Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-10-12 Thread Daniel Seagraves
> On Oct 12, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > How exactly is it punishment that BGP needs an AS number? It’s not. I was objecting to the implication that if someone announces a prefix that has not been transferred to their ownership it is fraudulent or shady, and as a consequence

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-10-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/11/19 07:16, Daniel Seagraves wrote: This should not be just a “nitpick". AT&T announces our extremely legacy ARIN allocation for us because we do not qualify to have an ASN, but I absolutely did not, will not, and*have actively resisted attempts to* transfer the block to them. I would

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-10-11 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 7:16 AM Daniel Seagraves < dseag...@humancapitaldev.com> wrote: > > On Oct 11, 2019, at 6:28 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer > wrote: > > > > I nitpick, but "never transferred the block" is not the same thing as > > "never authorized Cogent to announce it”. > > This should not be

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-10-11 Thread Daniel Seagraves
> On Oct 11, 2019, at 6:28 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > I nitpick, but "never transferred the block" is not the same thing as > "never authorized Cogent to announce it”. This should not be just a “nitpick". AT&T announces our extremely legacy ARIN allocation for us because we do not quali

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-10-11 Thread Masataka Ohta
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 08:14:00PM +0900, Masataka Ohta wrote a message of 34 lines which said: they said they have never transferred the block So, RADB entry: ... route: 146.51.0.0/16 origin: AS174 ... is confirmed to be registrat

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-10-11 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 08:14:00PM +0900, Masataka Ohta wrote a message of 34 lines which said: > they said they have never transferred the block > So, RADB entry: ... > route: 146.51.0.0/16 > origin: AS174 ... > is confirmed to be registration fraud. I nitpick, but "nev

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-10-11 Thread Masataka Ohta
As I wrote: 143.136.0.0/16 143.253.0.0/16 146.51.0.0/16 I tried to make contact myself with the legit owners of all of the above, but found it to be quite difficult.  The registered owner of the first one appears to have gone into hiding on a remote island someplace. Both relo

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-18 Thread Masataka Ohta
Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: To me: notify: tmiy...@gaijin.co.jp merely suggest miyoko has some relationships with gaijin (foreigners), which is partly why I guess: www.ffei.co.uk is the owner. Masataka Ohta

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-18 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <152f0dbc-f7af-2a78-c5a7-f2062effe...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>, Masataka Ohta wrote: > From whois information: > >remarks:reg-date:1993-03-22 > >notify: tmiy...@gaijin.co.jp I already talked to the guy who has o

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-17 Thread Masataka Ohta
Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: If possible, it would be Good if APNIC could also make contact with the rightful owners of the following additional 3 Japanese blocks, Because whois contact information is, seemingly by acquisition and relocation, obsolete, it should be impossible for APNIC to do so.

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-17 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <9567b241-12ce-4728-8e73-ff7143907...@apnic.net>, Vivek Nigam wrote: >APNIC has contacted the custodians of 139.44.0.0/16 and 168.198.0.0/16 and >brought this matter to their attention. Excellent. Thank you. If possible, it would be Good if APNIC could also make contact with the ri

Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-17 Thread Vivek Nigam
Hi Ronald, APNIC has contacted the custodians of 139.44.0.0/16 and 168.198.0.0/16 and brought this matter to their attention. Regards, Vivek Member Services Manager, APNIC From: Ronald F. Guilmette Date: Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:30 PM Subject: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-09 Thread Florian Brandstetter via NANOG
Hello Ronald, if you'd open the traceroute you just sent you'd see that the target is route looping and not actually used by their alleged customer? Since the loop is actually between the FDC aggregation router and Cogent's backbone router. Also, what would the target IP have been in this case,

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Mel Beckman wrote: >I’m just saying that I randomly checked one fact and it doesn’t meet >the level of positive certainty that you asserted. It’s thus reasonable >to ask you to double check your research all around. I’m not willing >to be your unpaid copy editor, so let me know when

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
government owned building. --srs From: NANOG on behalf of Mel Beckman Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 5:30 AM To: Ronald F. Guilmette Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Ron, I’m just saying

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Mel Beckman
Ron, I’m just saying that I randomly checked one fact and it doesn’t meet the level of positive certainty that you asserted. It’s thus reasonable to ask you to double check your research all around. I’m not willing to be your unpaid copy editor, so let me know when you’ve done a double check an

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <67b3e0d5-7d09-42e2-a753-eb6c93859...@getmailspring.com>, Florian Brandstetter wrote: >if you'd open the traceroute you just sent you'd see that the target >is route looping and not actually used by their alleged customer? Yea. So? How is that relevant to my fundamental narrative?

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <23540.1567802...@segfault.tristatelogic.com>, I wrote: >Is anyone disputing that 168.198.0.0/16 belongs to the Australian >national government, or that AS174, Cogent was, until quite recently, >routing that down to their pals at FDCServers who then were routing >it down to their custom

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <5233b9b9-1bff-425d-bb8f-e3853703b...@beckman.org>, Mel Beckman wrote: >A quick check of one of your facts produces unexpected results, so you might >want to perform more research. According the APNIC, 139.44.0.0/16 does not >“belong unambiguously to the Port Authority of Melbourne”.

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 8:13 AM Neo Soon Keat wrote: > Sorry, re-sending to include the list. > > Looking at the history of the prefix, it does look like it did belong to > the now-defunct Port of Melbourne Authority, with the matching e-mail > address. That particular organization, however, no lo

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Neo Soon Keat
Sorry, re-sending to include the list. Looking at the history of the prefix, it does look like it did belong to the now-defunct Port of Melbourne Authority, with the matching e-mail address. That particular organization, however, no longer exists, having been absorbed into the Port of Melbourne

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Ben Cannon
Important realization: Things don’t always work there like they work here (wherever “here” is for you). -Ben > On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:57 AM, Carlos Friaças via NANOG wrote: > > > Hi, > > (Also never been in Australia, unfortunately...) > > Netname is "PMANET": > ...isn't it OK to assume it co

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Carlos Friaças via NANOG
Hi, (Also never been in Australia, unfortunately...) Netname is "PMANET": ...isn't it OK to assume it could stand for "Port of Melbourne Authority Network"? * pma.vic.gov.au is not operational (i wonder what can be found with passive dns) * vic.gov.au is still operational. Quick googling

Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Mel Beckman
A quick check of one of your facts produces unexpected results, so you might want to perform more research. According the APNIC, 139.44.0.0/16 does not “belong unambiguously to the Port Authority of Melbourne”. It belongs to an individual, with an office address at a building called “Port Autho

Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?

2019-09-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
Few of you here probably know about this, but nearly a week ago now an article appeared in South Africa's largest and most popular online tech publication, MyBroadband.co.za. It detailed many, but certainly not all of the results of my multi-month investigation of a massive and ongoing fraud invol