Re: 400G forwarding - how does it work?

2022-08-10 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 at 06:48, wrote: > How do you propose to fairly distribute market data feeds to the market if > not multicast? I expected your aggressive support for small packets was for fintech. An anecdote: one of the largest exchanges in the world used MX for multicast replication,

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Jorge Amodio
Recommended reading … https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/mckinsey-digital/our-insights/iot-value-set-to-accelerate-through-2030-where-and-how-to-capture-it -Jorge

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Alexander Lyamin via NANOG
nice one. "There is no prophet in his own motherland" On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 6:21 AM Fred Baker wrote: > > > > On Aug 9, 2022, at 8:06 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: > > > > Robert Metcalfe, InfoWorld columnist and the inventor of Ethernet, also > in 1995: > > “I predict the Internet will soon go

Peering with Google and Microsoft

2022-08-10 Thread Oskar Borgqvist
Hi Nanog We have tried to get peering with Google but only get answers that they are making their peering system better. I have received this answer for over 1 year. The reason why we needed peering to Google is that they do not send out exact prefixes over IXP RS, which means that our traffic

Re: Peering with Google and Microsoft

2022-08-10 Thread Siyuan Miao
For Microsoft Peering you might need to create an Azure account. You can find the how-to document below: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/internet-peering/howto-exchange-portal On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 1:39 PM Oskar Borgqvist wrote: > Hi Nanog > > We have tried to get peering with Google

Sflow/netflow/ipfix open source security projects

2022-08-10 Thread Drew Weaver
Hello, I am interested in getting involved with an open source project in my spare time. I thought that it may be useful to contribute to an open source project that uses flow data to check for lateral movement inside of networks and also to check for known bads in remote connections. This

RE: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG
Hello Saku I do not share that view: 1) Thread uses 6LoWPAN so nodes are effectively IPv6 even though it doesn’t show in the air. 2) Wi-Sun is not Thread and it is already deployed by millions. 3) even LoRa (1.1.1) is going IPv6, using SCHC. Regards, Pascal > -Original Message- >

Re: Peering with Google and Microsoft

2022-08-10 Thread Marco Paesani
Hi Oskar, for Google https://peering.google.com/#/options/peering Regards, - Marco Paesani Skype: mpaesani Mobile: +39 348 6019349 Success depends on the right choice ! Email: ma...@paesani.it Il giorno mer 10 ago 2022 alle ore 13:47 Siyuan Miao ha scritto: > For Microsoft Peering

Re: Frontier Dark Fiber

2022-08-10 Thread Mike
Yes; There was absolutely some outright fraud here. Fraud, that even when pointed out exactly to the FCC staffers handling this, was simply ignored. This fraud claims in the rural parts of mendocino county, where I have operated for 20 years, claims there is 'competitive fiber' within 500' of

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Tom Beecher
It always amazes me how an industry that has , since its inception, been constantly solving new problems to make things work, always finds a way to assume the next problem will be unsolvable. On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 10:23 PM Christopher Wolff wrote: > Hi folks, > > Has anyone proposed that the

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 at 12:48, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: Hey, > I do not share that view: I'm not sure how you read my view. I was not attempting to communicate anything negative of IPv6. What I attempted to communicate - near future looks to improve IOT security posture significantly,

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG
> > because our lizard brains have a hard time comprehending exponential > growth > Don't forget how we pontificate on how well we understand infinity. Cheers, Etienne On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 6:09 PM Chris Wright < chris.wri...@commnetbroadband.com> wrote: > That’s just humans in general, and

Re: 400G forwarding - how does it work?

2022-08-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Sharada’s answers: a) Yes, the run-to-completion model of Trio is superior to FP5/Nokia model when it comes to flexible processing engines. In Trio, the same engines can do either ingress or egress processing. Traditionally, there is more processing on ingress than on egress. When that

Re: Sflow/netflow/ipfix open source security projects

2022-08-10 Thread Peter Phaal
Sounds like an interesting project. You might want to take a look at sflowtool to get started. The following article shows how to use sflowtool to decode sFlow datagrams and includes a simple Python script matching IP addresses against a known threat database.

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Randy Bush
new at eleven

RE: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Chris Wright
That’s just humans in general, and it certainly isn’t limited to our outlook on the future of the internet. Big advancements will always take us by surprise because our lizard brains have a hard time comprehending exponential growth. Someone please stop me here before I get on my Battery-EV

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Alexander Lyamin via NANOG
It's not devices. It's software and what's worse protocol specifications that are implemented in this software. And we still didn't get the memo in 2022. Some colleagues think that having builtin 5x Amplification in protocols freshly out just this year "is OK". Cyberhippies On Wed,

Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond...

2022-08-10 Thread Billy Croan
On Thu, Aug 4, 2022, 15:53 Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Having at least a part of one foot in the global time and frequency > community I'd say that it seems that the consensus is building toward > eliminating leap seconds. > > There was a vote planned in 2012

Re: Sflow/netflow/ipfix open source security projects

2022-08-10 Thread Dave
Argus and the Argus Clients have quite a bit to offer in this line and they are open source. Check qosient.com for the GitHub information. Dave > On Aug 10, 2022, at 7:37 AM, Peter Phaal wrote: > > Sounds like an interesting project. You might want to take a look at > sflowtool to get

Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond...

2022-08-10 Thread John R. Levine
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Billy Croan wrote: I think a much better answer to the nuisance of leap seconds (their uncertainty), instead of dropping them all together, MIGHT be let them build up for a century and deal with it every hundred years or every thousand. Maybe every decade? Sheesh. In

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Christopher Wolff
Hi NANOG; I appreciate all the thoughtful replies and I apologize for vague posting when I should be sleeping. Let me paint a little more context and hopefully this will help inform the conversation. Use Case 1: Augmented Reality/Virtual Reality. It is stated that round trip latency must

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Ca By
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 3:30 PM Christopher Wolff wrote: > Hi NANOG; > > I appreciate all the thoughtful replies and I apologize for vague posting > when I should be sleeping. > > Let me paint a little more context and hopefully this will help inform the > conversation. > > Use Case 1:

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Doug Barton
On 8/9/22 10:40 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: Possibly interesting: This kind of idea came up w/in ICANN when they were first considering the idea of adding 1000+ new generic and internationalized TLDs. Will it cause a melt down? Money was allocated, studies and simulations were done, reports

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Mel Beckman
Christopher, What you’re really observing here is that today's technology does not yet enable these your chosen use cases. It may someday, but not today, not for any amount of money. 1990s modem technology didn’t enable streaming video either, but add 20 years of advancement, and today you can

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Aug 9, 2022, at 20:06 , Mel Beckman wrote: > > LOL! You’re not the first person to underestimate the resilience of the > Internet: > > “There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.” – Ken Olsen, > CEO of Digital Equipment Corporation (now defunct), 1977 Technically

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
Break, probably not… Require IPv6 eventually? Probably. Owen > On Aug 9, 2022, at 19:22 , Christopher Wolff wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Has anyone proposed that the adoption of billions of IoT devices will > ultimately ‘break’ the Internet? > > It’s not a rhetorical question I promise, just

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Jorge Amodio
Unless you are running in a very slow and resource constrained piece of hardware, most of the latency comes from the link layer, not from the protocol stack. If your concern is delay and disruption, check out DTN (Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking,) and Bundle Protocol, we have a WG in

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Aug 10, 2022, at 15:51 , Mel Beckman wrote: > > Christopher, > > What you’re really observing here is that today's technology does not yet > enable these your chosen use cases. It may someday, but not today, not for > any amount of money. 1990s modem technology didn’t enable streaming

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 3:29 PM Christopher Wolff wrote: > Use Case 1: Augmented Reality/Virtual Reality. It is stated that round trip > latency must be <4ms with 100mbit full duplex at the cell edge to prevent > nausea and dizziness while wearing goggles for a long term. Hi Christopher,

Re: IoT - The end of the internet

2022-08-10 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Aug 10, 2022, at 15:29 , Christopher Wolff wrote: > > Hi NANOG; > > I appreciate all the thoughtful replies and I apologize for vague posting > when I should be sleeping. > > Let me paint a little more context and hopefully this will help inform the > conversation. > > Use Case 1: