Re: Dreamhost hijacking my prefix...

2013-01-16 Thread john
of the site. Our intention is that http://stat.ripe.net/ will replace all functionality currently under www.ris.ripe.net. If RIPEstat doesn't provide the functionality you are looking for, please request it by emailing us at s...@ripe.net. Regards John

Re: Suggestions for the future on your web site: (was cookies, and before that Re: Dreamhost hijacking my prefix...)

2013-01-17 Thread john
On 1/16/13 8:36 PM, Shrdlu wrote: On 1/16/2013 9:40 AM, john wrote: I took a look at this site and unfortunately the use of cookies is very ingrained into the code. Removing the requirement breaks all functionality of www.ris.ripe.net and changing the functionality would require a rewrite

Re: ddos attack blog

2014-02-13 Thread John
on it again, maybe blocking UDP isn't all that bad. Would force the vendors to not 'hide' their protocol. --John Regards, CB

Re: ddos attack blog

2014-02-14 Thread John
On 02/13/2014 06:01 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:47 PM, John jsch...@flowtools.net wrote: snip UDP won't be blocked. There are some vendors that have their own hidden protocol inside UDP packets to control and communicate with their devices. Thinking on it again, maybe

Re: NTP DRDos Blog post

2014-02-20 Thread John
definitely on the operational security side here. I do generally prefer X reflection/amplification attack, as Roland suggested, as it is more specific. -John

Re: NTP DRDos Blog post

2014-02-20 Thread John
, but he used it in 2002: http://homes.cs.washington.edu/~arvind/cs425/doc/drdos.pdf. I read that in 2002, did other research about it in 2002, saw reflected attacks in 2002. Yes, I used DRDOS, too. -John

Re: where to go to understand DDoS attack vector

2014-08-26 Thread John
started using it. The best defense against current and yet-to-be-discovered IPMI vulnerabilities is to make sure that your IPMI devices are not open to the public internet, as Roland said. -John

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-20 Thread John
in an earlier rule, to pull out just the reflection traffic before resorting to the sledge. -John

Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks

2016-08-01 Thread John
On 2016-08-01 13:20, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > On 2016-07-31 05:46, Randy Bush wrote: >>> This is silly. Anyone is of course allowed to deny service to parties >>> involved in obvious criminal activity. >> so block cloudflare from your network and go back to work already. >> >> randy > I do

Re: Amazon network engineering contact? re: DDoS traffic

2018-11-08 Thread John
to mitigate or prevent them. -John On 11/8/2018 1:12 PM, Zach Puls wrote: Makes sense, that's understandable. Do you peer with AWS? If not, maybe opening up a peering agreement will give you a better contact, and a bit more pull when attacks occur? I know someone with a peering agreement

RE: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another

2010-05-20 Thread John Lee
filtering at any random point in time? These questions assume that you do not have a single transit provider that covers both of your locations in the two different regions and can custom route the packets. John (ISDN) Lee From: Net [funky...@gmail.com] Sent

Re: Hung Telnet Sessions on Sco Unix

2010-05-27 Thread John Peach
On Thu, 27 May 2010 21:26:27 +0200 Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: On 2010-05-27, at 20:47, jacob miller wrote: Am running an application on Sco Unix but am having the following problem. Application is hunging sporadically. That seems consistent with my memory of SCO Unix.

Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service

2010-06-12 Thread John Curran
. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN Begin forwarded message: From: Mark Kosters ma...@arin.net Date: June 11, 2010 3:17:49 PM EDT To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service Hi ARIN is making significant improvements to our systems

Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service

2010-06-12 Thread John Curran
john, today, a research batch script running periodic bulk whois work has a line something like ncftpget ftp://user:p...@ftp.arin.net/arin_db.txt.gz well, it can actually be simpler. for the web 9.3 impaired of us, could you describe the simple batch script line under the new

Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service

2010-06-12 Thread John Curran
! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

ATT's blue network SMS-SMTP off the air

2010-06-17 Thread John Todd
To those of you who may rely upon ATT to deliver your email-to-SMS messages for monitoring: some of you may be currently out of luck. I would just send this to the outa...@puck.nether.net list, but it does seem to be a meta-network failure in that for better or worse many of us use SMS

Re: Very Strange - TCP SWEEP Alerts / Inconsistent with traffic on system

2010-06-27 Thread John Kristoff
bit set. 1024 + 2048 = 3072. Therefore, syn-sport will only ever equal 1024 or 3072. Or in your case, it shows up as the dport on the way back. John

Re: Multicast Network Monitoring

2010-07-20 Thread John Kristoff
for something. John

RE: off-topic: summary on Internet traffic growth History

2010-08-11 Thread John Lee
produced the TNT line of modem/ISDN to Ethernet central site concentrators (in the early ninties) that drove a large portion of the user traffic to the Internet at the time, generating the bubble. John (ISDN) Lee From: Andrew Odlyzko [odly...@umn.edu] Sent

Re: Pacific Northwest downtime?

2010-08-13 Thread John A. Kilpatrick
Electric. I can confirm that HE is reachable from the University of Washington. Thanks, Ashoat -- John A. Kilpatrick j...@hypergeek.netEmail| http://www.hypergeek.net/ john-p...@hypergeek.net Text pages| ICQ: 19147504

Re: Pacific Northwest downtime?

2010-08-13 Thread John A. Kilpatrick
Logitech's servers. But since my mail server is at he.net that was the big thing I noticed. :) But of course, step one, reboot my modem...*sigh* -- John A. Kilpatrick j...@hypergeek.netEmail| http://www.hypergeek.net/ john-p...@hypergeek.net

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Levine
. ARIN says no, B hasn't shown that they need it 4. A and B say screw it, and B announces the space anyway 5. ??? R's, John

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
On Aug 13, 2010, at 2:15 PM, John R. Levine wrote: ... 10. ARIN attempts to allocate the /20 to someone else, who is not amused. Note that at this point ARIN presumably has no more v4 space left, so a threat never to allocate more space to A or B isn't very scary. Given its limited

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
but does another when it comes to routing. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
very difficult to obtain; how do you see it impacting the overall outcome? /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
order estimate for your second and third questions. % of space and % of holders, please I gave % of space in the April numbers above (the number of holders at that time was approximately 700 of estimated 18000) /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
On Aug 13, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Randy Bush wrote: thanks. but i meant when you report at meeting, on web site, whatever. please report both, not just the one with the larger number. Yes, will do. /John

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
it as a proposal? (and to answer Randy - the only control over the administration is based on the policies adopted. Reduce the corpus of applicable policy if that is your desire.) /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Levine
allocated it and doesn't want to give it back? My impression is that stolen space is all swamp or legacy or abandoned, but I really don't know. In case it's not obvious, I'm not advocating that people thumb their noses at ARIN, but I don't see any obvious way to avoid my scenario. R's, John

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
is per-RSA, and ARIN's action with this space is clearly governed by the policies adopted by the community. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
On Aug 13, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Vadim Antonov wrote: John - you do not get it... First of all, I don't want your organization to have ANY policy at all. Unfortunately, Vadim, even No Policy *is* a policy. Being just a title company for IP blocks is well and good - and can be easily done

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote: to make it easiest to understand, i might grind it up into /24 equivalents and present as percentages Acknowledged, /John

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
exchange, but you might want to seek counsel before trying such on a collective basis... /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
for the associated policy development process, public policy meetings, travel, conference calls. Quite a bit of savings available there, but the community first has to decide on permanent policy (or lack thereof :-) for that automated world before we can reap the savings. /John John Curran President and CEO

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
/index.html If you submit it, I will bring it to the Board for consideration. In fairness, I will tell you that I'll also recommend to the that we continue to pay for the travel for the Advisory Council, unless and until there is no need for a policy development process. /John

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
, and that's often in person and at the joint ARIN/NANOG meetings, etc. I can't speak to the strength of your arguments for eliminating travel, but I will carry them to the Board as well, if you use the suggestion process. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
. where the ISP turns out to be simply a purveyor of IP addresses to online marketing firms), and circumstances such as those are where reclamation is used. Does that clarify things? /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:00 AM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: John, I have privately e-mailed you 5 x /18 and 3 x /19 that are being abused. If ARIN takes action against even one of these allocations I will commend you publicly. I'll go do the investigation for you if you need evidence. I'm

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread John Curran
On Aug 14, 2010, at 12:32 AM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: John, I will concur with Randy that much of the travel that ARIN funds is excessive. ARIN has a booth at trade shows so i'm going to guess that entire setup with travel costs about $20,000 - 50,000 per show. Why? To convince me to use ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-14 Thread John Curran
as opposed to the nanog list. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread John Curran
the historical scrub will nearly guarantee instability. (Followups for this really should be to PPML.) /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread John Curran
section nine Seeking contractual rights contrary to IETF RFCs 2008 and 2150? as we say in our family, i smell cows. No comment. /John

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread John Curran
. Or you can enjoy the status quo. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN p.s. If you want to continue to discuss, can we shortly move this to PPML or ARIN-Discuss for the sake of those not interested in these matters who have different expectations from their NANOG list

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread John Curran
or the IETF as a way of bringing about the change you want based on community consensus (this is the Internet style of addressing it); feel free to add your choice of multinational organizations or governments if you want to more choices with different decision processes. /John John Curran President

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread John Curran
that it should include all resources, including those not currently being utilized, i.e. the phrase wasn't intended to exclude *utilized* resources from ARIN will take no action clause. I will have that fixed on the next version of the LRSA. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread John Curran
* resources from ARIN will take no action clause. I will have that fixed on the next version of the LRSA. but john, should you not run the change through the policy process? Randy - The language ARIN will take no action to reduce the services provided for Included Number Resources

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread John Curran
of improvements to the LRSA (version 2.0) added several circumstances that result in pre-contract status quo, and additional ones could be added if the community wants such and the Board concurs. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread John Curran
Policy Development Process. My apologies if this was somehow unclear, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread John Curran
process to remove the reference. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN Begin forwarded message: From: John Curran jcur...@arin.net Date: August 15, 2010 6:49:12 AM EDT To: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com Cc: North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Lightly

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-16 Thread John Curran
and conquer... I will confirm with the Board that that is the intent of the LRSA (which would then allow us to initiate the task of changing the language accordingly); can you submit this as a suggestion so that this request is not accidentally lost or overlooked? Thanks! /John John Curran

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-16 Thread John Curran
) /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-16 Thread John Curran
On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: John/Steve, Just me (we don't pay Steve to read Nanog, although I do forward him legalistic emails depending on content :-) Bill makes a reasonable point here. Is there a way to, in the next round of LRSA mods, include something to the effect

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-16 Thread John Curran
ISPs to have, even if never needed. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On Aug 16, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Joe Maimon jmai...@ttec.com wrote: ... Kind of interesting to consider how a successful implementation of RPKI might change the rules of this game we all play in. I tried talking

RE: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-16 Thread John Springer
. FWIW, I asked the same question. My guy was polite, but w/o info. John Springer

Re: Numbering nameservers and resolvers

2010-08-17 Thread John Kristoff
, which is unlikely, one can properly instrument diversity using a single origin ASN with multiple prefixes. Its the path and the prefix that matters, much less the ASN. John

Real ops talking to future ops

2010-08-23 Thread John Kristoff
not the only one saying to them before they interview circuit. Here's what things looked like last quarter to give you an idea of the general topics covered: http://condor.depaul.edu/~jkristof/tdc375/ Thanks, John

Re: Real ops talking to future ops

2010-08-23 Thread John Kristoff
sad about all the token ring experience I have that is slowly rotting to history with no one to pass it on to, but was a wow for me at the time. John

Re: Real ops talking to future ops

2010-08-24 Thread John Kristoff
. John

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-03 Thread John Levine
for other people. R's, John

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-09 Thread John Levine
solutions to *all* the ways spam is injected, and then there will be no more spam. Interesting guesses, but wrong. R's, John

Re: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency

2010-09-19 Thread John Gammons
deployment has it's own requirements and challenges to be considered. John On Saturday, September 18, 2010, Georges-Keny PAUL paulgk...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, My team is working on technical and technological specifications of a document for the deployment of Internet service on public

Re: Active Directory requires Microsoft DNS?

2010-09-20 Thread John Peach
that is already working. -- John

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-28 Thread John Peach
. It is on all Linux distros: ssmtp 465/tcp smtps # SMTP over SSL -- John

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread John Peach
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:13:51 +0200 Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It is on all Linux distros: ssmtp 465/tcp smtps # SMTP over SSL So file bug reports. With IANA? It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread John Peach
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:06:02 +0200 Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps, whatever else IANA might say. It's common knowledge that 465 *was* smtps. A decade ago. But it has never gone anywhere

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread John Peach
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:16:04 -0700 Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:10 AM, John Peach wrote: On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:06:02 +0200 Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps, whatever

Re: What must one do to avoid Gmail's retarded non-spam filtering?

2010-09-29 Thread John Levine
different DKIM signatures will do the trick. R's, John

Re: RIP Justification

2010-09-30 Thread John Kristoff
theory, history and implementations. John

Re: Using crypto auth for detecting corrupted IGP packets?

2010-10-01 Thread John Kristoff
that it was an artifact of the IOS code being run, which was an old 11.x train and the only one in the net at the time. John

Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time

2010-10-01 Thread John Curran
what else you suggest we do... could you elaborate here? /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

2010-10-01 Thread John Curran
with this problem? If you can suggest a straightforward way of vetting a new organization which the community will support, I'll happily have it implemented asap. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

2010-10-01 Thread John Curran
policy. /John On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:12 PM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Christopher Morrow Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 7:46 AM To: Rich Kulawiec Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked? this is still less than a /8, which

Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time

2010-10-01 Thread John Curran
is issued to an entity and that entity no longer exists, those resources should be reclaimed by the community within some reasonable amount of time Agreed, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time (more re: recovered resources)

2010-10-01 Thread John Curran
On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:43 PM, John Curran wrote: Resources being used by actual defunct organizations we will reclaim if reported. Folks - It occurred to me that I could have been clearer, so here I am replying to myself... When we at ARIN can readily determine that an organization

Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time (more re: recovered resources)

2010-10-01 Thread John Springer
Thanks John, On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, John Curran wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:43 PM, John Curran wrote: Resources being used by actual defunct organizations we will reclaim if reported. Folks - It occurred to me that I could have been clearer, so here I am replying to myself... When we

Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resource routing no)

2010-10-01 Thread John Curran
suggest such a policy if you feel strongly about this; the process to to so is shown here: https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp_appendix_b.html /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: ARIN IP/AS Assignment

2010-10-02 Thread John Curran
the business name. ARIN's much more rigid about that sort of thing than any other supplier you'll ever deal with. The compliment is received and appreciated. :-) /John

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

2010-10-02 Thread John Curran
surviving entity to contact. Many parties abandon these transfers mid-process, leaving us to wonder whether they were exactly as claimed but simply lacking needed documentation, or whether they were optimistic attempts to hijack. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked? (ARIN region hijacking)

2010-10-02 Thread John Curran
any policy which adopted by the community. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN P.S. I will note that we fully have the potential to recreate this problem in IPv6 if we're not careful, and establishing some very clear record keeping requirements for IPv6 with both RIRs and ISPs

Re: NEVERMIND! (was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... )

2010-10-03 Thread John Curran
hostmas...@arin.net. YESSS! This is exactly the kind of thing I have been asking for! But more to the point, this is the exact kind of thing that (very bizzarely) John Curran just told me that he would accept as, in effect, and enhancement request... AS IF IT DIDN'T ALREADY EXIST

Re: NEVERMIND! (was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... )

2010-10-03 Thread John Curran
. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: NEVERMIND! (was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... )

2010-10-03 Thread John Curran
) at automating this process of marking resource blocks with no valid contacts as an inherent part of the new automated POC verification process. /John John Curran President CEO ARIN

Re: do you use SPF TXT RRs? (RFC4408)

2010-10-04 Thread John Adams
Without proper SPF records your mail stands little chance of making it through some of the larger providers, like gmail, if you are sending in any high volume. You should be using SPF, DK, and DKIM signing. I don't really understand how your security company related SPF to DoS though. They're

Re: do you use SPF TXT RRs? (RFC4408)

2010-10-04 Thread John Adams
AM, John Adams wrote: Without proper SPF records your mail stands little chance of making it through some of the larger providers, like gmail, if you are sending in any high volume. You should be using SPF, DK, and DKIM signing. There should really be no reason to sign with DK too. It's

Re: Whois lookups (was: 2010.10.04 NANOG50 day 1 morning notes posted)

2010-10-04 Thread John Curran
presentation slide for the exact query rate graph, but we're handling orders of magnitude more queries at present. /John

Re: AS6517 - Reliance Globalcom -- routing three more hijacked blocks - bulk Whois

2010-10-07 Thread John Curran
://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/index.html FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Internet in DPRK / North Korea

2010-10-10 Thread John Levine
Perm connection from China Netcom? Does anybody have any more info about this? http://175.45.179.68/ R's, John

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread John Adams
Really the best thing to do is to just leave SORBS alone. The more idiotic bans they put into place with demands for $50 per IP per incident, the less trustworthy of an RBL they become. Most large network operations will end up ignoring them, or if they do use the data from their RBL, they will

Vote Now for the ARIN 2010 Board and AC Elections

2010-10-13 Thread John Curran
for reference. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN --- Begin forwarded message: From: ARIN i...@arin.netmailto:i...@arin.net Date: October 13, 2010 11:17:36 AM EDT To: arin-annou...@arin.netmailto:arin-annou...@arin.net Subject: [arin-announce] Vote Now for the 2010 Board and AC Elections

Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption - Sparse IPv6 allocation

2010-10-18 Thread John Curran
approach and it was requested by the community during the ARIN/NANOG Dearborn meeting. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption - Sparse IPv6 allocation

2010-10-18 Thread John Curran
a /29, can request a new block. Obviously, this can be changed if the community wishes it so. Bring any obvious suggestions to the ARIN suggestion process, and anything which might be contentious or affect allocations to the policy process. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread John Curran
FYI, /John https://www.arin.net/announcements/2010/20101020.html Posted: Wednesday, 20 October 2010 ARIN today recognizes Interop, an organization with a long-standing presence in the Internet industry, for returning its unneeded Internet Protocol version 4 (IPv4) address space

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread John Curran
is still under discussion. So, there's no way to know if there's a global policy which would allow the space to be returned to the IANA, but I'm optimistic... /John

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread John Curran
On Oct 20, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: Thank you Interop - for performing an outstanding act of altruism. John, could you provide more details at this stage on how much address space was returned to ARIN? INTEROP is retaining 2 /16 blocks for existing usage; i.e. more than 99

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread John Curran
On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: Thank you Interop - for performing an outstanding act of altruism. John, could you provide more details at this stage on how much address space was returned to ARIN

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread John Curran
) won't change the IPv4 depletion/IPv6 deployment timeline substantially, but it's also true we have folks who are just now realizing IPv4 depletion is happening and returned address space may make the difference for those who need just a bit more time... /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread John Curran
of improved utilization for returned space is less space which is sitting idle and available to be hijacked. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread John Curran
On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: yes, sorry.. since this was returned to ARIN, I assumed the ARIN region drain rate. Ah, good point. It may end up in the global pool, so comparison to either drain rate is quite reasonable. /John

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread John Curran
are followed. STLS to me is kind of double speak, ARIN says: this isn't a capital resource, but yet if you go through us and list your 'unused' blocks in this space, we don't care what financial transaction happens behind the scenes. Maybe John can shed more light on this. Specified Transfer Listing

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread John Curran
being able to return the space, but overall the community recommended proceeding because the benefit to overall utilization was deemed worthwhile. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

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