Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread bob evans
I think it's because they need to...not for any legal reason, but to increase cash flow by every penny possible. As they just spend 2.3 billion dollars on an acquisition. Every penny they can add to a bill is an attempt to slow the bleeding that resulting from over borrowing. 3600 employees, huge

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
Well... they can until they can't because I'm no longer a customer... On December 2, 2018, at 6:23 PM, James R Cutler wrote: On Dec 2, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote: I can't imagine how the corporate sociopaths could justify charging an American recovery fee on a service

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
Same situation with us. We have dozens of circuits with them as a result of that acquisition and the previous ACI acquisition of Canopco and OneConnect. Not impressed. Not a happy customer. Already flipping to alternatives. On December 2, 2018, at 5:31 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote: GTT is

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah similar experience here …. But we’ve had that fee for a number of years applied. Hibernia as well has been charging us for it since long ago …. ACI – yup going downhill in a hurry ;( From: NANOG on behalf of Clayton Zekelman Date: Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 5:30 PM To: Matt Harris

RE: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread K MEKKAOUI
Our experience with GTT was just a nightmare. All kinds of billing problems and surcharges (finance surcharge, regulatory surcharge, etc.). As soon as we finished the contract, we just stopped our business with them. Now, lawyers are taking over. KARIM M. From: NANOG

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Brandon Wade via NANOG said: > We've been a GTT customer for several years and on our latest bill we now > have a "Regulatory Recovery Surcharge" of almost 10% tacked on. We only > purchase IP Transit services from them, nothing else, and have never had any > fees tacked on

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 2:41 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Service_Fund > https://www.fcc.gov/general/universal-service-fund > https://www.fcc.gov/general/universal-service > > Kinda crappy they don't spell it out. Well, no, I guess USF would be > closer to

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Owen DeLong
Nope… IP transit doesn’t pay into USF generally speaking. USF is billed as a separate line item (at least on the bills I get where it is a factor). The “regulatory recovery fee” is a bs name telcos use to make it sound like a tax they are passing on to the government. In reality, it’s a slush

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread James R Cutler
On Dec 2, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > I can't imagine how the corporate sociopaths could justify charging an > American recovery fee on a service delivered in Canada. I would speculate that the reason is ever popular ‘because they can”. James R. Cutler

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Clayton Zekelman
They are charging it to us on a connection they deliver in Toronto Canada. I can't imagine how the corporate sociopaths could justify charging an American recovery fee on a service delivered in Canada. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Matt Harris wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 2,

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Matt Harris
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:41 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > Maybe this? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Service_Fund > https://www.fcc.gov/general/universal-service-fund > https://www.fcc.gov/general/universal-service > > > Kinda crappy they don't spell it out. Well, no, I guess USF would

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Maybe this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Service_Fund https://www.fcc.gov/general/universal-service-fund https://www.fcc.gov/general/universal-service Kinda crappy they don't spell it out. Well, no, I guess USF would be closer to +-18%. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Eric Dugas
Saw this on our old GTT bill first and then on our Hibernia account bill when they merge their finance dept. Filled a dispute with GTT finance and after multiple fights, we got these surcharges removed. We ended up with a HUGE mess on our bills, charged in USD when our contracts were in CAD,

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Clayton Zekelman
GTT is rapidly losing any good will they've had with us over the past number of years. We just got hit with that regulatory recovery fee too, and they totally screwed up the transfer of billing operations when they bought our colo provider, Accelerated Connections (which used to be an awesome

Re: GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Matt Harris
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:06 PM Brandon Wade via NANOG wrote: > We've been a GTT customer for several years and on our latest bill we now > have a "Regulatory Recovery Surcharge" of almost 10% tacked on. We only > purchase IP Transit services from them, nothing else, and have never had > any fees

GTT Regulatory Recovery Surcharge

2018-12-02 Thread Brandon Wade via NANOG
We've been a GTT customer for several years and on our latest bill we now have a "Regulatory Recovery Surcharge" of almost 10% tacked on. We only purchase IP Transit services from them, nothing else, and have never had any fees tacked on top of our contracted agreed upon amount. Has anyone else

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2018-12-02 Thread Matthew Black
My concern against using FB for authentication is this: Does using FB login give the site read access to my profile, friends, etc? My profile is set to private to keep advertisers at bay. In the early years Facebook warned users that clicking on an external link would grant such access.

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2018-12-02 Thread Rich Kulawiec
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