Re: Curiosity about AS3356 L3/CenturyLink network resiliency (in general)

2018-05-23 Thread Tom Hill
On 19/05/18 21:51, Ben Cannon wrote: > Isn’t that the ASR9010? (And before that 7609?) I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not. -- Tom

BGP Battleships

2018-05-23 Thread Scott Weeks
I saw the below on SWINOG and thought it might add some fun in the middle of all this General Data Protection Regulation conversation. :) scott --- Begin forwarded message: From: Gregor Riepl To: swi...@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] BGP Battleships Date: Tue, 22 May

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Dan Hollis
On Tue, 22 May 2018, Jimmy Hess wrote: Perhaps it's time that some would consider new RBLs and Blackhole feeds based on : Domains with deliberately unavailable WHOIS data. How about the ones with broken contact data - deliberately or not? A whois blacklist sounds good to me. DNS WBL?

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread bzs
In a nutshell this is a tariff war. They should have pursued their ideas about data privacy etc in international, multilateral venues. The EU is only about 10% of the world's population and perhaps 20% of the world's GDP. What does, for example, China or India think about all this? Is the EU

Re: Juniper BGP Convergence Time

2018-05-23 Thread Adam Kajtar
Hello again: I've tried using the default route, adjusting bgp timers, and mutlipath. Unfortunately, these changes haven't helped much. Juniper support hasn't been very helpful also. Although, I think I might have found the solution.

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread bzs
On May 23, 2018 at 07:45 h...@efes.iucc.ac.il (Hank Nussbacher) wrote: > ...Now there is GDPR vs Theworld. Or vice-versa. Sincerely, TheWorld.com. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die| b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Owen DeLong
> On May 23, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Anne P. Mitchell Esq. > wrote: > > > >> On May 23, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Daniel Brisson wrote: >> >>> Also, don't forget the private right of action. Anyone can file anything >>> in the U.S. courts... you may get it

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread John Levine
No, but in the absence of a law that specifically bars the courts from doing so the will under current reciprocal treaty arrangements. No, really, what treaties? I understand treaties about domesticating a tort judgement but this isn't a tort, this is a regulation. R's, John PS: can

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Owen DeLong
How is it false? If you don’t do business in the EU or with EU persons, then you are not included in the class of organizations which GDPR says are subject to GDPR. Owen > On May 23, 2018, at 4:36 PM, K. Scott Helms wrote: > > Owen, > > That's false, please don't

Re: Geolocation issue with a twist

2018-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Well that's lovely.., Our site is temporarily unavailable Please contact us at contact...@eurekapi.com - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Clay Stewart"

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
If you don't have operations in the EU, you can not so politely tell the EU to piss off. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Matthew Kaufman" To:

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread K. Scott Helms
Sadly this isn't true. While I doubt the EU regulators are going to come head hunting for companies any time soon they do have mechanisms in place to sanction companies who don't do business in the EU and the scope is clearly intended to reach where ever the data of EU natural persons is being

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
*shrugs* Me hurting the EU's feelings is rather low on the list of things I care about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "K. Scott Helms" To:

Re: Geolocation issue with a twist

2018-05-23 Thread Clay Stewart
https://scsbroadband.com/geolocation/ Here is snapshot of Geolocation issue showing a Spanish ISP registered with a GeoLocation database our IP block, pointed to the correct location. But customers are getting railroaded with spam and failing apps (due to Spain). On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 4:50 PM,

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread K. Scott Helms
Of course not, but do you really want to be sued? Even if the US courts decline to accept GDPR cases, which is not at all a given since we have a long history of bilateral enforcement, it costs money to deal with and I don't want to worry that I'm going to fly one day to a country that will

Re: Curiosity about AS3356 L3/CenturyLink network resiliency (in general)

2018-05-23 Thread Tom Hill
On 21/05/18 17:10, Large Hadron Collider wrote: > I would go as far as to say that Tier 1 is a derogatory designation, but > I have a beef with Cogent because they're expecting otherwise Tier 1 > IPv6 ISP Hurricane Electric to bow to the altar of Cogent. Owen, is dat yew?! -- Tom

VPN Filter: botnet of routers

2018-05-23 Thread Scott Weeks
Kaboom! https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-fbi-seizes-control-of-russian-botnet "FBI agents armed with a court order have seized control of a key server in the Kremlin’s global botnet of 500,000 hacked routers..." "The FBI counter-operation goes after “VPN Filter,” a piece of

Re: Curiosity about AS3356 L3/CenturyLink network resiliency (in general)

2018-05-23 Thread Tom Hill
On 18/05/18 14:55, Stephen Satchell wrote: > What happened when you sent out your last RPQ to the vendors with these > requirements? Why bother? There are so few products, with so few vendors, and their list prices & discount levels are easily researchable in less than a day. If you thought

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Dan Hollis
On Wed, 23 May 2018, Owen DeLong wrote: On May 23, 2018, at 08:53, John Levine wrote: If they try to sue in, say, US courts, the US court will ask them to explain why a US court should try a suit under foreign law. There is a very short list of reasons to do that, and this

How to leak aggregate/generated routes into another VRF

2018-05-23 Thread Joe Yabuki
Hey all, Is there a method of leaking aggregate/generated routes to other VRFs so that the next-hop is modified to actually point to table where the agg/gen routes where created ? One way to do this, is to create a Null0 route and redistribute it into the BGP VRF process, but I would like to

IX's and DC's in Denver

2018-05-23 Thread Emily Scarlett
Hey all, We're currently looking at expanding our presence in H5 in Denver, one question on our mind is what our options are for IX connectivity around the area, and if anyone has any experience dealing with them. Any info is useful, thanks! -- ~ Em

Re: How to leak aggregate/generated routes into another VRF

2018-05-23 Thread lobna gouda
Juniper allows you to use next-hop table. Yet this next-hop as to be statically added in the Forwarding table first Brgds, LG From: NANOG on behalf of Joe Yabuki Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:01 AM To:

Re: IX's and DC's in Denver

2018-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
https://ix-denver.org/ https://peeringdb.com/advanced_search?city=Denver=ix - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Emily Scarlett" To: nanog@nanog.org

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Roger Marquis
Dan Hollis wrote: How about the ones with broken contact data - deliberately or not? A whois blacklist sounds good to me. DNS WBL? Many sites are already doing this locally. It's just a matter of time before Spamhaus or an up-and-coming entity has an RBL for it. The data is perhaps not

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Anne P. Mitchell Esq.
> On May 23, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Daniel Brisson wrote: > >> Also, don't forget the private right of action. Anyone can file anything in >> the U.S. courts... you may get it dismissed (although then again you may >> not) but either way, it's going to be time and money out

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Owen DeLong
> On May 23, 2018, at 08:53, John Levine wrote: > > In article > you > write: >> I asked one of the EU regulators at RSA how they intended to enforce GDPR >> violations on businesses that don't operate in

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Anne P. Mitchell Esq.
> On May 23, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > > >> On May 23, 2018, at 08:53, John Levine wrote: >> >> In article >> you >> write: >>> I asked one of the EU regulators at RSA how

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 05/23/2018 09:09 AM, Anne P. Mitchell Esq. wrote: Also, don't forget the private right of action. Anyone can file anything in the U.S. courts... you may get it dismissed (although then again you may not) but either way, it's going to be time and money out of your pocket fighting it. MUCH

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Daniel Brisson
On 5/23/18, 12:10 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Anne P. Mitchell Esq." wrote: > On May 23, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > > >> On May 23, 2018, at 08:53, John Levine

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >I asked one of the EU regulators at RSA how they intended to enforce GDPR >violations on businesses that don't operate in their jurisdiction and >without hesitation he told me they'd use civil courts to

Re: Geolocation issue with a twist

2018-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Often people have issues with their IP blocks being geolocated incorrectly. Sometimes it's an error on the database or website's behalf, while other times it's due to a transfer. There used to be a wiki that had a few websites to go to solve these issues, but that site has been gone for years

Re: Geolocation issue with a twist

2018-05-23 Thread Clay Stewart
Yes, I can't find a way to contact the Geolocation eurkapi to get this removed, and I have to move two multi-million dollar businesses to this subnet like last month but afraid of impacts on their operations from email servers, web servers, and VOIP. And of course, Pandora for music to

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Owen DeLong
Not really. If you don’t offer services to EU persons, then you are right. However, due to treaties signed by the US and other countries, many places outside the EU are subject to GDPR overreach. Owen > On May 23, 2018, at 05:36, Mike Hammett wrote: > > If you don't have

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread K. Scott Helms
Anne, Yep, if you're doing a decent job around securing data then you don't have much to be worried about on that side of things. The problem for most companies is that GDPR isn't really a security law, it's a privacy law (and set of regulations). That's where it's hard because there are a

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread K. Scott Helms
Yeah, that's not accurate. US organizations sue EU organizations in US courts (and vice versus) on a regular basis but have EU courts collect the damages. Congress can carve out an exemption, but I haven't heard of an effort in that direction getting started yet. In the absence of a legislative

Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news

2018-05-23 Thread Anne P. Mitchell Esq.
> On May 23, 2018, at 11:05 AM, K. Scott Helms wrote: > > Yep, if you're doing a decent job around securing data then you don't have > much to be worried about on that side of things. The problem for most > companies is that GDPR isn't really a security law, it's a