Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers

2010-06-08 Thread Gadi Evron
Gadi. -- Gadi Evron, http://gadievron.com/

Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers

2010-06-08 Thread Gadi Evron
is what they have in mind. Gadi. -- Gadi Evron, http://gadievron.com/

Recommendation in Australia for ISPs to force user security?

2010-06-22 Thread Gadi Evron
http://www.zdnet.com.au/make-zombie-code-mandatory-govt-report-339304001.htm A government report into cybercrime has recommended that internet service providers (ISPs) force customers to use antivirus and firewall software or risk being disconnected. security Committee chair Belinda Neal

Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-01 Thread Gadi Evron
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/07/01/finland.broadband/index.html?hpt=T2 Interesting...

The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-01 Thread Gadi Evron
The upcoming issue will be about cyber war. Check out the front page image: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs488.snc3/26668_410367784059_6013004059_4296972_499550_n.jpg Gadi.

Re: Who controlls the Internet?

2010-07-26 Thread Gadi Evron
On 7/25/10 8:24 PM, Tarig Yassin wrote: I would like to issue a question here, who controls this Internet? Vix does, who else? :) Gadi.

(wikileaks) Fwd: [funsec] And Google becomes a DNS..

2010-12-05 Thread Gadi Evron
I withhold comment... discuss amongst yourselves. Best, Gadi. Original Message Subject:[funsec] And Google becomes a DNS.. Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:34:50 +0200 From: Imri Goldberg lorgan...@gmail.com To: funsec fun...@linuxbox.org Found on reddit:

Re: (wikileaks) Fwd: [funsec] And Google becomes a DNS..

2010-12-05 Thread Gadi Evron
On 12/5/10 5:50 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: I withhold comment... discuss amongst yourselves. Found on reddit: http:/ Not sure why the URL didn't go through... http://i.imgur.com/Q5SVu.png Enjoy. Gadi.

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-05 Thread Gadi Evron
Christopher Morrow wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Deepak Jaindee...@ai.net wrote: What does it say about these providers AUP that the FTC needed to go to court to turn them off? I hate to re-start the atrivo/intercage/mccolo thread(s) but, often what happens is there just arent any

Re: YES I'VE TRIED MANY VENUES looking for mail admin @ nist.gov

2009-07-10 Thread Gadi Evron
J. Oquendo wrote: (press 3) - rerouted to an APNIC block (outsourced!): Velcome is here to en eye esh tee dish is John I'm having trouble with mail.. vell have you tried reboot? vat vershun of vindows are you use? *ducks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpmLrz_lSuE The IT Crowd, one of

[Fwd: [ GLSA 200907-15 ] Nagios: Execution of arbitrary code]

2009-07-20 Thread Gadi Evron
While this is the Gentoo advisory, it's generic enough. Gadi. -- Gadi Evron, g...@linuxbox.org. Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/ ---BeginMessage--- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gentoo Linux Security Advisory

Re: Are you an unpaid volunteer?

2009-07-22 Thread Gadi Evron
. Don't shoot the messenger though! And it wasn't really NANOG that did or does much of what he describes, but NANOG is a good enough representative name for the community of people who do, when we our definition to network operations. Gadi. -- Gadi Evron, g...@linuxbox.org. Blog

Re: DOS in progress ?

2009-08-06 Thread Gadi Evron
feeling inside. Off topic, I found it hilarious how all the tweets came back to facebook and set statuses about twitter. :o) Gadi. -- Gadi Evron, g...@linuxbox.org. Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/

ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities?

2009-09-07 Thread Gadi Evron
Jury Exacts $32M Penalty From ISPs For Supporting Criminal Websites http://darkreading.com/securityservices/security/cybercrime/showArticle.jhtml 'Landmark case' indicates that ISPs may be held liable if they know about criminal activity on their customers' Websites and fail to act A federal

Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities?

2009-09-07 Thread Gadi Evron
Gadi Evron wrote: Jury Exacts $32M Penalty From ISPs For Supporting Criminal Websites http://darkreading.com/securityservices/security/cybercrime/showArticle.jhtml Corrected URL: http://darkreading.com/securityservices/security/cybercrime/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid

Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities?

2009-09-07 Thread Gadi Evron
jamie wrote: FYI, This was discussed in the already-OT thread Beware : a very bad precedent set a week ago. Ah. I apologize. It happens. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Gadi Evron g...@linuxbox.org mailto:g...@linuxbox.org wrote: Gadi Evron wrote: Jury Exacts $32M Penalty

Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients

2009-10-03 Thread Gadi Evron
The story is covered by PC mag: --- ... major Dutch ISPs have agreed to share information and establish a common set of rules for responding to users infected with malware, especially those in botnets. The agreement, called a treaty by locals, involves 14 ISPs covering 98% of the market.

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients

2009-10-04 Thread Gadi Evron
Christopher Morrow wrote: I would also point out that Qwest does this walled-garden approach for their customers (have been for at least 5 years now? d...@qwest could clarify) and they've seen success with it. Aliant in .ca also has some fairly aggressive anti-malware works installed. There are

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients

2009-10-06 Thread Gadi Evron
Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: Gadi Evron wrote: Barton F Bruce wrote: Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting service to the point that a family using VOIP only for their phone service can't call 911 and several children burn to death could bring all sorts of undesirable regulation let alone

Re: kaspersky anti-virus tech, with a clue?

2009-11-14 Thread Gadi Evron
Jim Mercer wrote: can anyone point me at a Kaspersky tech with a clue? maybe we can re-craft our login url to not offend the Kaspersky suite. Forwarding. Gadi. -- Gadi Evron, g...@linuxbox.org. Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/

Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

2009-11-18 Thread Gadi Evron
is hosted by the ISOTF, but is governed by members. Note: SCADA, network operations, and other related issues should be discussed in the appropriate forums, elsewhere. This group deals with the internet. To subscribe: http://isotf.org/mailman/listinfo/cii Gadi Evron for ISOTF-CII-WG.

Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

2009-11-18 Thread Gadi Evron
Simon Lockhart wrote: On Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 07:08:31PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation. Sorry, who is ISOTF? I tried looking on the website, but the About ISOTF page is blank... http://www.isotf.org/?page_value

Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

2009-11-18 Thread Gadi Evron
back: http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/6a32u/please_enter_the_first_1178_digits_of_pi_wait/ As to if it's a joke... one way to find out. :) Gadi. -- Gadi Evron, g...@linuxbox.org. Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/

Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

2009-11-18 Thread Gadi Evron
ISOI 6 was hosted by the University of Texas, Dallas, and supported by Baylor University. http://isotf.org/isoi6.html ISOI 7 was hosted by Websense and ESET, and supported by Facebook and Softlayer: http://isotf.org/isoi7.html Gadi. Regards Jorge -- Gadi Evron, g...@linuxbox.org

Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

2009-11-18 Thread Gadi Evron
Gadi Evron wrote: I can share personal examples of past uses relating to NANOG, which are public: Oh, duh! The outages mailing list is part of the ISOTF, although clearly its own entity. Gadi.

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-24 Thread Gadi Evron
? As to the intricate web of who they are and where their resources lie, these are usually cases where the more you dig, the more you find -- ad infinitum. Me? I'd just kick them after verifying they are not victims themselves. I hope this helps, Gadi. -- Gadi Evron, g...@linuxbox.org. Blog

Re: general badness AS-based reputation system

2011-09-26 Thread Gadi Evron
On 9/26/11 2:31 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote: Sorry... what makes you think the problem with use of a AS-reputation systems is social and not technical? IP packets are not stamped with the numbers of any of the AS they transitted to reach your network. The IP protocol simply does not expose AS number

Re: general badness AS-based reputation system

2011-09-26 Thread Gadi Evron
We tried to outline some of the challenges of building such a system in our NANOG52 presentation: http://www.merit.edu/networkresearch/papers/pdf/2011/NANOG52_reputation-nanog.pdf In particular see slide 4. where we tried to lay down what we think the requirements are for a socially

Google's Schmidt on Iran supposedly hijacking GOOG'd .dk traffic

2011-12-21 Thread Gadi Evron
Video at: http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/12/13/erin-schmidt-on-iran.cnn Gadi. -- Gadi Evron, g...@linuxbox.org. Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/

Re: DDoS from theplanet.com

2008-09-25 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Term wrote: Hi, Is there anyone on this list that can give me a noc/security contact for someone at theplanet.com I have been getting a DDos from servers hosted with them for the past 60 hours and they seem to have the care factor of 0 There are some good security

Estonian Cyber Security Strategy document -- now available online

2008-09-26 Thread Gadi Evron
of the Estonian economy. Those who wish to download the document: http://www.mod.gov.ee/?op=bodyid=518 My contact there specified she'd be happy to answer any questions. To avoid spam of her inbox, email me for her address. Gadi Evron.

Re: Internet Filtering Lobby ?

2008-09-26 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Does anyone know what this group is really about and how it might actually impact real networks ? Reminds me of something Fergie said at ISOI 5 just a couple of weeks ago: if only the records industry was interested in folks like Atrivo and RBN

Re: Hey ISC, thanks for providing free wifi to intercage!

2008-10-01 Thread Gadi Evron
I do believe the wireless is provided for 200 Paul and everyone hosted there. But if gloating in an inflamatory fashion ... oh, fake email address. What a surprise. Gadi. On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, intercage blows wrote: * RussM ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has joined #dronebl * RussM *pokes*

Re: Fwd: cnn.com - Homeland Security seeks cyber counterattack system(Einstein 3.0)

2008-10-07 Thread Gadi Evron
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:30:11 CDT, J. Oquendo said: What about exceeding the minimum requirements for a change. (I think

[funsec] ICANN Terminates EstDomains' Registrar Accreditation (fwd)

2008-10-29 Thread Gadi Evron
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:47:48 -0700 From: Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [funsec] ICANN Terminates EstDomains' Registrar Accreditation -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Mr. Tsastsin, Be advised that

Re: Current subscribe address for outages list?

2008-10-29 Thread Gadi Evron
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Gadi Evron wrote: actually nobody has posted any info about this other than what you just posted, no details/carrier/location etc. Jared was kind enough to take the hosting load, and the list is now hosted there. Also, following discussions on nanog-futures I

[funsec] McColo: Major Source of Online Scams and Spams Knocked Offline (fwd)

2008-11-11 Thread Gadi Evron
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:22:42 -0800 From: Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [funsec] McColo: Major Source of Online Scams and Spams Knocked Offline -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Via Security Fix. [snip] A

Re: [funsec] McColo: Major Source of Online Scams and Spams Knocked Offline (fwd)

2008-11-12 Thread Gadi Evron
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Kee Hinckley wrote: After reading this, and the (Washington Post I believe--I'm away from my laptop right now) article on this, two things are bothering me. The article expressed a good deal of frustration with the (lack of) speed with which law enforcement has been

RE: an over-the-top data center

2008-11-28 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: It seems that all these cases are more under the bottom than over the top. Every couple of years there is a story about some anti virus company, data center, or whatever running out of an old nuclear bunker/military base/middle of no where.

Re: Security Intelligence [Was: Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP...]

2008-12-14 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 05:51:13PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: but you need to be much more specific about what you want from medium and smaller isps, and what the immediate payoffs (cf. the financial secions of the newpaper) will be to them to justify the

Re: Security Intelligence [Was: Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP...]

2008-12-15 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Gadi Evron g...@linuxbox.org wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 05:51:13PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: but you need to be much more specific about what you want from medium

[USN-698-1] Nagios vulnerability (fwd)

2008-12-22 Thread Gadi Evron
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:35:54 -0500 From: Marc Deslauriers marc.deslauri...@canonical.com To: ubuntu-security-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com Cc: bugt...@securityfocus.com, full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: [USN-698-1] Nagios vulnerability

Attacking a critical Internet infrastructure

2008-12-27 Thread Gadi Evron
Hi folks and happy new year! I am emailing to spam about a talk about to be given at the CCC conference (25c3). I apologize for the cross-posting. At the 4th day of CCC (30th), there is an interesting as-of-yet no details disclosed talk by a couple of good people.

reliable IOS exploitation

2008-12-29 Thread Gadi Evron
FX has given a comprehensive talk about IOS exploitation (including even TCL scripts operators leave behind when they moved jobs to retain access). He has shown effective and ineffective ways of detecting compromise in IOS. Then, he has shown how reliable exploitation of IOS routers works.

Re: Security team successfully cracks SSL using 200 PS3's and MD5 flaw.

2009-01-02 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Joe Abley wrote: On 2009-01-02, at 09:04, Rodrick Brown wrote: A team of security researchers and academics has broken a core piece of Internet technology. They made their work public at the 25th Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin today. The team was able to create a

Re: Security team successfully cracks SSL using 200 PS3's and MD5

2009-01-02 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Dragos Ruiu wrote: www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/; classtype: policy-violation; sid:101;) You can't really use any snort rule to detect SHA-1 certs created by a fake authority created using the MD5 issue. Yes, this is a serious matter, but it hardly has any

Re: Ethical DDoS drone network

2009-01-04 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, John Kristoff wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:06:34 -0500 Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net wrote: Say for instance one wanted to create an ethical botnet, how would this be done in a manner that is legal, non-abusive toward other networks, and unquestionably used for

Re: Ethical DDoS drone network

2009-01-04 Thread Gadi Evron
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 1:33 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: You want to 'attack' yourself, I do not see any problems. And I see lots of possible benefits. This can be done internally using various

Re: Cogent haiku

2009-01-09 Thread Gadi Evron
hehe On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, neal rauhauser wrote: Cogent drops packets. Angry customers call. Twice. Admin writes haiku.

RE: Cogent haiku

2009-01-09 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Steve Fischer wrote: That is too funny! He cheated by adding periods :P -Original Message- From: neal rauhauser [mailto:nrauhau...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:06 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Cogent haiku Cogent drops packets. Angry customers

Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress)

2009-01-23 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: I respectfully disagree. Network engineers have to keep up with many tasks and preventing DoS/DDoS should be the responsibility of everyone. I see more folks worried about spam than they are actual security. Because non of us wantsto spend the next two

Re: Great outage of 1997 - Does anyone recall?

2009-02-23 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Danny McPherson wrote: On Feb 22, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Paul Wall pauldotw...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Gadi Evron g...@linuxbox.org wrote: What was that story with an African routes some

[ MDVSA-2009:054 ] nagios (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Gadi Evron
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:05:01 +0100 From: secur...@mandriva.com Reply-To: xsecur...@mandriva.com To: bugt...@securityfocus.com Subject: [ MDVSA-2009:054 ] nagios -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: [ MDVSA-2009:054 ] nagios (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Gadi Evron
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Eric Gearhart wrote: I hate to be pedantic but is this something that should get forwarded to NANOG? I guess the relevance is justified because a lot of network folks run Nagios...? As long as network operators related vulns don't start showing up every couple of months

Re: wires mess thread

2009-03-13 Thread Gadi Evron
This came across my RSS feed today from gizmodo: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/845v3/this_data_center_has_got_its_shit_together/

phishing attacks against ISPs (also with Google translations)

2009-03-25 Thread Gadi Evron
In this email message I'd like to discuss two subjects: a. Phishing against ISPs. b. Phishing in different languages against ISPs as soon as Google adds a new translation module. [My apologies to those who receive this email more than once. I am approaching several different industries on this

Re: phishing attacks against ISPs (also with Google translations)

2009-03-25 Thread Gadi Evron
William Allen Simpson wrote: I've not recently seen an ISP account phish here. The last one I remember was circa 2003. It was a dictionary attack, arriving at my was@ account (long since rendered useless by spam volume and terminated). However, I don't save phish/spam anymore. I used to save

The Confiker Virus hype and measures

2009-03-30 Thread Gadi Evron
Joe Blanchard wrote: Anyone have a copy of this? Would like to analyze it and understand its propagation. Thanks -Joe I'm sure someone sent you a sample by now. As to the malware itself... I haven't personally been following conficker as I've been busy with other issues (as much as

Re: Fiber cut in SF area

2009-04-09 Thread Gadi Evron
Jorge Amodio wrote: On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: isn't there a mailing list for this sort of thing? outages@ I think it is? Jared put together long time ago outages at outages.org seems to still be active and receiving reports about this

one shot remote root for linux?

2009-04-28 Thread Gadi Evron
This is one of them mysterious and rare cases where a non router OS vulnerability may affect network operations. Sometimes news finds us in mysterious yet obvious ways. HD Moore (respected security researcher) set a status which I noticed on my twitter: @hdmoore reading through

Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive

2007-05-16 Thread Gadi Evron
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Ian Mason wrote: - so much so that this is the first time I was explicitly aware that he offers paid consultancy in this area, if that is indeed the case. I don't. Nor do I work for a colsultancy. Thanks, Gadi.

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-12 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Paul Ferguson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As bad as the domain tasting problem really is, will anyone from the Ops community speak up? http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-10aug07.htm I personally consider this issue to be one of

[NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-16 Thread Gadi Evron
. Sebastian Muniz, a researcher with Core Security Technologies, developed the software, which he will unveil on May 22 at the EuSecWest conference in London. Gadi Evron. ___ NANOG mailing list NANOG@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-16 Thread Gadi Evron
16, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the upcoming EusecWest Sebastian Muniz will apparently unveil an IOS rootkit. skip below for the news item itself. We've had discussions on this before, here and elsewhere. I've been heavily attacked on the subject of considering router

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-17 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sat, 17 May 2008, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the way of running this isn't out in the wild and it's actually dangerous then a pox on anyone who releases it, especially to gain publicity at the expensive of

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-17 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sat, 17 May 2008, Simon Lockhart wrote: On Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:47:02PM +0930, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: Paul Wall wrote: What if some good comes from this root kit? I'm sure it'll be good for a number of security providers to hawk their wares. How long before we need to install

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-17 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sat, 17 May 2008, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: The question is who can't afford for these things to happen... Gadi. I can't help but feel you're pushing fear to further some other interest here Gadi. It is alright to have feelings. Gadi.

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-17 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sat, 17 May 2008, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: It is alright to have feelings. Gadi. So I ask again, expecting nothing but another flippant answer: I will honour you flame-bait, but only once. Do you actually have live examples of this or able to demonstrate it or are you just

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-17 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sat, 17 May 2008, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: I'd love to know what magical mystical protection your routers have that will enable them to avoid the same fate as every other device and operating system has. There's only one thing up there that doesn't have known rootkits in the wild.

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-17 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sat, 17 May 2008, Felix 'FX' Lindner wrote: But I don't see a reason for panic and Cisco is at least partially right with their response ( http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/products_security_response09186a0080997783.html ) to the whole issue: someone still needs a privilege level 15

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-17 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 18 May 2008, Mark Smith wrote: Reflections on Trusting Trust http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html That is the #1 paper on security anyone can read, and reading your email I was about to ask if you ever read it. It certainly is my fav. Thanks for reminding us all of the url.

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-18 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 18 May 2008, Dragos Ruiu wrote: On 17-May-08, at 3:12 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the way of running this isn't out in the wild and it's actually dangerous then a pox on anyone who releases it,

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-18 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 18 May 2008, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Let's put it this way. 1. Yes there's nothing to patch, as such 2. It can be prevented by what's widely regarded as BCP on router security, and has been covered at *nog, in cisco training material, etc etc for quite some time now. I am

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-18 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 18 May 2008, Joel Jaeggli wrote: Dragos Ruiu wrote: First of all about prevention, I'm not at all sure about this being covered by existing router security planning / BCP. I don't believe most operators reflash their routers periodically, nor check existing images (particularly

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-18 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 18 May 2008, Joel Jaeggli wrote: The result from your check can easily be modified, first thing I would have changed is the checker. That is a normal thing to do with rootkits (return bogus results). Which is part of the reason I suggested that method I did. Short of pulling the

Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

2008-05-20 Thread Gadi Evron
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Deepak Jain wrote: Wouldn't this level of verification/authentication of running code be a pretty trivial function via RANCID or similar tool? Absolutely, and it actually makes sense. The problem though is that it is one again an escalation war and counter-inventions

[NANOG] An account of the Estonian Internet War

2008-05-20 Thread Gadi Evron
by a third party: Battling Botnets and Online Mobs Estonia's Defense Efforts during the Internet War URL: http://www.ciaonet.org/journals/gjia/v9i1/699.pdf It is not technical, I hope you find it useful. Gadi Evron. ___ NANOG mailing list NANOG

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread Gadi Evron
On Tue, 27 May 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:02:32 CDT, Gadi Evron said: On Tue, 27 May 2008, Jared Mauch wrote: *yawn* I guess we will wait for the next one before waking up, than. No Gadi. What Jared is saying is that there are exactly *ZERO* routers (for some

Re: IOS Rookit: running hacked binaries certainly places you at risk!

2008-05-27 Thread Gadi Evron
On Tue, 27 May 2008, Jared Mauch wrote: On May 27, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008, Jared Mauch wrote: On May 27, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: An alternative rootkit ? Privilege level 16 used by the Lawful Intercept [12] feature could be abused

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-28 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 29 May 2008, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2008 10:37:05 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So let's see - if you had a billion CPUs in your botnet, and each one could go at a billion to the second, you still need 2**69 seconds or 449,235,776,528,695 years. Not bad - only

Re: [Outages] Outages have an Outage? (fwd)

2008-06-17 Thread Gadi Evron
Lightning storm, subsequent commercial power failure. UPS not up due to restructing. We are working on getting backup servers alive, as to DNS we used to secondary at vixie's, but due to IP changes and movements removed that for now. A comedy of mistakes. Details below. --

security relevance [was: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs]

2008-06-27 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Roger Marquis wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote: 1) Fast flux 2) Botnets 3) Domain tasting 4) valid contact info These are separate and distinct issues... They are separate but also linked by being issues that only be addressed at the registrar level,

RE: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs

2008-06-27 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: These issues are not separate and distinct, but rather related. A graduated level of analysis of membership in any of the sets of: 1: Recently registered domain. 2: Short TTL 3: Appearance in DShield, Shadowserver, Cyber-TA and other sensor lists.

Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs

2008-06-27 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Roger Marquis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote: I'd point out that FastFlux is actually sort of how Akamai does it's job (inconsistent dns responses) That's not really fast

TTL settings efficiency [was: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs]

2008-06-27 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, I was under the impression anything less than 120 is effectively as good as 120. I have not measured... I bet yahoo has though :) and/or Akamai. There's a reason

Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs

2008-06-27 Thread Gadi Evron
-hoc groups and populations (not necessarily under any flag or leadership, think Estonia). Gadi. -Original Message- From: Gadi Evron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM To: Tomas L. Byrnes Cc: Christopher Morrow; Roger Marquis; nanog@nanog.org

warfare and the Internet [was: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs]

2008-06-27 Thread Gadi Evron
I forgot to change the subject line, apologies. On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Gadi Evron wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: I just know who should be held for further processing @ the gate. This is getting off-topic, so let's continue the discussion for a couple more emails to see

Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs

2008-06-29 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: This requires serious elaboration. How could you use a domain in .exe to actually attack someone? (No handwaving, please, actual study.) I think it would be the other way around - I would assume that that was a near worthless TLD, as it would

Re: Internet management, was ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs

2008-06-29 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, John Levine wrote: We already see this in the email world, where a self-appointed cartel like the MAAWG can decide technical rules and policies, bypassing both IETF and ICANN. As an active participant in both the IETF and MAAWG, and a former member of the ICANN ALAC, I can

Re: Paul Vixie: Re: [dns-operations] DNS issue accidentally leaked?

2008-07-24 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Joe Greco wrote: downplay this all you want, we can infect a name server in 11 seconds now, which was never true before. i've been tracking this area since 1995. don't try to tell me, or anybody, that dan's work isn't absolutely groundbreaking. i am sick and bloody tired

Re: TLD servers with recursion was Re: Exploit for DNS Cache Poisoning - RELEASED

2008-07-24 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, John Kristoff wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:06:25 +0100 Simon Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked last night, and noticed TLD servers for .VA and .MUSEUM are still offering recursion amongst a load of less popular top level domains. Indeed just under 10% of the

Re: TLD servers with recursion was Re: Exploit for DNS Cache Poisoning - RELEASED

2008-07-24 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Gadi Evron wrote: But sticking to the point, TLD servers should (under most circumstances) be Should NEVER, oops.

RE: TLD servers with recursion was Re: Exploit for DNS Cache Poisoning- RELEASED

2008-07-24 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Martin Hannigan wrote: I personally know several folks from within and wayyy from outside the DNS world who discovered this very out there and obvious issue and worked hard to try and contact the operators. Those that haven't fixed it yet, likely won't if all thing

Re: TLD servers with recursion was Re: Exploit for DNS Cache Poisoning- RELEASED

2008-07-24 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Steve Bertrand wrote: Gadi Evron wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Martin Hannigan wrote: I personally know several folks from within and wayyy from outside the DNS world who discovered this very out there and obvious issue and worked hard to try and contact the operators

Re: Admin: Offtopic Political Threads

2008-07-27 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Paul Wall wrote: Simon, Sorry to steer this in a different direction, but could you please tell us a bit about the new MLC's plans for suspending habitual off-topic posters in violation of the three strikes rule, such as Gadi Evron and Larry Sheldon? can you take your

Remote Cisco IOS FTP exploit (fwd)

2008-07-29 Thread Gadi Evron
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:31:11 +0100 From: Andy Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Remote Cisco IOS FTP exploit Hi, The IOS FTP server vulnerabilities were published in an advisory by Cisco in May 2007. The FTP server does not run

Re: [funsec] Subject line misleading. ATT Pwned. Sweet Irony: Metasploit Creator a Victim of His Own Creation (fwd)

2008-07-30 Thread Gadi Evron
I guess history decided the previous discussion in favor of vix. Although I doubt vix sees this compromise at ATT as a victory, but rather a loss. Note: HD has not been compromised. Gadi. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:46:49 -0700 From: Dragos Ruiu

RE: [funsec] Subject line misleading. ATT Pwned. Sweet Irony:Metasploit Creator a Victim of His Own Creation (fwd)

2008-07-30 Thread Gadi Evron
. -Original Message- From: Martin Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:13 PM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian; Gadi Evron; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [funsec] Subject line misleading. ATT Pwned. Sweet Irony:Metasploit Creator a Victim of His Own Creation (fwd

Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers

2008-07-31 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote: Today I looked at my most recent bill from Level3. They are now assessing a 2.5% surcharge, which is listed as Taxes on the bandwidth bill I have. In the state of PA, telecoms services are explicitly not taxable. When you call Level3 billing,

Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers

2008-07-31 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Joe Maimon wrote: You try something, see if it works. Then try something a little bit less, see if it works, and so on. If what you are saying translates to How much pain can we inflict on our customers before they break (whether or not it increases revenue or decreases

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