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From: Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.com
To: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
Cc: Rodrigo 1telecom rodr...@1telecom.com.br, NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 4:24:18 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
Point
, February 7, 2015 4:24:18 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
Point taken on the specs.. Still doesn't excuse poor customer service and tech
support. I never expect to be told that no refund will be issued when I am
dissatisfied with the product. A request for RMA because something is not
working
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
Yes can do long distances without need to amplifier site (train tracks for
example) but you need to make sure ground is stable and if using track bed of
train track that the ballast is good and stable else ground tremors affect the
signal quality.
Colin
Hi Mike
I can recommend a couple of vendors that provide cost effective solutions.
Ekinops Packetlight.
On Saturday, February 7, 2015, Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net wrote:
I know there are various Asian vendors for low cost (less than $500) muxes
to throw 16 or however many colors onto a
For clarification, I do know that the mainstream vendors can take standard
wavelengths and can do long distances, but that's where the arms and legs come
in.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Mike Hammett
Mike,
I just replaced a bunch of FiberStore WDM passive muxes with OSI Hardware
equipment. The FiberStore gear was a huge disappointment (excessive loss, poor
technical support, refusal to issue refund without threatening legal action,
etc.). I have had good results from the OSI equipment
would be good for mike to define 'long distances' here, is it:
2km
30km
300km
3000km
Probably the 30-60k range is what you mean by 'long distances' but...
clarity might help.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.com wrote:
Mike,
I just replaced a bunch of
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Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
would be good for mike to define 'long distances' here, is it:
2km
30km
300km
3000km
Probably the 30-60k range is what you mean by 'long distances' but...
clarity might help
-il.com
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From: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
To: Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.com
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
would be good for mike to define 'long distances' here
Hammett na...@ics-il.net
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:17:35 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
Are you looking for an active or passive solution?
On Feb 07, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net wrote:
One particular route I'm looking
Hi kenneth... which the distance do you have from side A to side B when you
using passive solutions from fiberstore( mux and demux)?
I buy this mux and demux(4 channels single fiber) and only make a test about
60km( mux side A and demux on side B) with sfp+10gb for 80km... ( only see ddm
on my
Hi Enviado,
I cannot recommend FiberStore as I had a bad experience with them. I needed to
cover only 3km from A to B side. When using 10km optics, I saw a loss of over 5db
with their passive mux inserted into the path which created a total loss of over
-20db which is outside of the
.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.com
To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:17:35 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
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Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
would be good for mike to define 'long distances' here, is it:
2km
30km
300km
3000km
Probably the 30-60k range is what you mean by 'long distances' but...
clarity might help.
On Sat, Feb 7
Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
To: Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.com
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
would be good for mike to define
On 7/Feb/15 21:17, Phil Bedard wrote:
Is this for 10G? I'm kind of assuming 10G. What kind of equipment is
being plugged into these? 300km is way beyond what you'll get with a
passive solution, it's definitely in the long-haul terrtory. If you are
launching out of a router the best
...@ics-il.net, NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 1:17:48 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
Is this for 10G? I'm kind of assuming 10G. What kind of equipment is
being plugged into these? 300km is way beyond what you'll get with a
passive solution, it's definitely
Message -
From: Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 1:26:28 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
On 7/Feb/15 21:17, Phil Bedard wrote:
Is this for 10G? I'm kind of assuming 10G. What kind of equipment is
being plugged into these? 300km
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From: Phil Bedard bedard.p...@gmail.com
To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net, NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 1:17:48 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
Is this for 10G? I'm kind of assuming 10G. What kind of equipment is
being plugged into these? 300km is way beyond what
What others vendors do you using? Here in Brazil only PADTEC have this passive
solution... Some days ago Digitel contact me to show your multiplex solution...
Is a active solution...
We import this from fiberstore, but i don't know others vendors to buy 10G sfp+
cwdm and this mux/demux...
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From: Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.com
To: Rodrigo 1telecom rodr...@1telecom.com.br
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 2:04:10 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
Hi Enviado,
I cannot recommend FiberStore as I had a bad experience with them. I
Internet Telecom
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From: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net
To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 2:32:14 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
Multiple 10G, yes. I'll reach out to the vendors mentioned to see how they
line up, but it looks like I need
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Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 3:24:43 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
What others vendors do you using? Here in Brazil only PADTEC have this
passive solution... Some days ago Digitel contact me to show your multiplex
solution... Is a active solution...
We
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: Rodrigo 1telecom rodr...@1telecom.com.br
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 2:44:19 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
If you pay close
kenneth.mc...@me.com
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Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 3:24:43 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
What others vendors do you using? Here in Brazil only PADTEC have this
passive solution... Some days ago Digitel contact me to show your multiplex
solution... Is a active
@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 3:49:16 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
That's why I engage the engineering resources on their end to make sure the
chosen candidate will support the use case. I have now performed an A/B
comparison and the FiberStore gear is inferior. Excessive
That's why I engage the engineering resources on their end to make sure the
chosen candidate will support the use case. I have now performed an A/B
comparison and the FiberStore gear is inferior. Excessive loss on the mux
and optics.
Just for comparison sake, I should say that we've bought
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From: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
To: Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.com
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
would be good for mike to define 'long distances' here, is it:
2km
30km
300km
3000km
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
From: Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.com
To: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
Cc: Rodrigo 1telecom rodr...@1telecom.com.br, NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 3:49:16 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
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From: Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.com
To: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
Cc: Rodrigo 1telecom rodr...@1telecom.com.br, NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 4:24:18 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
Point taken on the specs.. Still
, February 7, 2015 4:01:29 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
That's true up to a point. Specs are only as good as the entity providing the
data. I can tell you a few stories about specs and some MAJOR fails by a major
network equipment manufacturer failing to meet advertised specs. When you
, 2015 4:01:29 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
That's true up to a point. Specs are only as good as the entity providing the
data. I can tell you a few stories about specs and some MAJOR fails by a
major network equipment manufacturer failing to meet advertised specs. When
you engage
...@1telecom.com.br, NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 4:24:18 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
Point taken on the specs.. Still doesn't excuse poor customer service and tech
support. I never expect to be told that no refund will be issued when I am
dissatisfied
Mike,
Look into SolidOptics. www.Solidoptics.com
Great Mux and Add-drops, plus fantastic optics. We are not optical engineers so
when we have had questions about new links their team has always been open
about what will and what won't work based on what we are trying to accomplish.
We are
in this business...
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet Telecom
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From: Simon Lockhart si...@slimey.org
To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 4:06:46 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
That's why I engage the engineering resources on their end to make
morrowc.li...@gmail.com
To: Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.com
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
would be good for mike to define 'long distances' here, is it:
2km
30km
300km
3000km
Probably the 30-60k range is what you
...@me.com
To: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
Cc: Rodrigo 1telecom rodr...@1telecom.com.br, NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 4:01:29 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
That's true up to a point. Specs are only as good as the entity providing the
data. I can tell you a few
@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 4:01:29 PM
Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear
That's true up to a point. Specs are only as good as the entity providing the
data. I can tell you a few stories about specs and some MAJOR fails by a
major network equipment manufacturer failing to meet
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