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To: Dave Temkin
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Subject: Re: Overall Netflix bandwidth usage numbers on a network?
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Dave Temkin wrote the following on 12/11/2011 6:29 PM:
Feel free to contact peering@netflixcom - we
From: Blake Hudson [mailto:bl...@ispn.net]
>
> Yeah, that's an interesting one. We currently utilize netflow for this,
> but you also need to consider that netflix streaming is just port 80
> www traffic. Because netflix uses CDNs, its difficult to pin down the
> traffic to specific hosts in t
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>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: Overall Netflix bandwidth usage numbers on a network?
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> From: Blake Hudson [mailto:bl...@ispn.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 8:11 AM
> To: Dave Temkin
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Overall Netflix bandwidth usage numbers on a network?
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> Requests to this address appear to go
Requests to this address appear to go unanswered?
Dave Temkin wrote the following on 12/11/2011 6:29 PM:
Feel free to contact peering@netflixcom - we're happy to provide
you with delivery statistics for traffic terminating on your network.
Regards,
-Dave Temkin
Netflix
On 12/7/11 8:57 AM, Bla
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Jason Lixfeld wrote:
>
> On 2011-12-12, at 4:22 PM, Simon Lockhart wrote:
>
>> I guess most (i.e. those
>> which aren't Akamai) are more concerned with making money than with
>> delivering
>> a good service to the end user.
>
> Really? I always thought that high
On Dec 12, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Jason Lixfeld wrote:
> On 2011-12-12, at 4:22 PM, Simon Lockhart wrote:
>
>> I guess most (i.e. those
>> which aren't Akamai) are more concerned with making money than with
>> delivering
>> a good service to the end user.
>
> Really? I always thought that higher pr
On 2011-12-12, at 4:22 PM, Simon Lockhart wrote:
> I guess most (i.e. those
> which aren't Akamai) are more concerned with making money than with delivering
> a good service to the end user.
Really? I always thought that higher profits and buying transit were mutually
exclusive relative to hi
On Mon Dec 12, 2011 at 10:11:54PM +0100, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:
> Akamai will peer with you anywhere and i doubt LLNW will give you trouble.
LLNW are restictive on peering.
> L3, well, they run a superb network and even more superb pricing, so why
> would they peer with anyone ;)
And as I u
Hi!
I believe Akamai,
LLNW, & L3 are the only companies that stream movies for Netflix. Peer with
the CDNs to save your transit.
That would be good if more than one of those CDNs peered openly.
So what one doesnt?
Akamai will peer with you anywhere and i doubt LLNW will give you trouble.
On Mon Dec 12, 2011 at 03:10:20PM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> I believe Akamai,
> LLNW, & L3 are the only companies that stream movies for Netflix. Peer with
> the CDNs to save your transit.
That would be good if more than one of those CDNs peered openly.
Simon
On Dec 12, 2011, at 12:18 AM, Joel jaeggli wrote:
> On 12/11/11 19:49 , Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>>> Simple, keep traffic off paid ip transit circuits
>>>
>> (I think joel's point was: "peer with amazon, done-and-done")
>
> also prob
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Simple, keep traffic off paid ip transit circuits
(I think joel's point was: "peer with amazon, done-and-done")
DirectConnect seems to be a good way to get a dedicated 1G or 10G link
On 12/12/2011, at 4:18 PM, Joel jaeggli wrote:
> also probably your relationships to akamai and level3
Probably want to add Limelight to that list as well (do Netflix even use Akamai
these days?)
-Shaun
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On 12/11/11 19:49 , Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> Simple, keep traffic off paid ip transit circuits
>>
> (I think joel's point was: "peer with amazon, done-and-done")
also probably your relationships to akamai and level3
>> Faisal
>>
>
Thanks for the explanation...did not consider that before...will investigate..,
any tips that can be shared will be welcome.
:)
Faisal
On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:49 PM, Christopher Morrow
wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> Simple, keep traffic off paid ip transit
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Simple, keep traffic off paid ip transit circuits
>
(I think joel's point was: "peer with amazon, done-and-done")
> Faisal
>
> On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>
>> Netflix uses CDNs for content delivery and the platf
Simple, keep traffic off paid ip transit circuits
Faisal
On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> Netflix uses CDNs for content delivery and the platform runs in EC2. What
> would peering with them achieve?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 11, 2011, at 18:06, Faisal Imtiaz
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:21:49 PST, Joel Jaeggli said:
> Netflix uses CDNs for content delivery and the platform runs in EC2. What
> would peering with them achieve?
I suspect Faisal's *real* question is "Who at Netflix do I talk to in order to
discuss
mutually beneficial traffic engineering?"
pg
Netflix uses CDNs for content delivery and the platform runs in EC2. What would
peering with them achieve?
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 11, 2011, at 18:06, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Which leads to a question to be asked...
>
> Is netflix willing to peer directly with ISP / NSP's ?
>
> Regards.
>
Which leads to a question to be asked...
Is netflix willing to peer directly with ISP / NSP's ?
Regards.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet& Telecom
On 12/11/2011 7:29 PM, Dave Temkin wrote:
Feel free to contact peering@netflixcom - we're happy to provide
you with delivery statistics for traffic
Feel free to contact peering@netflixcom - we're happy to provide you with delivery statistics for
traffic terminating on your network.
Regards,
-Dave Temkin
Netflix
On 12/7/11 8:57 AM, Blake Hudson wrote:
Yeah, that's an interesting one. We currently utilize netflow for this, but you also need
Yeah, that's an interesting one. We currently utilize netflow for this,
but you also need to consider that netflix streaming is just port 80 www
traffic. Because netflix uses CDNs, its difficult to pin down the
traffic to specific hosts in the CDN and say that this traffic was
netflix, while th
Also checkout Adrian Cockcroft presentations on their architecture which
describes how they use aws and CDns etc
Martin
On Saturday, 3 December 2011, Jonathan Towne wrote:
> Wow.. not sure how I missed that option. Exactly why I posted before
dumping
> a bunch of time into a bottomless bucket!
Wow.. not sure how I missed that option. Exactly why I posted before dumping
a bunch of time into a bottomless bucket!
Thanks.. :)
-- Jonathan Towne
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 12:56:34AM +, Andrew Mulholland scribbled:
# Surely this is what Netflow is for.
#
#
# no need to re-invent the whe
Surely this is what Netflow is for.
no need to re-invent the wheel.
Andrew
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Jonathan Towne wrote:
> Been lurking for a while and posed a question to a few folks without much
> response, figured someone here might've done something like this already.
>
> So, b
Been lurking for a while and posed a question to a few folks without much
response, figured someone here might've done something like this already.
So, before I go about building wheels that already exist:
I'm interested in doing a bit of a passive survey of bandwidth usage on
my network (smallis
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