Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup

2023-08-25 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/26/23 00:54, Tom Beecher wrote: It would, sure. Instead of storing a single prefix/next-hop with flags in memory, you now have to store every prefix/next-hop that you are announcing as well. Indeed. But it has been worth it. The load balancing from PE-to-PE has been fantastic,

Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup

2023-08-25 Thread Tom Beecher
> > On MX480 16GB RE's running two full BGP feeds but hundreds of customer > sessions, Add-Paths really eats into RAM. > It would, sure. Instead of storing a single prefix/next-hop with flags in memory, you now have to store every prefix/next-hop that you are announcing as well. On Fri, Aug 25,

Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup

2023-08-25 Thread Aaron1
No VC here, unsure if it works, but yeah, we like them and deploy them in pairs for metro-e (ce) and cbh for vlans carried over mpls pw Reliable for us Aaron > On Aug 25, 2023, at 4:40 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > >  > >> On 8/25/23 19:16, Tom Beecher wrote: >> >> In my experience and testing

Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup

2023-08-25 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/25/23 19:16, Tom Beecher wrote: In my experience and testing with them, you have a decent bit of headroom past the published RIB/FIB limits before they'll fall over. They are holding up pretty well for us, mainly because we do a lot more BGP on MX480's than on MX204's. We use the

starlink deluge test and 33 (-2) engine static fire

2023-08-25 Thread Dave Taht
I know it is a bit off topic for nanog, but this test was very exciting today: https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1695158759717474379 Happy friday! While they have filed for a launch license for august 31st, it is impossible for me to believe that date! It was also difficult to believe the deluge

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

2023-08-25 Thread Routing Table Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Global IPv4 Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG UKNOF, TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to

Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup

2023-08-25 Thread Tom Beecher
> > On another note, the potential issue we might run into is pressure on > control plane memory on the MX204 for us that run BGP Add-Paths. You can > always upgrade the RE on an MX240/480/960, but the MX204 is fixed (and > last time I checked, fiddling with Juniper RE memory was generally >

Re: Deployments of Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)

2023-08-25 Thread Phil Bedard
Hi Etienne, Those replies are accurate. There are still some large PBB deployments since once you deploy technologies it’s hard to change. However, there haven’t really been new PBB deployments in many years now. Vendors are also not developing the features to support it any more. I would

Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup

2023-08-25 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/23/23 17:14, Matt Erculiani wrote: Does Fusion not make sense in this case? I've not had a ton of experience with it, but it does well to add a crazy port count to an otherwise very port limited device. In small edge PoP's, we attach an Arista 1U switch with tons of 1/10Gbps ports

Re: Deployments of Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)

2023-08-25 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/25/23 09:41, Tarko Tikan wrote: AFAIK this reflects the reality very well. There are huge PBB deployments in very large networks but the overall number of networks, using PBB, is very low. Even in those networks PBB is/will be phased out so don't expect any new deployments. It is

Re: Deployments of Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)

2023-08-25 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey, I've had two private replies, both of which suggest that PBB has little to no share in the overall pie of the aggregation technology space, nor in the overall pie of the core technology space. However, a third correspondent states that Bard (Google's "Chat-based AI tool") claims that

Re: Deployments of Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)

2023-08-25 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG
I've had two private replies, both of which suggest that PBB has little to no share in the overall pie of the aggregation technology space, nor in the overall pie of the core technology space. However, a third correspondent states that Bard (Google's "Chat-based AI tool") claims that PBB is