Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Masataka Ohta
Brian J. Murrell wrote: You can also use OpenSource (Jool) for the NAT64. Will any of these (including MAP-E) support such nasty (in terms of burying IP addresses in data payloads) protocols as FTP and SIP/SDP? Are you saying ICMP and DNS nasty? As DNS protocol is still actively

Re: The future of transport in the metro area

2019-08-02 Thread Brandon Martin
On 8/2/19 4:10 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: Now, the next step in all this that is starting to gain a bit of traction is "spectrum", i.e., rather than take a normal grey service from a Transport operator, have them deliver you a portion of the DWDM spectrum so that you can run as much bandwidth as you

Re: Spam due to new ARIN allocation

2019-08-02 Thread Ryan Hamel
> > Do it. I'd name and shame all of them. Ryan On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 4:33 PM Tim Burke wrote: > >> We recently received a new ASN from ARIN - you know what that means... >> the sales vultures come out to play! >> >> So far, it has resulted in spam from Cogent (which is, of course, to be >>

Re: Spam due to new ARIN allocation

2019-08-02 Thread Brandon Martin
On 8/2/19 7:32 PM, Tim Burke wrote: So far, it has resulted in spam from Cogent (which is, of course, to be expected), and now another company called "CapCon Networks" -http://www.capconnetworks.com. As far as I am aware, this practice is against ARIN's Terms of Use. Is it worth reporting to

Spam due to new ARIN allocation

2019-08-02 Thread Tim Burke
We recently received a new ASN from ARIN - you know what that means... the sales vultures come out to play! So far, it has resulted in spam from Cogent (which is, of course, to be expected), and now another company called "CapCon Networks" - http://www.capconnetworks.com. As far as I am aware,

Re: OT: Tech bag

2019-08-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 5:01 PM Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:54:49 -0400, Christopher Morrow said: > > 'server has no ip address' . > > $ ping www.tombin.com > > PING www.tombin.com (127.0.0.1) > > > > good try to get us all infected by malware... > > Anybody who gets

Re: OT: Tech bag

2019-08-02 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:54:49 -0400, Christopher Morrow said: > 'server has no ip address' . > $ ping www.tombin.com > PING www.tombin.com (127.0.0.1) > > good try to get us all infected by malware... Anybody who gets infected by malware from that IP address has bigger problems

Re: OT: Tech bag

2019-08-02 Thread Pete Baldwin - TCC
I use a Veto Pro Pac https://www.vetopropac.com/product/tech-pac-lt/ More focused on tools, but it fits my Thinkpad p50 without issue, all of my cables, and most of the tools that I use day to day. I used to use more tactical focused backpacks but I kept ripping compartments or breaking

Re: The future of transport in the metro area

2019-08-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/Aug/19 20:06, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > Bear with me one more time as I drill down a little and spell things > out. I've realized that there may be more than one interpretation of > "EoDWDM". Are you referring to: > > (a) Ethernet packets in OTU frames - thereby implying an

Re: OT: Tech bag

2019-08-02 Thread Andrew Latham
Correct url may be https://www.tombihn.com/ On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 1:50 PM John Covici wrote: > https://www.tombin.com has some great bags for laptops, etc. Not > cheap but very good stuff. > > On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 12:19:08 -0400, > Hunter Fuller wrote: > > > > I carry this. It's a preference I

Re: OT: Tech bag

2019-08-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 2:50 PM John Covici wrote: > > https://www.tombin.com has some great bags for laptops, etc. Not 'server has no ip address' . $ ping www.tombin.com PING www.tombin.com (127.0.0.1) good try to get us all infected by malware... On a less funny note, try out some of the

Re: Removing defunct IRR records from LEVEL3 rr

2019-08-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
agree with michael, they were super helpful to me over the last few months. On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 2:18 PM Michael Davis wrote: > > I recently did this with an email to rout...@level3.net > > Took all of a few hours, no issues.. > > thanks > mike > > On 8/2/19 12:24 PM, Tim Howe wrote: > > Has

Re: OT: Tech bag

2019-08-02 Thread John Covici
https://www.tombin.com has some great bags for laptops, etc. Not cheap but very good stuff. On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 12:19:08 -0400, Hunter Fuller wrote: > > I carry this. It's a preference I gained in my past life: > https://www.kleintools.com/catalog/tool-storage/tradesman-pro-backpack > > I put

Re: Removing defunct IRR records from LEVEL3 rr

2019-08-02 Thread Michael Davis
I recently did this with an email to rout...@level3.net Took all of a few hours, no issues.. thanks mike On 8/2/19 12:24 PM, Tim Howe wrote: Has anyone successfully gotten Level3/Centurylink to remove defunct IRR objects? All paths seem to lead to trying to get me to log into a customer

Re: The future of transport in the metro area

2019-08-02 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale
Bear with me one more time as I drill down a little and spell things out. I've realized that there may be more than one interpretation of "EoDWDM". Are you referring to: (a) Ethernet packets in OTU frames - thereby implying an underlying OTN? (b) Ethernet optical SFP+ transceivers with a cable

Weekly Routing Table Report

2019-08-02 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to

Re: OT: Tech bag

2019-08-02 Thread Laszlo Hanyecz
On 2019-08-02 16:42, James Downs wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 11:19:08AM -0500, Hunter Fuller wrote: This one has since been released, and it has a laptop compartment. My Yeah, I definitely look for some sort of laptop compartment. If not padded on its own, I stick the laptop into a

Re: OT: Tech bag

2019-08-02 Thread James Downs
On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 11:19:08AM -0500, Hunter Fuller wrote: > This one has since been released, and it has a laptop compartment. My Yeah, I definitely look for some sort of laptop compartment. If not padded on its own, I stick the laptop into a padded sleeve. I run one of these:

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG
The cost of sharing IPs in a static way, is that services such as Sony Playstation Network will put those addresses in the black list, so you need to buy more addresses. This hasn’t been the case for 464XLAT/NAT64, which shares the addresses dynamically. Furthermore, if some users need less

Removing defunct IRR records from LEVEL3 rr

2019-08-02 Thread Tim Howe
Has anyone successfully gotten Level3/Centurylink to remove defunct IRR objects? All paths seem to lead to trying to get me to log into a customer portal. If they have incorrect objects for IP resources I control, how am I supposed to get them cleaned up if I am not a customer? --TimH

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Baldur Norddahl
The goal is to minimize cost. Assuming 4 bits for the MAP routing (16 users sharing one IPv4), leaving 12 bits for customer ports (4096 ports) and a current price of USD 20 per IPv4 address, this gives a cost of USD 1.25 per user for a fully redundant solution. For us it is even cheaper as we can

Re: OT: Tech bag

2019-08-02 Thread Hunter Fuller
I carry this. It's a preference I gained in my past life: https://www.kleintools.com/catalog/tool-storage/tradesman-pro-backpack I put my notebook (Surface Pro) in a sleeve and sandwich it between the halves. It hasn't gotten crushed to death yet. I'll admit this is not optimal. This one has

OT: Tech bag

2019-08-02 Thread Dovid Bender
Hi, Sorry for the OT email. I travel extensively to DC's and my computer bag seems to keep collecting more tools which includes your usual console cables, spare everything, two laptops etc. My Swissgear has been taking a beating and I was wondering what others who have to lug around 30-35 pounds

contact from AS 45382

2019-08-02 Thread Ricardo Patara
hi, any contact from ASN 45382 in the list? it seems one of its customers is announcing a ipv4 block allocated to other organization. the 45.164.24.0/24 is part of a /22 allocated to a brazilian organization and it is currently being announced with origin in the 45382 and transit via 4766, both

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 5:33 PM Bryan Holloway wrote: > > > On 8/2/19 5:16 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > > > > Multiple customers share an IPv4 address each with an assigned port > range. > > > > > One downside that has been brought up on the list before is that a DDoS > attack against a single

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Jay Hanke
Is there a summary presentation someplace laying out the options that are active in the wild with some deployment stats? On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:34 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote: > > I understand that, but the inconvenient is the fix allocation of ports per > client, and not all the

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Bryan Holloway
On 8/2/19 5:16 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: Multiple customers share an IPv4 address each with an assigned port range. One downside that has been brought up on the list before is that a DDoS attack against a single subscriber will impact many, but that particular drawback may not

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG
I understand that, but the inconvenient is the fix allocation of ports per client, and not all the clients use the same number of ports. Every option has good and bad things. MAP is less efficient in terms of maximizing the “use” of the existing IPv4 addresses.

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Hi Jordi My alternative to MAP-E is plain old NAT 444 dual stack. I am trying to avoid the expense and operative nightmare of having to run a redundant NAT server setup with thousands of users. MAP is the only alternative that avoids a provider run NAT server. Regards, Baldur On Fri, Aug 2,

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 3:49 PM Brian J. Murrell wrote: > > Will any of these (including MAP-E) support such nasty (in terms of > burying IP addresses in data payloads) protocols as FTP and SIP/SDP? > > All MAP-E does is reserving a port range for each customer. So customer A might be assigned

Re: The future of transport in the metro area

2019-08-02 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale
Mark, when you write "There is a healthy sharing of the pie between DWDM and packet to drive these Ethernet Metro's ", can you elaborate a little? Are you referring specifically to EoDWDM, or do you have something else in mind? Etienne On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:10 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > And

Phoenix IX down/gone?

2019-08-02 Thread Paul Emmons
VoIP is up and running but the web site server crashed. Currently restoring server. Voice number 602 688-6414 ~Paul

Re: Phoenix IX down/gone?

2019-08-02 Thread Adrian
On Thursday 01 August 2019 14:48:53 Peter Kranz via NANOG wrote: > Anyone know what happened to Phoenix IX? https://peeringdb.com/ix/66 They > seem off the air including website and phones.. permanently? > $DAYJOB is peered and passes traffic thru there. I don't have full access to check but it

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Aled Morris via NANOG
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 at 14:49, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > Will any of these (including MAP-E) support such nasty (in terms of > burying IP addresses in data payloads) protocols as FTP and SIP/SDP? > I'm a fan of these solutions that (only) use NAT44 in the CPE as this is exactly what they're

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Will any of these (including MAP-E) support such nasty (in terms of burying IP addresses in data payloads) protocols as FTP and SIP/SDP? LW4o6 is regular NAT44 and then tunnel encap. MAP-E is similar. So if there is NAT44 helper for these protocols

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Fri, 2019-08-02 at 15:37 +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote: > Ask the vendor to support RFC8585. > > > > Also, you can do it with OpenWRT. > > > > I think 464XLAT is a better option and both of them are supported by > OpenWRT. > > > > You can also use OpenSource (Jool) for

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG
Ask the vendor to support RFC8585. Also, you can do it with OpenWRT. I think 464XLAT is a better option and both of them are supported by OpenWRT. You can also use OpenSource (Jool) for the NAT64. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 2/8/19 14:20, "NANOG en nombre de Baldur

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Baldur Norddahl wrote: be a demand. Alternatively I need to find a different CPE vendor that has MAP-E support, but are there any? Broadcom supports MAP-E and LW4o6 encap/decap in fastpath on at least BCM63138 with their latest BSP versions. -- Mikael Abrahamsson

MAP-E

2019-08-02 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Hello Are there any known public deployments of MAP-E? What about CPE routers with support? The pricing on IPv4 is now at USD 20/address so I am thinking we are forced to go the CGN route going forward. Of all the options, MAP-E appears to be the most elegant. Just add/remove some more headers

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-02 Thread Tom Hill
On 01/08/2019 15:14, Nick Olsen wrote: > It roams on 3UK. And works fine. Albeit the LTE deployment isn't near as > wide there as it is in the US. And you end up on HSDPA pretty frequently. To the this point, I've a Three contract here (UK). It has slightly been frustrating recently, I'll admit.

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-02 Thread James Bensley
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 02:36, Ryan Gelobter wrote: > > Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear > console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 > countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to >

Re: Phoenix IX down/gone?

2019-08-02 Thread Bryan Holloway
On 8/2/19 3:29 AM, Brandon Wade via NANOG wrote: Corrected URL: https://peeringdb.com/ix/662 Anyone know what happened to Phoenix IX? https://peeringdb.com/ix/66 They seem off the air including website and phones.. permanently? -PeterK at 32354

Re: The future of transport in the metro area

2019-08-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/Aug/19 10:17, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > Mark, when you write "There is a healthy sharing of the pie between > DWDM and packet to drive these Ethernet Metro's ", can you elaborate a > little? Are you referring specifically to EoDWDM, or do you have > something else in mind?

Re: The future of transport in the metro area

2019-08-02 Thread Mark Tinka
And just to add that I think that as part of the future, 5G is likely to play a big part as well, somewhere between the Metro and the Access. Mark.

Re: The future of transport in the metro area

2019-08-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On 31/Jul/19 16:48, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > > "I'm trying to identify trends in adoption of transport technology in > the metro-area. If legacy is SDH/SONET and its successor in circuit > transport is OTN, what are network providers implementing and planning > to implement as