and then go back out and push farther afield. First