Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-15 Thread Tom Beecher
Marty knows a thing or two about the history and current state of affairs in this world :) Pretty much all of the major LECs have set the goal of full copper retirement. But that is a long way away. On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 8:58 PM Shane Ronan wrote: > I think you'd be very surprised if

Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* We're just a CLEC in Frontier space, so they do the heavy lifting. We just need to interface the open-ended 100-pair cables Frontier gives us with our Occam\Calix gear. Given the "thoroughness" of the Frontier testing and troubleshooting process, we've taken up testing the customer

FYI - ARIN submission in response to FCC 22-90 on Secure Internet Routing

2022-04-15 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - As noted earlier, the FCC is in the midst of a consultation right now regarding vulnerabilities threatening the security and integrity of the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP). Please note that ARIN did file comments on this docket, and they may found online here in our government

Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
The problem with the Telect-style is that ever time we need to test a given pair, we have to pull it off, it ends up breaking, we test, then re-wrap it back on, losing an inch or so each time. For problem loops, this takes a sizable amount of wire out of one pair in the 25-pair bundle, then

Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-15 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I always found the spades (?) of the 66 block to be convenient to clip a > test set (with an angled bed of nails) onto. I've also used slip on > jack more than a few times, especially for testing. E.g. > I agree that 66 blocks were always simpler for testing and troubleshooting, but I

Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-15 Thread nanog
When I ran the largest (legacy) dialup ISP in Phoenix in the late 90's (2000+ POTS lines over a couple sites), we ordered huge frames of 66 blocks... like someone else said better for troubleshooting because you could pull the bridge clips to test each side and/or troubleshooting better (or

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

2022-04-15 Thread Routing Table Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Global IPv4 Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to

Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-15 Thread bzs
Gratuitous anecdote: When we moved into 1330 Beacon Street, Brookline, MA (the SS Pierce Building, 19th c) the phone closet had knob & bolt copper termination blocks. At some point the telco, then New England Telephone, came to replace them with 66 blocks. As they worked I joked that they

Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-15 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 8:57 PM Shane Ronan wrote: > I think you'd be very surprised if you walked into the central offices of > MANY of the large LECs. > > The majority of the wire frames are gone, replaced with fiber, even where > the service is delivered as copper to the end user, it's