Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 3/11/21 2:28 PM, Jared Brown wrote: Out of interest, why does it take multiple weeks to edit a GEO IP entry? I have no idea /why/. I only know that it /is/. I /assume/ -- from a place of ignorance about the innards of the process -- that there is validation and manual approval. I also /a

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Jared Brown
Grant Taylor wrote: > The process takes multiple weeks. Out of interest, why does it take multiple weeks to edit a GEO IP entry? I wonder why Google even has this problem at all. If you've so much as looked at Google maps or used any app that uses location services then Google knows with a high

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 3/11/21 1:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: His email: Mar 8, 2021, 10:08 AM (3 days ago) The current date and time: 3:03 PM Thursday, March 11, 2021 (EST) The process takes multiple weeks. You do the math. My email with recommendations: 10:23 AM Thursday, March 11, 2021 (MST) The current date

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 3/11/21 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The lack of response to the problem from Google's team is the knowledge that we're working with. It may be the knowledge that /you/ are working with. /I/ am working with different knowledge. As stated in another reply, "I know / have witnessed multip

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Josh Luthman
>How do you know that the OP's problem hasn't been resolved? I asked him. He said "no". Do we have to debate the opinion of fixed or what no means? >Presuming the OP did leverage the suggestions that I provided, how can you say "no resolution" when it's been ~2 hours for a process that I indica

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Mike Hammett
o: "Nate Burke" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 3:36:43 AM Subject: Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv Google has its internal GeoIP team. But the data quality is not so good, but they don't wanna improve it for some reason. On Mon, Ma

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Josh Luthman
The lack of response to the problem from Google's team is the knowledge that we're working with. What more do you need to know? If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a duck. You don't need a DNA test. You're entitled to your opinion just as the rest o

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 3/11/21 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Based on how difficult it is to correct their data for them at no charge, I'm not sure he's entirely wrong in that statement. Difficult of doing something is not directly related to people's willingness / desire to do it. I can guarantee you that ther

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Tom Beecher
> > Based on how difficult it is to correct their data for them at no charge, > I'm not sure he's entirely wrong in that statement. > No, it's still wrong. Stating that Google's team 'doesn't want to improve things' , while also having zero knowledge of the reasons why the current issues are pres

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Based on how difficult it is to correct their data for them at no charge, I'm not sure he's entirely wrong in that statement. The fact that this thread exists, the latest of multiple, and has ended in no resolution to the problem once again is a testament to how Google responds to this problem. J

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 3/11/21 2:36 AM, William Guo wrote: but they don't wanna improve it for some reason. That is both unfair and wrong. I know for a fact that they do want their internal GeoIP to be as accurate as possible and that they do want to improve the inaccuracies if and when possible. I have perso

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread George Michaelson
Google honour https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8805 Which they also authored. A bunch of people are proposing a geofeed: RPSL marker to catalog how to find the feed. -G On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 7:38 PM William Guo wrote: > > Google has its internal GeoIP team. > > But the data quality is not so go

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-11 Thread William Guo
Google has its internal GeoIP team. But the data quality is not so good, but they don't wanna improve it for some reason. On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:00 AM Nate Burke wrote: > If you find out, let me know the secret sauce. I've had a ticket open > with YoutubeTV for 7 months and they can't get th

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-08 Thread Nate Burke
If you find out, let me know the secret sauce. I've had a ticket open with YoutubeTV for 7 months and they can't get the GeoIP fixed for one of my /21's that I've had for 20 years. Every reply on my ticket from Google is that the YoutubeTV service has major GeoIP issues, and they don't know h

Re: How to Fix IP GEO for google/youtube tv

2021-03-08 Thread Josh Luthman
https://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn/ Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 10:08 AM wrote: > Can anybody tell me how to fix my IP block for google websites and > youtube/tv because I am gettin