“Big, undersea, mpls network”. Doesn’t get much cooler than that ;)
Aaron
> On Aug 16, 2023, at 9:51 PM, scott via NANOG wrote:
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>> On 8/17/23 2:03 AM, John Levine wrote:
>> According to Eric Kuhnke :
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>>> It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned
I would be willing to travel down to help restore infra; I did this back
around Sandy as well. Is there anyone we can contact?
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 10:51 PM scott via NANOG wrote:
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> On 8/17/23 2:03 AM, John Levine wrote:
> > According to Eric Kuhnke :
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> >> It's my
On 8/17/23 2:03 AM, John Levine wrote:
According to Eric Kuhnke :
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It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati
Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati
On 8/17/23 1:08 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati
Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati
during the era of the pre-1984 Bell system.
On 8/16/23 4:32 PM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "scott via NANOG"
On 8/11/23 4:06 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
It's like a war zone.
Yes, it definitely looks like that. We have connectivity to some of the
edges and have put up hotspots, so folks can go to the
According to Eric Kuhnke :
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>It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati
>Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
>independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati during
>the era of the pre-1984 Bell system.
On 8/16/23 3:58 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
I found it interesting that *all*? cellular service on west maui died?
Does every carrier single-home via waves served out of the Lahaina CO?
Or maybe they aren't allowed to have generators in Maui? Seems like they
would have diverse paths to major sites
It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati
Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati during
the era of the pre-1984 Bell system.
Somewhat like how GTE was independent in
On 8/16/23 16:16, michael brooks - ESC wrote:
Perhaps (probably) naively, it seems to me that DPA would have been a
useful BGP attribute. Can anyone shed light on why this RFC never
moved beyond draft status? I cannot find much information on this
other than IETF's data tracker
On 8/16/23 09:32, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
Well, it sounds like the historical Bell System attitude has transitioned
forwards to ... newer transport. Good.
Legacy GTE in this case, but agreed.
Best of luck to you all, out there.
Indeed.
--
Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
Network Engineering
- Original Message -
> From: "scott via NANOG"
> On 8/11/23 4:06 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
>> It's like a war zone.
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> Yes, it definitely looks like that. We have connectivity to some of the
> edges and have put up hotspots, so folks can go to the hotspot areas and
> get internet access.
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> So, probably not a failure "caused by GPS", rather one caused by poor
> design (only two clock sources) combined with unsupported and buggy
> devices.
100% correct. From the PDF :
4.31 JT summarised its findings in relation to the ‘Panic Timer’ on the
> Cisco IOS XR NTP Client, namely that:
So, probably not a failure "caused by GPS", rather one caused by poor
design (only two clock sources) combined with unsupported and buggy
devices.
Interesting software bug, but not really germane to this discussion, other than
as a cautionary tale about time distribution architectures.
-mel
Thanks for that link.
This is jumping out at me though :
Their interior routing protocol used amongst their mesh of routers was
> IS-IS which was using authentication. The authentication [section 4.19]
> was described having a "password validity start date" of 01 July 2012.
> Thus, any routers
So, probably not a failure "caused by GPS", rather one caused by poor
design (only two clock sources) combined with unsupported and buggy
devices.
-mel beckman
On Aug 16, 2023, at 3:51 AM, Matthew Richardson
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Mel Beckman wrote:-
Do you have a citation for your Jersey event? I doubt
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Perhaps (probably) naively, it seems to me that DPA would have been a
useful BGP attribute. Can anyone shed light on why this RFC never moved
beyond draft status? I cannot find much information on this other than
IETF's data tracker (
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-dpa/) and
Throw PTP in the mix for the greater accuracy required for some wireless (5G) configurations, and the situation becomes even more complicated.On Aug 14, 2023, at 6:55 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:We're going to have to somewhat disagree here...I may not have been 100% clear about
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> That's a terrible excuse for the shitty concepts behind MikroTik's CLI.
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Fear of being sued into oblivion by a massive corporation, even if they're
in the wrong, has influenced many choices in technology.
To be clear, I am not stating that Mikrotik made the CLI choices they did
BECAUSE of
Mel Beckman wrote:-
>Do you have a citation for your Jersey event? I doubt GPS caused the problem,
>but Id like to see the documentation.
The event took place on the evening of Sunday 12 July 2020, and seems NOT
to have been due to an issue caused directly by GPS, but rather to
misbehaviour of
Not many physical paths available in that area. I would assume there are also a handful of wireless paths as well.Plus, it’s likely most of the cell sites burnt down during the fires.-MikeOn Aug 15, 2023, at 22:54, TJ Trout wrote:I found it interesting that *all*? cellular service on west maui
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