Re: Contact mail for Weekly Global Routing Table Report has ended up on Spamhaus HBL

ke. But no need, I did that a few hours ago and it's fixed. I expect it wasn't exactly a false positive, someone with an odd sense of humor probably put your address as a hashbuster in a spam run or something like that, but I pointed to RFC 9324 as an example of why it would be a good idea n

Re: Out-of-Bailiwick DNS? (Was: HE.net problem)

Particularly if they don’t allow downgrade attacks to CA certs. > >I think there are a few more brands looking to make this move to higher >security in the new ngTLD round. At least everybody’s a lot >more educated this time around. I dunno, if they were better educated they'

Re: Out-of-Bailiwick DNS? (Was: HE.net problem)

It appears that Bill Woodcock said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >> On Jul 6, 2024, at 22:11, John Von Essen wrote: >> I saw something online that said $250,000 but that didn’t make sense if its >> all paperwork. > >Heh. I see you are unfamiliar with ICANN. They’ve said that same paperwork >is likely to c

Re: getting the memo, Out-of-Bailiwick DNS? (Was: HE.net problem)

According to Jay R. Ashworth : >data I heard that that *was* a registry-side hold (and hence it didn't matter >that it was NetSol). Or perhaps that NetSol was still the registry for .net -- >that's out of date now, isn't it? Uh, yeah, Verisign spun off the NetSol registrar over 20 years ago in la

Re: TLD jingle mail, Out-of-Bailiwick DNS? (Was: HE.net problem)

It appears that Bill Woodcock said: >ICANN’s going to open another round of TLD applications, and I expect a lot of >companies to go into that with their eyes more >open than last time, knowing why they’re doing it. It’s not about brand >protection, it’s about disintermediating the root >of tru

Re: HE.net problem

It appears that Reid Fishler via NANOG said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Network Solutions has decided to put our domain name on Client Hold due to >a single phishing complaint about a web page, which happens to just be a >page of information about another domain from bgp.he.net. Network Solutions >has been c

Re: 600,000 routers bricked

It appears that Robert Jacobs said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >If you do a bit more digging the ISP is not Lumen ... It is a well known ISP It's Windstream. and I recall reading about this >outage when it happened. I don’t know if indeed this was a botched attempt to >gather a bot network or like >some

Re: Correcting national address databases?

od reasons cannot be a PO Box. You should move to New York. My NY license has always had my PO Box and no other address. I do have a street address, and the PO does deliver there, but it's not on my license. -- Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

Re: who runs the root, Cogent-TATA peering dispute?

It appears that Bryan Fields said: >Suppose the community wanted to change this or make a formal policy on root >server hosting requirements. Where would this be done? Could a party submit >a proposal to ICANN via the policy development process? If not where should >the community start this? T

Re: Cogent-TATA peering dispute?

It appears that William Herrin said: >I don't understand why Cogent is allowed to operate one of the root >servers. Doesn't ICANN do any kind of technical background check on >companies when letting the contract? You must be new here. There is no contract for running root servers and never has be

Re: Should FCC look at SS7 vulnerabilities or BGP vulnerabilities

It appears that Brandon Martin said: >I think the issue with their lack of effectiveness on spam calls is due >to the comparatively small number of players in the PSTN (speaking of >both classic TDM and modern IP voice-carrying and signaling networks) >world allowing lots of regulatory capture.

Re: Mailing list SPF Failure

It appears that Michael Thomas said: >On 5/16/24 8:11 AM, Peter Potvin via NANOG wrote: >> Appears there’s no SPF record at all now for nanog.org >> , which is not ideal… > >Since probably 99% of the mail from NANOG is through this list, it >hardly matters since SPF will always

Re: Help with removing DNS shinkhole FP from Charter/Spectrum

It appears that William Herrin said: >On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 6:21 PM Validin Axon wrote: >> Looking for some help/advice. Spectrum is sinkholing my company's domain, >> validin[.]com, to 127.0.0.54. > >Howdy, > >If you can't reach a technical POC, use the legal one. Your lawyer can >find the ap

Anyone got a contact at OpenAI. They have a spider problem.

As I think I have mentioned before, I have the world's lamest content farm at https://www.web.sp.am/. Click on a link or two and you'll get the idea. Unfortunately, GPTBot has found it and has not gotten the idea. It has fetched over 3 million pages today. Before someone tells me to fix my robots

Re: Microsoft missing public DNS TXT entry for DKIM records (msn.com)

It appears that Adam Brenner via NANOG said: >mail server. Our mail server checks if DKIM email headers are present >and if they are, tries to validate them. If the check fails, we reject >the message. MSN's setup is broken but let me strongly reiterate the advice DON'T DO THAT. If a DKIM sign

Who is security-research.org ?

I noticed them in my DNS logs, trying to do AXFRs of random zones I host. The probes are coming from Hetzner, a low-cost German hosting provider with a history of tolerating dodgy customer behavior. Their website, which is hosted at Vultr, airly assures us it's nothing personal, they scan ever

Re: DNSSEC & WIldcards

It appears that Niels Bakker said: >* nanog@nanog.org (Dennis Burgess via NANOG) [Fri 15 Mar 2024, 16:26 CET]: >>So have *.app.linktechs.net that I have been trying to get to work, >>we have DNSSEC on this, and its failing, but cannot for the life of >>me understand why. I think it may have som

Re: registry for onmicrosoft[dot]com

It appears that Sean Donelan said: > >Microsoft's corporate email systems appear to silently drop email from >small domains (like mine). It can't be that simple -- I have some tiny domains and correspond with Microsoft employees all the time. R's, John

Re: IPv6 uptake

It appears that Nick Hilliard said: >full control of all modems and they're all relatively recent, properly >supported units, fully managed by the cable operator. If you start >adding poor quality cheap units into the mix, it can cause service problems. The cablecos I've dealt with have a list

Re: IPv6 mail The Reg does 240/4

It appears that Michael Thomas said: >I kind of get the impression that once you get to aggregates at the >domain level like DKIM or SPF, addresses as a reputation vehicle don't >much figure into decision making. It definitely does, since there are plenty of IPs that send only malicious mail, o

Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

It appears that William Herrin said: >Now suppose I have a firewall at 199.33.225.1 with an internal network >of 192.168.55.0/24. Inside the network on 192.168.55.4 I have a switch >that accepts telnet connections with a user/password of admin/admin. >On the firewall, I program it to do NAT transl

Re: The Reg does 240/4

It appears that Mike Hammett said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >" Does any IPv6 enabled ISP provide PTR records for mail servers?" > > >I think people will conflate doing so at ISP-scale and doing so at residential >hobbiyst scale (and everything in between). One would >expect differences in outcomes of atte

Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

It appears that Stephen Satchell said: >Several people in NANOG have opined that there are a number of mail >servers on the Internet operating with IPv6 addresses. OK. I have a >mail server, which has been on the Internet for decades. On IPv4. > >For the last four years, every attempt to get

Re: mail and IPv6, not The Reg does 240/4

It appears that Stephen Satchell said: >On 2/14/24 4:23 PM, Tom Samplonius wrote: >> The best option is what is happening right now: you can’t get new IPv4 >> addresses, so you have to either buy them, or use IPv6. The free market >> is solving the problem right now. Another solution isn’t ne

Re: The Reg does 240/4

It appears that William Herrin said: >On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 9:23 AM Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: >> Think how many more sites could have IPv6 capability already if this wasted >> effort had been put into that, instead. > >"Zero-sum bias is a cognitive bias towards zero-sum thinking; Well, OK

Re: Anyone have contacts at the Amazon or OpenAI web spiders?

o late. Most spiders can take the hint that they're all on the same IP. But not these two. R's, John > >On Feb 13, 2024, at 8:35 PM, John Levine wrote: >> >> One day I set up the world's lamest content farm. You can see it here: >> >> https://w

Anyone have contacts at the Amazon or OpenAI web spiders?

One day I set up the world's lamest content farm. You can see it here: https://www.web.sp.am/ While humans tend not to find its six billion pages very interesting, some web spiders are entranced. In the past week or so, Amazon's amazonbot has visited it 6 million times, and OpenAI's gptbot 2.6 mi

Re: Enough of The Reg does 240/4

It appears that Tom Beecher said: >> We aren't trying to have a debate on this. All we can do is present our >> case, explain our reasons and hope that we can gain a consensus from the >> community. > >Respectfully, if you're just putting your case out there and hoping that >people come around to

Re: The Reg does 240/4

It appears that Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) said: >And what are they going to do when 240/4 runs out? That will be a hundred years from now, so who cares? R's, John PS: I know this because it will take 98 years of process before the RIRs can start allocating it.

Re: Diversity in threading, Diversity of MUAs (was Re: How threading works

It appears that Peter Potvin via NANOG said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >*audible sigh* > >Yet another useless thread added to my Gmail inbox because of a changed >subject line. > >Can we please stop doing this for conversations that are about the same >topic? I don't think the rest of us are obliged to arr

Re: classic mail, was Vint Cerf Re: Backward Compatibility Re: IPv4 address block

It appears that Randy Bush said: >> Some of us still use pine$B!D(B > >i thought most pine users had moved to mutt Some, but pine (now called alpine) is still actively maintained and does some things better than mutt, particularly if you want to keep track of multiple inboxes on different serve

What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

At contacts.abuse.net, I have a little stunt DNS server that provides domain contact info, e.g.: $ host -t txt comcast.net.contacts.abuse.net comcast.net.contacts.abuse.net descriptive text "ab...@comcast.net" $ host -t hinfo comcast.net.contacts.abuse.net comcast.net.contacts.abuse.net host inf

Re: .US Harbors Prolific Malicious Link Shortening Service

It appears that Eric Kuhnke said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >I've seen a US based ISP do its internal management network reverse DNS >using '.us' as a suffix, where the hierarchy is like POP name, then >city/airport code, then state (eg: CA, NJ, FL), then .us for geographical >location of equipment in USA.

Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

It appears that said: >* Owen DeLong [Sat 28 Oct 2023, 01:00 CEST]: >>If it’s such a reasonable default, why don’t any of the public >>resolvers (e.g. 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8, 9.9.9.9, etc.) do so? > >It's generally a service that's offered for money. Quad9 definitely >offer it: https://www.quad9.net/

Re: [EXTERNAL] DNS filtering in practice, Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

It appears that Michael Thomas said: >> If you're one of the small minority of retail users that knows enough >> about the technology to pick your own resolver, go ahead. But it's >> a reasonable default to keep malware out of Grandma's iPad. > >How does this line up with DoH? Aren't they using h

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

It appears that Bryan Fields said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- >On 10/27/23 7:49 AM, John Levine wrote: >> But for obvious good reasons, >> the vast majority of their customers don't > >I'd argue that as a service provider deliberately messing with DNS is an

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

According to Bryan Fields : >On 10/25/23 4:58 PM, Compton, Rich A wrote: >> Charter uses threat intel from Akamai to block certain "malicious" domains. > >Does charter do this on signed domains too? Of course. If you want to run your own DNSSEC resolver and bypass their malware protection, you ar

Re: Charter DNS servers returning invalid IP addresses

It appears that J. Hellenthal via NANOG said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Maybe the site "has/had" a shopping cart infection at one point that has been >found and eradicated at one point ? Virustotal reported it four days ago, which suggests that whatever was wrong with it is still wrong with it, The usual

Re: it's mailman time again

It appears that Aaron de Bruyn via NANOG said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >I donno Rich...a couple of decades ago I lost my Slashdot account because >someone was able to access it. >I used the password in two places...Slashdot and all the blasted mailman >instances I was signed up with. I can believe that

Re: it's mailman time again

It appears that Rich Kulawiec said: >On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 10:16:05AM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: >> and i just have to wonder about sending passords over the net in >> cleartext in 2023. really? > >This is a non-issue. It's like changing your password, it sort of made sense in the 1980s when net

Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire

e on Maui, about the same as Salinas CA, but separated from the rest of the world by a lot of water. -- Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

Re: Historical info on how 'x.com' came to be registered

It appears that Drew Weaver said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Does anyone have any historical information on how 'x.com' came to be >registered even though single letters were reserved? > >Is there a story or is it as simple as it was registered prior to the >reservation? Here's a story about its history.

Re: whois server

It appears that Matt Corallo said: >But, like they say, modern whois knows where to look, no need to use anything >else, I think as long >as you're not stuck trying to use macOS or something else shipping weird >ancient un-updated unix tools. If you're inclined to roll your own, I keep a set o

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

It appears that Michael Thomas said: > >On 6/26/23 6:06 PM, Ron Yokubaitis wrote: >> Dalles: government subsidized Hydroelectric Power, that’s why. > >Well that maybe, but electric rates are hella cheap in Oregon regardless. Well, yeah, that's what he said although I would argue about the subsidy

Re: Treasurydirect.gov unreachable over IPv6?

It appears that holow29 said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Is anyone able to reach treasurydirect.gov over IPv6? Unable to do so over >Verizon Fios, and I'm not sure if it is a routing issue or an issue on >Treasury's end. Works fine via a HE tunnel. R's, John

Is malicious asymmetrical routing still a thing?

Back in the olden days, a spammer would set up a server with a fast broadband connection and a dialup connection, and send out lots of spam over the broadband connection using the dialup's IP address. Since mail traffic is quite asymmetric, this got them most of the broadband speed, and when the d

Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

It appears that Chris J. Ruschmann said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >How do you plan on getting rid of all the filters that don’t accept anything >less than a /24? > >In all seriousness If I have these, I’d imagine everyone else does too. Right. Since the Internet has no settlements, there is no way to persua

Re: txt.att.net outage?

It appears that Simmons, Jay via NANOG said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >This may be the issue Sorry, but no. >Here are some details on this Government protocol implemented by all Telecom >Carriers. > >Why it is being done? To support FCC mandate for STIR/SHAKEN, an industry set >of rules designed to authen

Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls)

It appears that Matthew Black said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >This might have been what I read years ago: > >Teltech Systems Inc. v. Bryant, 5th Cir., No. 12-60027 No, that just said that federal law preempts a Mississippi state law that purported to regulate Caller ID. The federal law in 47 USC 227(e) says

Re: U.S. Court PACER system overloaded by public interest

It appears that Jeffrey Ollie said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Anyone that regularly uses PACER should absolutely be using >https://www.courtlistener.com/. And the RECAP browser plugin, which both looks in courtlistener for you, and uploads copies to it when you do a PACER download. (The actual documents ar

Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond...

>> > General press loses its *mind*: No more than usual. They're just rewriting this Facebook blog post: https://engineering.fb.com/2022/07/25/production-engineering/its-time-to-leave-the-leap-second-in-the-past/ It appears that Forrest Christian (List Account) said: >Personally I'd like to se

Re: NANOG List posts and DMARC

It appears that Jared Mauch said: >Can someone flip the option in Mailman for DMARC please, it’s problematic as >if one posts and does DMARC and has feedback on, our >messages are possibly rejected, and the feedback from a post is quite large. I checked with Jared and he seems to misunderstand

Re: NANOG List posts and DMARC

It appears that Michael Thomas via NANOG said: > >On 8/2/22 12:30 PM, Jim Popovitch via NANOG wrote: >> It's been doing it for ages for p=reject, but not p=none (the latter >> being Jared's situation) I don't understand Jared's concern. His DMARC policy, like mine, is p=none which tells receiver

Re: Sigh, friends don't let politicians write tech laws

It appears that Michael Thomas said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > > >https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/4409/text?r=9&s=1 > >the body of the proposed law: This bill was filed by a bunch of the usual right wing suspects about a month ago. It was referred to committee, like all filed bills

Re: ICANN

It appears that Keith Medcalf said: > >Does anyone have contact information (or address for service of legal >documents) for ICANN? There web site does not appear to contain contact >information. If you really wish to send such a letter, I would send it by paper mail, attn General Counsel. Thei

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

It appears that Eric Kuhnke said: >Adding a terrestrial transmitter source mounted on towers and with CPEs >that stomps on the same frequencies as the last 20 years of existing two >way VSAT terminals throughout the US seems like a bad idea. Even if you >ignore the existence of Starlink, there's a

Re: FCC vs FAA Story

It appears that Miles Fidelman said: >> Harold Feld did a much better job in November: >> >> https://wetmachine.com/tales-of-the-sausage-factory/what-the-eff-faa-my-insanely-long-field-guide-to-the-faa-fcc-5g-c-band-fight/ >Well... a bit better look at the politics & motivations of the folks >inv

Re: FCC vs FAA Story

It appears that Crist Clark said: >ProPublica published an investigative report on it last week, > >https://www.propublica.org/article/fcc-faa-5g-planes-trump-biden > >Whaddya know. Plenty of blame to go around. Government regulative bodies >captured by the industries they’re supposed to regulate.

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

It appears that Owen DeLong via NANOG said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >Forgive me if I have little or no sympathy for them. The laws of physics make it rather difficult to provide symmetrical speeds on shared media like coax or cellular radio. As wired networks move to all fiber they'll get more symmetrical

Re: Question re prevention of enumeration with DNSSEC (NSEC3, etc.)

It appears that Rubens Kuhl said: >> It's perfectly reasonable to claim a database right in the WHOIS data, >> but the offense is scraping WHOIS, not enumerating the DNS zone. ... >The zone file could be seen as an accessory to the database rip-off. >For instance, it would be hard to see such a d

Re: Re: 10 Do's + Don'ts for Visiting Québec + Register Now for N85!

It appears that Laura Smith via NANOG said: > >--- Original Message --- >On Friday, May 6th, 2022 at 13:59, J EMail <70ford...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> poutine should be on this list. > >God no !  >There are many great things about Canada and Québec but poutine most >certainly is not.

Re: Question re prevention of enumeration with DNSSEC (NSEC3, etc.)

It appears that Ray Bellis said: > >> Is there any case law where someone has asserted a database right for a DNS >> zone? > >> It seems like a rather stupid thing to do. If someone asserted such a >> right, I would make sure not to infringe it by ensuring no entries >> from that database entered

Re: Question re prevention of enumeration with DNSSEC (NSEC3, etc.)

It appears that Ray Bellis said: >> On March 27, 1991, in a case that transformed the nascent online database >> publishing industry, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that there is no >copyright protection for purely factual products such as a telephone directory >white pages. > >I wasn’t ta

Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services

It appears that Joe Greco said: >While the issue of domains being confiscated and being handed over to a >prevailing plaintiff for an international domain with no obvious nexus >to the United States ... Most of the domains do have US nexus. Two are in .TV, one in .COM, both run by Verisign, one i

Re: antique CGN complaints, was V6 still not supported

It appears that JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG said: >Related to the LEA agencies and CGN: > >https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/are-you-sharing-same-ip-address-criminal-law-enforcement-call-for-end-of-carrier-grade-nat-cgn-to-increase-accountability-online Before we freak o

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mork.no; s=b; >>> t=1649009809; bh=ZByFGHIiZPQYmJjQnCv16CXFZhKG8U3fTayR+Mx3piY=; >>> h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:Message-ID:From; >>> b=NB0BT8EzJBl2E3jzDaz7QY4C/utMGKFF+HCs8qjQFoHA4JHTD21ZkTk34jp2VOiJ0 >>> pYWHUNXCN

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

sinesses large and small. I agree that they are stricter than many others at mail authentication but considering how big they are, they do a very good job of doing what the standards say. Way better than Y**o* ot M*o**. R's, John -- Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Per

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

It appears that Michael Thomas said: >> ARC lets the recipient system look back and do what we might call >> retroactive filtering, using info about messages as they arrived at >> the previous forwarder. While it would be nice if lists did a better >> job of spam filtering, they don't, and ARC is

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email from poorly configured senders

It appears that Niels Bakker said: >I also run my own mail server. I had to firewall off Google's MXes for >this exact reason: silent and not-so-silent email rejection when >offered over IPv6. I run my own mail server and have no trouble at all delivering mail to Gmail over IPv6. I do have SPF

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

It appears that Michael Thomas said: >> Google at least adds ARC headers in Gmail, and did the editing of RFC8617. > >ARC resolves into a previously unsolved problem: reputation. ... No, actually it doesn't, as has been repeatedly explained. ARC addreses the problem that mailing lists do a lousy

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

It appears that Michael Thomas said: >> There are a lot of bits and bobs that one has to get right for mail to flow, >> amongst which: >> >> - IP -> PTR lookup -> that hostname lookup, and match to IP again >> - SPF >> - DKIM >> - DMARC Yup. Gmail has made it quite clear that they will

Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported

that the ULAs will overlap. -- Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

Re: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported)

It appears that JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG said: >At the end, if you turn on IPv6 to residential customers, typically you will >get 70-80% IPv6 traffic, so the state in the NAT64 using 464XLAT is lower and >lower every day. Not disagreeing, but where does that number come from? Anectodall

Re: Bufferbloat and the pandemic was: V6 still not supported

It appears that Michael Thomas said: >anything that ISP can do if they don't supply the ÇPE? What percentage >of providers do supply the CPE in the form of cable and dsl modems, etc, >that they could solve the problem with a swap out? In the US at least, although cable customers can use their o

Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock Re: 202203151549.AYC

It appears that Abraham Y. Chen said: >     C.    Recently, we were made aware of the Int-Area activities. >Attempts to reach the Group Chairs have not received any responses. > >     D.    I just received an Int-Area Digest Vol 199, Issue 14 >requesting IETF to reactivate the IPv4 support. For

Re: V6 still not supported

It appears that Matt Hoppes said: >Just like with IPv6, there would be a transition period, but during that >time software updates would very easily bring equipment up to spec much >faster and quicker. > >Eventually, 192.168.0.1 would be represented (for example) as >0.0.0.0.192.168.0.1 (or som

Re: V6 still not supported

It appears that Matt Hoppes said: >At this point I would *love* to see IPv4 get extended, a software patch >applied to devices, and IPv6 die a quick painless death. The people at the IETF may be shortsighted, but not *that* shortsighted. If adding 16 more /8's would have been enough, they would

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

It appears that Jerry Cloe said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense >to leave them at sea if you could put a router there. > >First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them? Undersea cables have had power for repeaters since T

Re: "Permanent" DST

It appears that Chris Adams said: >Once upon a time, Owen DeLong said: >> You’re right… Two changes to a single file in most cases: >> >> 1. Set the correct new timezone (e.g. MST for California). > >And now your system displays wrong info 100% of the time, since as I >understand it, the zones

Re: "Permanent" DST

It appears that Jay Hennigan said: >Some systems are dumbed-down with drop-down menus listing cities like >"Americas-Los Angeles" and similar. These will require a bit of work on >the back end. Unix and linux systems have a timezone database that has the historic time zones for everywhere they

Re: "Permanent" DST

It appears that Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG said: >All that's left to solve is in-person stuff...which already currently sucks. > >"My flight leaves at 6 AM local time and lasts 90 minutes, but I'm crossing >3 timezones heading west... It could be worse. In non-COVID times there are flights betw

Re: "Permanent" DST

It appears that Mel Beckman said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >We already have this problem with Arizona, which never changes time for the >summer. Sure it does. It switches from MST to PDT. Helpfully, John

Re: Not Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock

It appears that Joe Maimon said: >Saku Ytti wrote: >> What if many/most large CDN, cloud, tier1 would commonly announce a >> plan to drop all IPv4 at their edge 20 years from now? How would that >> change our work? What would we stop doing and what would we start doing? > >I cant see how it wou

Re: V6 still widely supported (was Re: CC: s to Non List Members,

It appears that Joe Maimon said: >higher penetration of native v6, I would restate that a bit more >conservatively as > >Google's statistics are likely a fair barometer for USA usage in the >large content provider arena which have a strong mobile representation. AT&T, Comcast, and Charter/Spect

Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock

It appears that David Conrad said: >isn’t very far), 240/4 isn’t sourcing or sinking significant traffic on the >Internet. FWIW, my tiny server sees about 20 packets/day from that range. It's not very much but it's hard to imagine why I'm seeing any at all. It's more than I see from 0/8, less

Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock

It appears that David Conrad said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >On Mar 9, 2022, at 10:08 AM, John R. Levine wrote: >> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022, John Gilmore wrote: >>> Major networks are already squatting on the space internally, because they >>> tried it and it works. >> Sounds like an excellent reason not to try

Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock)

It appears that William Herrin said: >On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:34 PM John Levine wrote: >> FWIW, I also don't think that repurposing 240/4 is a good idea. To be >> useful it would require >> that every host on the Internet update its network stack, > >

Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock)

It appears that Anne Mitchell said: >> Cc: NANOG , Greg Skinner , >> "Karandikar, Abhay" , Rama Ati >, Bob Corner GMAIL , "Hsing, T. >Russell" , "Chen, Henry C.J." >, ST Hsieh , "Chen, Abraham Y." > >> > >This is a whole lot of cc:s to people who aren't even part of this group/list. > One won

Re: Ukraine request yikes

It appears that Carsten Bormann said: >On 2. Mar 2022, at 17:38, wrote: >> >> “democracy” > >PSA: Please read > >https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/peacefield/6206c37b9d9e380022bed32f/is-it-fascism-is-it-socialism/ > >before using words like this again. Nice article, definitely worth reading.

Re: Ukraine request yikes

#x27;s quite common. See RFC 8806. I run local roots on my small networks. R's, John -- Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

Re: Slack.com DNSSEC on Feb 12th 15: 00 UTC

Bj�rn Mork wrote: >> >>> >>> I assume you know which names you are going to serve? >>> >>> >> how would they be able to serve: >> footgun.slack.com >> bjornbjorn.slack.com >> ilovecorn.slack.com >> >> so immediately

Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile?

It appears that Michael Thomas said: >Didn't Netflix for the longest time run on AWS? They still do. Their web site and the non-realtime stuff is at AWS, the streaming they do themselves. R's, John

Re: Coverage of the .to internet outage

It appears that Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG said: >> If you're a small pacific island nation state with a limited budget, and a >> working submarine cable, maintaining a SCPC geostationary satellite service >> that might be $20,000 a month (on 36-60 month term) in transponder kHz may >> seem like

Re: What do you think about this airline vs 5G brouhaha?

It appears that Michael Thomas said: > >I really don't know anything about it. It seems really late to be having >this fight now, right? Harold Feld did an excellent explainer about this in November: https://wetmachine.com/tales-of-the-sausage-factory/what-the-eff-faa-my-insanely-long-field-gui

Re: home router battery backup

It appears that Shawn L via NANOG said: >In $dayjob I work for a telco that deploys fiber to the home. If we are > providing voice services over fiber a battery backup is installed (we main >tain) that powers the customer's phone in the event of a power outage. I have fiber service from my loc

Re: .bv ccTLD

It appears that Jay R. Ashworth said: >- Original Message - >> From: "Jaap Akkerhuis" > >> Similar ideas where held for MD and TM but didn'y seem to work >> out. Furthermore, an indepent Bougainville mighs change the name >> to something else (as Zimbabwe did). > >On reflection, I don't t

Re: .bv ccTLD

It appears that Jay R. Ashworth said: >Well, sure, but with the copper deposit measured in double-digit billions, >it seems sane to assume they've got a plan there... It's been 30 years. We can hope but I wouldn't hold my breath. >Though given .TV's benefits to Tuvalu, and the number of Scanda

Re: .bv ccTLD

According to Jay R. Ashworth : >- Original Message - >> From: "John Levine" > >> There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from. GV or UV perhaps? > >I'm sure *I* would fight for a 3166 code that started with the first letter >of m

Re: .bv ccTLD

It appears that David Conrad said: >> Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat? :-) > >Even if they did, transitioning codes is a long (99 year? I’ve forgotten) >process… It's only 50, but yeah, it's not changing any time soon. There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from. GV or UV perh

Re: fun with TLDs and captive portals was, Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public

It appears that Francis Booth via NANOG said: >So we know RFC 2606 defined reserved TLDs like .lan and .home so there Um, this must be a different RFC 2606 than the one the rest of us have read. It mentions neither .lan nor .home. >In order to solve the chicken/egg problem of having to know your

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