On 29/Jun/20 07:34, Owen DeLong wrote:
> Personally, I’d like to see the Netflix UI upgraded so that you could have
> the option of indexing all content (whether you could view it or not) and
> each time you clicked on something you weren’t allowed to view, it provided
> contact information f
On 27/Jun/20 00:39, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
>
>
> Amazon does better.
> YouTube does better.
> CBS does better.
> Hulu does better.
I wouldn't immediately compare all of those services to Netflix (or even
to each other), especially in a global context... but then this thread
could get
>
> I'd be down with that. Gamers will kill for even 1 nanosecond of lower
> "ping" :-).
>
Which has long made me chuckle. It's analogous to the golfers buying things
to "fix your slice!" or "get 10 more yards!" , when the true reason those
things happen is completely your swing. :)
On Sat, Jun 2
> There is nothing to stop Netflix from probing a mixture of IPv4 and IPv6
> during the same video playing session. Thus they could correlate the IPv6
> with the IPv4 which correlates with my CC which correlates with my address on
> file.
This only works in environments that have both IPv4 and
> On Jun 26, 2020, at 12:32 , Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
>
> On 6/26/20 12:08 PM, Brandon Jackson via NANOG wrote:
>> Correct they block HE.net's tunnel broker IP's because they practically are
>> at least for the sense of geo restrictions "VPN" that can be used to get
>> around said geo
On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 10:21:47 +0200, Mark Tinka said:
> Sadly, PlayStation still don't support IPv6. Hopefully, it comes with
> the PS5, although I see no reason why the PS4 and PS3 can't.
The PS/4 will in fact dhcpv6 at startup, and it will answer pings from both on
subnet and from elsewhere, and
On 28/Jun/20 19:37, Randy Bush wrote:
> think of the burden on the netflix customer support of HE's IPv6
> tunnels.
I wasn't aware about the HE situation and Netflix. I just learned about
this via this thread.
I understand why they are blocking those tunnels.
Mark.
> If you don't use some kind of device to connect to Netflix, if you
> have a reasonably modern TV that supports a native Netflix app as
> well as IPv6, you'd be good to go.
think of the burden on the netflix customer support of HE's IPv6
tunnels.
randy
On 26/Jun/20 20:15, colin johnston wrote:
> I don’t understand the rational to block specific ipv6 ranges, for example
> the UK ipv6 ranges and Africa ipv6 ranges are not blocked from testing done
> here with satellite comms and fibre backhaul uk comms
Do you have more information on this te
On 26/Jun/20 20:08, Brandon Jackson via NANOG wrote:
>
> As much as I hate it as I use said tunnel service it is understandable
> and I don't really blame Netflix for this, I blame the content
> producer/owners and the industry as a whole for mandating such
> restrictive practices.
Unless I mi
- On Jun 26, 2020, at 3:39 PM, nanog nanog@nanog.org wrote:
> On 6/26/20 1:42 PM, Sabri Berisha wrote:
>> I'm also sure that in the past, enough people have abused their
>> trust.
>
> I question the veracity of that statement.
I for one, have been guilty of that. Using VPN when I was travel
On 26/Jun/20 19:40, Sabri Berisha wrote:
> Don't hold your breath. It's most likely not related to the capabilities
> of the hardware, or even the kernel running on the platform.
I'm hoping a new device will bring with it renewed vigour :-).
I'm probably being ambitious. Overly.
> My guess
On 26/Jun/20 15:48, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I can’t speak for Netflix, but the reality is that there’s really no good
> way to “fix” CGNAT other than migrating to IPv6 and eliminating it.
>
> CGNAT by its nature combines multiple subscribers behind a single address.
>
> When you make subscribers in
On 26/Jun/20 19:25, Gary E. Miller wrote:
> Nope. Netflix blocks a lot of IPv6. Their blocking of HE has been
> discussed here many times.
Possibly, but I was merely referring to a compatible device.
Actual ability to get IPv6 transport toward Netflix is an entirely
different matter.
Mark.
On 6/26/20 1:42 PM, Sabri Berisha wrote:
Hi,
Hi,
This is the part that matters the most. I'm sure they're willing.
Let's agree to disagree on Netflix's willingness.
I'm also sure that in the past, enough people have abused their
trust.
I question the veracity of that statement.
Since t
On 6/26/20 3:21 PM, William Herrin wrote:
Hi Grant,
Hi,
Philosophically, Netflix agrees with you.
My interactions with and observations of Netflix make me want to
disagree with you.
Unfortunately they have to keep the studios happy or many of their
content contracts evaporate.
I fail
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 12:34 PM Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
> I want to agree, but I can't. Move up the stack. I pay my bill with a
> CC which has my billing address. I would even be willing to tell
> Netflix my home address directly.
>
> If they are willing to trust the CC information to ta
- On Jun 26, 2020, at 12:32 PM, nanog nanog@nanog.org wrote:
Hi,
> they should also be willing to trust the information for my service address.
This is the part that matters the most. I'm sure they're willing. I'm also
sure that in the past, enough people have abused their trust. Since they
On 6/26/20 12:08 PM, Brandon Jackson via NANOG wrote:
Correct they block HE.net's tunnel broker IP's because they practically
are at least for the sense of geo restrictions "VPN" that can be used to
get around said geo restriction.
I want to agree, but I can't. Move up the stack. I pay my bi
anog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 1:15:24 PM
Subject: Re: netflix proxy/unblocker false detection
> On Fri, 2020-06-26 at 12:45 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> I believe they're only blocking the HE v6 prefixes used for the VPN
>> service.
>
I don’t understand the
> On Fri, 2020-06-26 at 12:45 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> I believe they're only blocking the HE v6 prefixes used for the VPN
>> service.
>
I don’t understand the rational to block specific ipv6 ranges, for example the
UK ipv6 ranges and Africa ipv6 ranges are not blocked from testing done he
On Fri, 2020-06-26 at 12:45 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
> I believe they're only blocking the HE v6 prefixes used for the VPN
> service.
I don't use any VPN service of HE but I still get errors from Netflix
when my client chooses my HE tunnel prefix as it's source.
Or I guess I should say I was,
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Subject: Re: netflix proxy/unblocker false detection
Yo Mark!
On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 10:21:47 +0200
Mark Tinka wrote:
> If you don't use some kind of device to connect to Netflix, if you
> have a reasonably modern TV that supports a native Netflix app as
> w
- On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:21 AM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.com wrote:
Hi,
> Sadly, PlayStation still don't support IPv6. Hopefully, it comes with
> the PS5,
Don't hold your breath. It's most likely not related to the capabilities
of the hardware, or even the kernel running on the platform
Yo Mark!
On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 10:21:47 +0200
Mark Tinka wrote:
> If you don't use some kind of device to connect to Netflix, if you
> have a reasonably modern TV that supports a native Netflix app as
> well as IPv6, you'd be good to go.
Nope. Netflix blocks a lot of IPv6. Their blocking of HE
> On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
>
>
>
> On 25/Jun/20 16:45, Christian wrote:
>> wow. blaming support for IPv6 rather than using cgnat is a huge
>> stretch of credibility
>
> I have no idea what's going through Netflix's mind - it's all, as my
> American friend would say, co
I take his statement more as:
“If Netflix wasn’t doing IPv6, they’d be in more of a corner
to resolve CGNAT issues. Since they support IPv6, likely their
response to CGNAT issues is ``Press your provider to do IPv6,
it’s better.’’”
Likely, that is true. Support for
On Thu, 2020-06-25 at 17:32 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
> IPv6?
I realize this list is for network operators, but as a user, when your
ISP doesn't provide IPv6, this is not possible. Even with
tunnelbrokers like HE as they are blocked at Netflix. I have to put
rules in my firewall to force the c
On 26/Jun/20 03:12, Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote:
>
>
> Honestly, this is very confusing suggestion from Netflix support (i
> have native ipv6!).
> Looking to
> https://www.reddit.com/r/ipv6/comments/evv7r8/ipv6_and_netflix/ there
> is definitely some issues for other users too.
This seems to
On 25/Jun/20 18:08, Brandon Jackson via NANOG wrote:
> Actually it's a good thing that Netflix does support IPv6 for this. As
> any device using Netflix via IPv6 from your ISP would likely correctly
> be protected as not a VPN or proxy.
>
> The problem is the ISPs that deploy CGNAT without also
On 2020-06-26 01:32, Mike Hammett wrote:
IPv6?
-
By some reason my smart TV doesn't use IPv6 for Netflix, even everything
else in same network using it properly (even developed for ESP8266/ESP32
- IPv6 enabled apps).
And what is worse:
"Netflix Kimberly
The Network settings is to check
ne 25, 2020 2:44:43 PM
Subject: Re: netflix proxy/unblocker false detection
On 2020-06-25 19:20, Dave Temkin via NANOG wrote:
> If you or others are not receiving a satisfactory reply from us
> (Netflix) on this issue, please feel free to reach out directly and
> I'll make sure it
On 2020-06-25 19:20, Dave Temkin via NANOG wrote:
If you or others are not receiving a satisfactory reply from us
(Netflix) on this issue, please feel free to reach out directly and
I'll make sure it gets handled.
So far as we know, we handle CGNAT (and IPv6) appropriately. Sometimes
ranges get
If you or others are not receiving a satisfactory reply from us (Netflix)
on this issue, please feel free to reach out directly and I'll make sure it
gets handled.
So far as we know, we handle CGNAT (and IPv6) appropriately. Sometimes
ranges get reassigned and the data that we have gets stale - th
Actually it's a good thing that Netflix does support IPv6 for this. As any
device using Netflix via IPv6 from your ISP would likely correctly be
protected as not a VPN or proxy.
The problem is the ISPs that deploy CGNAT without also deploying IPv6 is
ridiculous. They are directly affected by the d
On 25/Jun/20 16:45, Christian wrote:
> wow. blaming support for IPv6 rather than using cgnat is a huge
> stretch of credibility
I have no idea what's going through Netflix's mind - it's all, as my
American friend would say, conjecturbation on my part.
CG-NAT isn't new, and if Netflix are still
wow. blaming support for IPv6 rather than using cgnat is a huge stretch
of credibility
On 25/06/2020 10:20, Mark Tinka wrote:
On 25/Jun/20 11:08, Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote:
Did anybody noticed that Netflix just became useless due to tons of
proxy/unblocker false detection on CGNAT ranges?
E
On 25/Jun/20 11:08, Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote:
> Did anybody noticed that Netflix just became useless due to tons of
> proxy/unblocker false detection on CGNAT ranges?
> Even my home network is dual stack, i am absolutely sure there is no
> proxy/vpn/whatsoever (but ipv4 part is over CGNAT) -
Try the contact information on this page to resolve it:
http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn/
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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